JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

huh, i don't think i've heard any elvin jones solo joints. is this the best one, or will we be seeing more of his stuff in the poll?

well, that might be telling.

though i dont know myself as i cant remember what's all in the 250.

He does have another album nominated though which is very good.

239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata 380 points, 2 Votes
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/images/covers/rahsaan-roland-kirk-natural-black-inventions-root-strata.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3ojyRBXDuMN1OJSKaFKuv9

need to check this one out too.

Guess I should make a playlist of all these while we go on.

would be cool to have a playlist w/ a track from each album! or something. one big sampler.

here is the playlist featuring albums so far, wish I had thought of putting this in my opening post so it wont get lost , could a mod possibly do that?
Top 250 ILM Jazz Albums Spotify Playlist

^ you can all subscribe to that

238    Sun Ra - Other Planes of There    381 Points,  3 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415XGVK48NL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

dunno this one. Any good?

one of the real big hitters up next. If you didn't vote for it don't shout 'too low!'

237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland 384 Points, 4, Votes
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/media/coltrane_live_at_birdland.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1pVLiArpS7mibit7dSQm8t

Hm. I meant to vote for it, voted for plenty of other Coltrane. Must have accidentally deleted it. What can I shout in that case?

'bollocks'?

which is what i said as i forgot to vote for it too. Shocked it's not in top 100 but its partly my fault. Yeah i guess i listed other coltrane and somehow left this off. Obviously others did too. Always the problem with think others will vote for it...then they dont.
Anyway if you dunno this album, then play it!

Love at birdland insanely low, grossed out that sun ra has already placed two records

*live

Live at birdland >>>>>> a love supreme

you don't dig sun ra? or just the 'ilm' thing about certain acts you dont like? like new order or stooges in polls.

Thought you meant love at (for) Live at Birdland

Its a thing in general we had abig debate about once how outsider/avant/weird jazz artists are overrated relative to mainstream jazz innovators in certain circles that happen to overlap with ilx (mingus and ra are both artists I love, esp mingus, but they both benefit from this and ime guys like duke and bird suffer)

haha yeah i thought that too

xp

another big name next

aw coltrane at birdland is in my personal top 5

And yes I expected it to be much higher
xp

did you vote, grady?

236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust 386 Points, 3 Votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cNufAawkL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/00Uf5PRAinCJ0oiCX1Cv2k

no i didnt know about this until today
xp

Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I can't recommend Babi enough. If there is a single, definitive "energy music" record, it's this one.

ahh damn. The voting was open for like a month and nominations 2 weeks before that.

yeah i hate ILM tho so

i erm downloaded Babi Will play it soon.

dunno this one. Any good?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:05 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

I love it. It has probably my single favorite Pat Patrick (aka, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick's dad) moment, on "Pleasure." The rest of it is very nearly at the level of The Magic City.

i dont hate ilm i just never pay attention to dates on polls

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Hm. I meant to vote for it, voted for plenty of other Coltrane. Must have accidentally deleted it. What can I shout in that case?

― Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:22 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

I didn't vote for this only because I would've rather voted for "Live" At The Village Vanguard, but it's my own fault for not nominating that one.

That Elvin Jones disc was recently reissued; I reviewed it on BurningAmbulance.com.

i erm downloaded Babi Will play it soon.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

That record is ridiculously out of print (never seen it go for less than $80), and unfortunately Graves missed the window for putting out a potentially decent-selling reissue.

been too busy with real life shit in recent weeks to vote, but really hoping that the soul zodiac album gets some love.

was pretty funked out to see that one listed.

[it also happened to be one of the few that i actually have listened to and loved]

FFS i forgot to vote for thrust. It was in my top 20 shortlist but i somehow didnt c&p it over. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

still wouldnt have got it in the top 150 anyway i dont think. but still.
aaaaaaaaaarrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

Im wondering how a lot of the 70s disco/pop/fusion jazz stuff will fare here. My prediction is that you see stock dropping for guys like Parker and hard bop artists (clifford brown etc) while stock rises for Mingus & Sun Ra type artists (at least, relative to the traditional jazz canon). But w/ people getting into the Mizell stuff and the weirder Herbie Hancock records, I'm wondering if that stuff has made inroads at all. I kind of treat it as pop more than jazz personally (or at least 'dance') but ..yeah

235  Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement  387 Points, 3 Votes 
http://thebadpennyblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/les-mccann-and-eddie-harris-swiss-movement-album-cover.jpg?w=300&h=300

also rlly curious how the sonny rollins stuff will shake out!! village vanguard?

Im wondering how a lot of the 70s disco/pop/fusion jazz stuff will fare here. My prediction is that you see stock dropping for guys like Parker and hard bop artists (clifford brown etc) while stock rises for Mingus & Sun Ra type artists (at least, relative to the traditional jazz canon). But w/ people getting into the Mizell stuff and the weirder Herbie Hancock records, I'm wondering if that stuff has made inroads at all. I kind of treat it as pop more than jazz personally (or at least 'dance') but ..yeah

― D-40, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:00

Afraid I can't answer that.
Well, I could, but y'know..

Would it be possible to start including the years for these albums? Just might be handy for titles some of us are unfamiliar with.

if spotify went by release date it would be easier but ok, as long as someone else scrolls up and does that stuff while i get on with this. Need to google release dates now for each album.

234    Derek Bailey - Ballads  (2002)  387 Points, 5 Votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xSpWY1epn2g/TOaWoVKwWSI/AAAAAAAAAkU/EissXG_uang/s1600/Ballads.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/509NZ5uv94HI1xp9mtdVdk

i dont know anything about that. anyone want 2 tell me??

grossed out that sun ra has already placed two records

This is kind of why I didn't vote. I didn't want to gross out any of the real jazz fans. Well, there's more to it than that. If I find I don't like most of the genre I guess I should disqualify myself. What's the point in voting in that case?

Other Planes of There is great. I like Ballads as well.

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It's the "jazziest" Derek Bailey I've heard. Takes jazz standards and takes them apart or then veers into typical Derek Bailey style (I guess--I haven't actually heard that much of his work), but you do get at least part of a straightforward rendering before they get taken apart.

its not that the records arent great its that sun ra will be way overrepresented