ILM is kinda sucking these days (boring and meta ignore not safe for work)

i don't follow all the rolling threads obv. but it's nice that they're there. i've stopped in the country thread to ask about something before.

honestly, i can't believe that there's a better forum than ilm as far musical breadth goes.

we could have had that discussion WITHOUT appealing to such a crass and blatant authority as a popular indie website,

you're making a lot of assumptions there buddy. i didn't appeal to anything, i simply linked to a column which i found interesting as a starting point for debate. and sorry if you're too cool for that "popular indie website" -- M@rk writes one of the best music columns on the web there, and even if you don't care for the "perfect songs" issue, you'd do yourself a favor to check out the 50+ chapters he's already written.

i've stopped in the country thread to ask about something before

I really like when people do this, especially when they're not one of the six or seven people who usually post on that thread (who tend to agree with each other too much anyway). Don't think anybody has ever been "shouted down" or lol'ed out or anything.

Yeah, Pitchfork has gotten really quite good, it's big enough that it can be alarmingly retarded and great at the same time. The poptimist column is consistently great and the piece about Blackout is one of my favourite pieces of music writing that managed to nail what I love about that record, make me look at things about it in a different way and just be a really great piece of writing in general. And I learned about cheveu there.

the opeth review on pitchfork was pretty good. except for the part where he dismissively sped through their back catalogue. and how may times do you really need to fucking mention mastodon in a review of a band that bears no relation to them whatsoever. i mean, come on.

Because Mastodon is the only metal band there is. The other is of course Pig Destroyer.

Yeah, Pitchfork has gotten really quite good, it's big enough that it can be alarmingly retarded and great at the same time. The poptimist column is consistently great and

this ^^

like any site, it has its high and low points. there are at least 5 or 6 writers there i think are very good, though, and check out their reviews regularly. not to mention the great columns (Resonant Frequency, Poptimist, sometimes Puritan Blister too) and the generally well-thought out interviews (PJ Harvey a couple months ago was a huge highlight). i'd be hard pressed to name a website with more consistent, high quality music writing in 2008.

of course, it has its low points as well. see lately: the Spiritualized and Black Angels reviews, both of which i think relied verrrrry heavily on sweeping generalizations (Spiritualized) and cliches about "drug music" (Black Angels).

It's like anywhere, you kinda need to get to know the site and you don't even need to try to ignore all the rubbish (Exclusive, The Gossip on tour with CSS!!!) because you don't even notice it. Yeah, Resonant Freq is quite good often too.

I miss Stylus, that one I liked.

Resonant Frequency is one of the best columns about music being written today.

Stylus was excellent. i got a shoutout in the year-end Bluffer's Guide too! thanks guys!

Exclusive, The Gossip on tour with CSS!!!

major LOLZ

does ott still write for pitchfork? that guy is a stinker. peeyoooo!

okay, it seems i only have myself to blame. i've been busy with other stuff and haven't been able to singlehandedly keep ilm entertaining. i apologize. for the lack of random picture threads. the lack of long spazzy thread titles. i'm sorry for everything.

ilm just needs a little more bite is all. a little more tang. some zazz. we'll be up and running in no time.

just a little too toothless these days. no i don't want flambe wars and all that no no no just a little more...grit. a good thread to sink my teeth into for fun and profit. that no age thread was pretty entertaining! considering i've barely heard the band. and that's the kind of thread i like. it can be "about" anything and go anywhere.

when ile would hold their semi-annual let's diss ilm fest on some metathread people would always say that they never came here cuz it was so "scary" and "intimidating". ha! they wouldn't say that now i'll bet. buncha pussycats on here. and that can be nice sometimes. (thinking back to when i first started hanging out here and blount and jess would rip someone to shreds and send them home crying without blinking an eye)

WTF? Stylus Magazine is no more???? (x-post)

way xpost "It's a big, booming, subjective point of pseudo-critical wankery, the enemy of theoretical innovation or fun."

see here, you're completely underrating pseudiness. Its what ILM was built on and a little bit of what makes this place special.

also scott is right. ILM just needs to pull its socks up a bit and stop pretending to be a snob while secretly dancing around the room.

ILM needs to bring back PEW

WTF? Stylus Magazine is no more???? (x-post)

uhhh

Shocking news.

Alfred, this was the first you'd heard about it too I'm sure.

RIP month of falsely feeling credible

yeah guyz mr snrub is being completely serious

This is no way for Todd Burns to treat his staff. See the knife in my back?

does ott still write for pitchfork? that guy is a stinker. peeyoooo!

okay, it seems i only have myself to blame. i've been busy with other stuff and haven't been able to singlehandedly keep ilm entertaining. i apologize. for the lack of random picture threads. the lack of long spazzy thread titles. i'm sorry for everything.

ilm just needs a little more bite is all. a little more tang. some zazz. we'll be up and running in no time.

just a little too toothless these days. no i don't want flambe wars and all that no no no just a little more...grit. a good thread to sink my teeth into for fun and profit. that no age thread was pretty entertaining! considering i've barely heard the band. and that's the kind of thread i like. it can be "about" anything and go anywhere.

when ile would hold their semi-annual let's diss ilm fest on some metathread people would always say that they never came here cuz it was so "scary" and "intimidating". ha! they wouldn't say that now i'll bet. buncha pussycats on here. and that can be nice sometimes. (thinking back to when i first started hanging out here and blount and jess would rip someone to shreds and send them home crying without blinking an eye)

-- scott seward, Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:50 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

is scott proposing to make ILM The new home of meta?

Ride it out dude.

Not necessary. I don't miss people not participating, or stopping in, if that's actually what's happening.

Balkanization is never the answer, people

It's working great in the US, far as I'm concerned.

In answering another query, Rolling Teenpop was rubbed out when one of the solid contributors got sick of it being trolled and asked for locking.

It's working great in the US, far as I'm concerned

o_O

I'm going to assume Gorge is joking about not minding that people *who would otherwise like to talk about country music* stay out of the rolling country thread because the people on that thread don't want "outsiders" in. Because that's a bullshit attitude to have on a public message board.

Maybe he doesn't want extreme metal fans posting in his rolling hard rock thread?

Yeah, the thing you need to understand about George is that he is a good writer and really knowledgeable in his fields, but he is the metal/hard rock version of Geir and you just have to add "to me" or "in bed" after everything he says.

That prostitute guy is maybe more Geir-like.

Or more annoying anyway. I like Gorge.

For what it's worth Re: rolling metal thread, I found it much more accepting, less cliquish, and easier to join in when I first arrived at ILX than it has been when I've made attempts to join the conversations on ILE, even after I'd been here for a while.

for what it's worth, i don't even spend 15 minutes a day on ile these days. and i used to hang there all the time.

i totally made ilm entertaining for myself tonight. i always forget that i have to make my own fun.

for what it's worth, i don't even spend 15 minutes a day on ile these days. and i used to hang there all the time.

Just wait for Lost's new season. Or do you still follow that?

Even if you might sometimes think this (thread title) you can always bump some old jazz thread and then I know what I like about ILM once again. So I think it might be wrong

i watch Lost faithfully, but I kinda got lost by the lost thread. what people are saying here about rolling threads applies to me and the lost thread. goes to fast and my brain can't keep up. i just try to remember, like, THREE things that i saw on an episode of Lost. I definitely can't hold theory discussions about it.

i HAVE been going on my sadly neglected I Love Books a little more recently. the board i started one long ago winter in another life. mostly cuz i'm actually reading some books lately. that helps.

I'm kinda holding out that rolling threads that aren't TITTWIS/Chicago style clique gossip will slowly be replaced by more individual topics threads as more people grow annoyed by the red bar eating their conversations

remember when 400 posts was, like, CRAZY? now we do it all the time and momus hasn't posted in years

The red bar is your friend, Tombot!

yeah, i just never see anything on ile that makes me want to join in. and i used to start threads like a maniac, eh, what are ya gonna do. it is an ebb and flow thing. i'll be back when i have the time.

and the noize board! jeez, what did happen there? i never go there either. i used to be there every day. it can't be ALL your fault, tom. hahahaha! i don't keep up with the inner turmoil, so i'm kinda out of the loop. if i can get someone to tell me who gareth is this week i feel like i've accomplished something. is gareth even around now!??? i don't even know. and nobody will tell me what happened to blount or if he has ever come back. it's all a little confusing sometimes. where is jack cole!!?? is he okay?
and is roger really back? i got no roger hate.

noize bored gutted by IRL

blount = balls
jack cole = jack battery-pack I think
roger = if assholes could fly etc

can't keep track of gareth

i always forget that i have to make my own fun.

Can everyone tattoo this on the backs of their hands so that the next time everyone wants to freak out about how awful and boring everyone else is, we can all look at the backs of our hands and stop being dumbasses?

wallofvaginas.jpg

there aren't any threads for nektar. there should be at least one. but what do i know--i'm still waiting for someone to respond to my one thread--scott walker vs. david sylvian

i like nektar a bunch. and scott walker would win that with both hands tied behind his back.

nektar vs. walker?

NO! scott walker -vs- david sylvian

i meant who would you take, walker or nektar? nektar has better album covers, at least. and if we're throwing japan and walker bros in sylvian vs. walker, it's maybe not so cut-and-dried

Hey, it's not my fault that most music people want to release these days is boring shite that I've forgotten about before I can get to a computer and post "hay check out this hott new electo-twee act from Estonia".

Personally, I blame Raggett and the Club of Rome All Music Guide who are implementing the New World Order strategy (popular music division).