JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

Bet you're glad it's a top 250!

Strange Strings is spectacular, though it's almost closer to Harry Partch than it is to "Jazz".

The only thing I know about the Blow-Up soundtrack is that it's the source of the main sample in "Groove is in the Heart".

243 Sonny Sharrock - Guitar 376 Points, 2 Votes
http://jazzbluesclub.com/uploads/posts/thumbs/1275211459_sonny.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4aj1w1pMSVv3O2q7yZrEjt

Lotta great shit down at the bottom - I love 60s Monk on Columbia.

That is why I did the top 250. Just because it's not in the top 50 doesn't mean it's no good. Hopefully others will check this good stuff out, I know I will be checking out the stuff I don't know.

oops that's a tie with
TIE
243    Milford Graves - Babi    376 Points, 2 Voters 
http://www.recordmania.net/media/covers/WJF44104.jpg

Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

I believe Guitar was my #7.

next one up I was sure would be top 100

242    Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks    377    3
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/media/art_ensemble_chicago_message_folks.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5XvmZV63Y8OPDbD2cS0mXU

never heard this one before tbh - probably would have voted for it if I had

thats a great album imo

i prefer 'nice guys' tho

TIE
240 Peter Brötzmann - Nipples 377 Points, 4 Votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZRYySFc6Ezc/RnIVmo8Ln3I/AAAAAAAAAGM/Tw0ZOoFkLfs/s400/nipples_cover250.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6jJRegh41ry4oP4w0ohDTQ

240 Elvin Jones - Dear John C. 377 Points, 4 Votes
http://www.charliemarianotribute.de/Cover/2041.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1HL5ixGdqbdEWkmJw36j0I

huh, i don't think i've heard any elvin jones solo joints. is this the best one, or will we be seeing more of his stuff in the poll?

well, that might be telling.

though i dont know myself as i cant remember what's all in the 250.

He does have another album nominated though which is very good.

239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata 380 points, 2 Votes
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/images/covers/rahsaan-roland-kirk-natural-black-inventions-root-strata.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3ojyRBXDuMN1OJSKaFKuv9

need to check this one out too.

Guess I should make a playlist of all these while we go on.

would be cool to have a playlist w/ a track from each album! or something. one big sampler.

here is the playlist featuring albums so far, wish I had thought of putting this in my opening post so it wont get lost , could a mod possibly do that?
Top 250 ILM Jazz Albums Spotify Playlist

^ you can all subscribe to that

238    Sun Ra - Other Planes of There    381 Points,  3 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415XGVK48NL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

dunno this one. Any good?

one of the real big hitters up next. If you didn't vote for it don't shout 'too low!'

237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland 384 Points, 4, Votes
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/media/coltrane_live_at_birdland.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1pVLiArpS7mibit7dSQm8t

Hm. I meant to vote for it, voted for plenty of other Coltrane. Must have accidentally deleted it. What can I shout in that case?

'bollocks'?

which is what i said as i forgot to vote for it too. Shocked it's not in top 100 but its partly my fault. Yeah i guess i listed other coltrane and somehow left this off. Obviously others did too. Always the problem with think others will vote for it...then they dont.
Anyway if you dunno this album, then play it!

Love at birdland insanely low, grossed out that sun ra has already placed two records

*live

Live at birdland >>>>>> a love supreme

you don't dig sun ra? or just the 'ilm' thing about certain acts you dont like? like new order or stooges in polls.

Thought you meant love at (for) Live at Birdland

Its a thing in general we had abig debate about once how outsider/avant/weird jazz artists are overrated relative to mainstream jazz innovators in certain circles that happen to overlap with ilx (mingus and ra are both artists I love, esp mingus, but they both benefit from this and ime guys like duke and bird suffer)

haha yeah i thought that too

xp

another big name next

aw coltrane at birdland is in my personal top 5

And yes I expected it to be much higher
xp

did you vote, grady?

236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust 386 Points, 3 Votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cNufAawkL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/00Uf5PRAinCJ0oiCX1Cv2k

no i didnt know about this until today
xp

Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I can't recommend Babi enough. If there is a single, definitive "energy music" record, it's this one.

ahh damn. The voting was open for like a month and nominations 2 weeks before that.

yeah i hate ILM tho so

i erm downloaded Babi Will play it soon.

dunno this one. Any good?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:05 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

I love it. It has probably my single favorite Pat Patrick (aka, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick's dad) moment, on "Pleasure." The rest of it is very nearly at the level of The Magic City.

i dont hate ilm i just never pay attention to dates on polls

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Hm. I meant to vote for it, voted for plenty of other Coltrane. Must have accidentally deleted it. What can I shout in that case?

― Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:22 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

I didn't vote for this only because I would've rather voted for "Live" At The Village Vanguard, but it's my own fault for not nominating that one.

That Elvin Jones disc was recently reissued; I reviewed it on BurningAmbulance.com.

damn 5th columnists

WTF at only including stuff after 1945? Big band jazz is my favorite jazz.

It took 9 years to complain?

as I already said many times Tuomas was supposed to run a pre 1945 jazz tracks poll to compliment this one.

I find that lists like this serve two purposes: as a cross-section of an individual or group aesthetic, and as a guide for new music to listen to. I don't see the point of complaining what's on them or not on them, make your own list if you want a mirror of your preferences.

I also wonder why some jazz fans/historians/critics feel that if you like one strand of this music, you ought to enjoy listening to old records that have nothing in common with your taste. I'm not talking about these records appearing on lists, I mean the outrage when this or that is absent or under-appreciated. Is it because this one hundred years of music is all still called "jazz"? I mean, how would extreme metal fans respond to someone shoving Chuck Berry or Yardbirds records at them, because it's all "rock"?

I thought a big reason why this was post-45 only was that pre-45 stuff would get lost in the shuffle. Better to separate it out and give it the attention it deserves.

Indeed, but Tuomas didn't run it but maybe one of the people on this thread bemoaning the lack of pre 45 jazz could volunteer to run it?

Rude he wrote the theme tune for this board and didn't even place here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8NQgqYoVQ

A short rollout meant that someone had to miss out.