those first 2 albums are pretty diverse records that resist pigeonholing, if not as much as some of the later ones
― some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
I hate II - it's just so full-on, you know? It's like hearing a modern record that's been too heavily compressed.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah an album with "Thank You", "Ramble On", & "What Is & What Should Never Be" isn't a "heavy blooz" album. If anything, the band got less "poppy" after the first two albums. The "blooz" were always there.
― Euler, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
Thank You apart, I feel bludgeoned by it
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
Let the meta begin!!
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
have been thinking about the job i worked in college where at least a couple nights a week i'd be in there w/ the classic rock station on late enough to here the Get The Led Out block, and that was when i really got into the LZ deep cuts and decided to get the box set and have all the albums (although i listened to the Zep set on another station in high school pretty consistently too). that was where i fell in love with "The Rain Song" and "Achilles," although i remember the beginning of "Ten Years Gone" always getting me hyped and thinking it was going somewhere and then the rest of the song never really felt like much of anything.
― some dude, Saturday, 27 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
how can you hate led zep ii. mentalists!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
First two are more clearly blues-rock, I guess, and then Zep goes art-rock and gets more interesting? Or I should say "interesting," because the first two are still good, and the things that make the later albums good - playing, production - are totally in place from note one.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 August 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
My ballot was largely tossed off, and the order was atrocious. But pretty early on I decided that despite my love of synths, Mellotrons, hobbits and lollipops, I was going to vote for every HEAVY Zep song first -- and then the ballads acoustic things I liked. In high school I loved III and spent a lot of time with the second disc of Graffiti. But at the end of the day, those songs didn't feel like the reason Led Zeppelin became Led Zeppelin.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 August 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
Zep I is awesome, but Zep II always feels like a sort of exhaustion of that initial burst of creativity. "Moby Dick" is the dead giveaway here, a horrible idea that suddenly made every big British rock band decide they needed their own 'drum solo' track (see: Rat Salad, The Mule)...my two favorite songs are the two that placed highest: What Is & Ramble On, and both have that sort of light-hearted, carefree, almost jazzy feel (maybe not so much on Ramble On) which became one of many facets of the band that set them apart from their heavy metal heirs...
― FROXB NEWS (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 August 2011 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't Cream beat Zeppelin to the punch with a drum solo track, "Toad?" The fact that I can't hum the riff to "Toad," but can hum "Moby Dick," says it all.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
Did "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" predate "Moby Dick"?
― L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, it was released in 1968. II was released in Oct 1969.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 August 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
Would add that I spent the hurricane dancing to the second disc of Physical Graffiti with my daughters -- and if there's one song I should've voted for and that absolutely should've placed it's "Night Flight." Great "meet me in the mornin'" chorus -- and damn if the "WHOAH MAMA WELL I THINK IT'S TIME I'M LEAVIN'" break isn't some kind of epic motherfucking throwdown.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
touche xxp
― FROXB NEWS (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
Would add that I spent the hurricane dancing to the second disc of Physical Graffiti with my daughters -- and if there's one song I should've voted for and that absolutely should've placed it's "Night Flight." Great "meet me in the mornin'" chorus -- and damn if the "WHOAH MAMA WELL I THINK IT'S TIME I'M LEAVIN'" break isn't some kind of epic motherfucking throwdown.― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:45 AM (43 minutes ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:45 AM (43 minutes ago)
I mentioned on the other thread that "Night Flight" would not have sounded out of place on Every Picture Tells A Story.
― Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
Otm
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
everyone feeling bad for "Night Flight" is proof that LZ is so great that we can't countdown like well over half their catalog without their being one big glaring omission people all regret
― some dude, Sunday, 28 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
I've also mentioned the Cleveland '77 show upthread -- tho I hadn't heard it in probably 20 years (same for Physical Graffiti prob.), for my money it is the best thing I've heard by them: loud, dirty, phased-out and strung out, with an almost desert island tracklisting. Why they haven't released it (assuming they haven't) I do not understand.
But oh my god that performance of "Nobody's Fault But Mine." I just completely forgot how fucking ENORMOUS his voice sounds on that song -- the "Got s monkey on my back/Got a MUH-MUH-MUH-MUH-MONKEY ON MUH BACK! BACK! BACK! BACK!" couplet is just so huge and intense. It gives me chills.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
That song always sounded especially proto-GnR to me for some reason.
(And, yeah, I always thought "Rod Stewart" when I heard "Night Flight" too.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
I was on vacation while the results rolled out, but I just read through all 1771 posts and I want to say THANK YOU to WmC. These polls are just a lot of fun.
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
I should add one other story about the Agora Ballroom show...
I went to college out in the Cleveland area, so I actually knew a woman who went to that show. By the time I got to know her, it was in the late 90s -- she had been a teenager when that show happened and was still smokin'. So, I asked her what the show was like.
Me: What was it like?Her: The minute after I got there, somebody said, "Here, take this" and gave me some pill. I don't remember anything after that.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
I dunno, I don't see "Moby Dick" working in Scorsese's Casino nearly as well.
(also, I can hum both. I prefer "Toad" for it's garageyness, but don't like either of the solos much)
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for the tip re: Cleveland 77 show. Is the sound quality generally sort of fair to poor for that one. The only boots online I could find sound like audience recordings, pretty poor...any recs for particular titles featuring that show would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
The one I have isn't amazing quality, but it's def. from a soundboard. I'm sure it's the same one you've heard -- it's just been copied a million times. Def. worth digging into.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
OK, NTI. Thanks
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
I was on vacation while the results rolled out, but I just read through all 1771 posts and I want to say THANK YOU to WmC.These polls are just a lot of fun.
― ArchCarrier, Monday, August 29, 2011 2:16 PM (1 hour ago)
Thank you! They are a huge amt of fun, and all credit goes to the enthusiasm and participation of the voters.
― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
I just read through all 1771 posts
I'm guessing you're okay with all those long "Moby Dick" drum solos?
― clemenza, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
Look for a boot called The Supreme Destroyers. Best version of that Cleveland show I've found.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks, EZ!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
Quite an effort there indeed.
― grandavis, Monday, 29 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
>> Didn't Cream beat Zeppelin to the punch with a drum solo track, "Toad?" The fact that I can't hum the riff>> to "Toad," but can hum "Moby Dick," says it all.>>>> ― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 AM (2 days ago)
> Did "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" predate "Moby Dick"?>> ― L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:24 AM (2 days ago)
Irrelevent which of those came first, because the Beach Boys beat them all to the punch years before with "Denny's Drums" from 1964!
― Lee547 (Lee626), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
didn't get the chance to see the final results until today. good work everyone! glad to see "ten years gone" and "the rain song" so unexpectedly high (i think)
my ballot:
1. Achilles Last Stand2. In My Time of Dying3. I'm Gonna Crawl4. Tea for One5. In the Light6. Trampled Under Foot7. No Quarter8. Ten Years Gone9. In the Evening10. The Rain Song11. Nobody's Fault But Mine12. Kashmir13. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You14. When the Levee Breaks15. Fool in the Rain16. Dazed and Confused17. Friends18.The Ocean19. Misty Mountain Hop20. Carouselambra
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
i know "i'm gonna crawl" is majorly hated by some but that shit gets me emotional. sad it didn't make it. "tea for one" too.
Naive Teen Idol, where did you go to school, if you don't mind me asking? I went to Baldwin-Wallace from 1987-89 and again from 1992-95.
― Ad hom . . . in em's cock? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
Oberlin from 93-96.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
huh
did you happen to know a woman named Lun4 W0lf3 who transferred to Harvard circa 1994?
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Don't think so...
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
just curious, we always wondered why a music major would leave Oberlin for Harvard
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
If I had to listen to Dyer Maker and Over The Hills back to back all day long, I would definitely get tired of Over The Hills first
― that's cute, but it's WRONG (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
that's cute but it's wrong
― jesus & ramona (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
i was digging through a box of cassettes i acquired at some point but have mostly never listened to, and in there is a The Very Best of Led Zeppelin C-90, released by Commodore Record* in a pink case. this tracklist would make a decent 'get the led out' ballot:
Side A
Black DogImmigrant SongStairway To HeavenWhole Lotta LoveHeartbreaker Living Loving Maid (She's Just A Woman)All My LoveDown By The SeasideCommunication BreakdownHow Many More Times
Side B
D'yer Mak'erDancing Day**Boggie With Stu***Babe I'm Gonna Leave YouSince I've Been Loving YouGood Times Bad TimesMisty Mountain HopThank YouHot DogRock And Roll
* note no plural** again, note no plural*** yes, "boggie"
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty interesting piece that's obviously very relevant to Led Zeppelin:
http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2011/jay-z-and-alan-lomax/
Which doesn't excuse lifting songs almost whole without attribution, like the Jake Holmes example cited above, but Led Zeppelin's appropriations tended to be so brilliant, I'm usually "That's it?" when somebody cites a song's source.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's a cool link
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Belated thanks to the person who pointed out the "Night Flight" Rod Stewart vibe. Changed my life forever.
― SongOfSam, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Kinda glad I came to this poll late. I don't know if I could've whittled my choices down properly. Seeing Zep's best laid out like this, though, made me realize that they really are prolly one of my top ten favorites of all time.
For real. Reading through the results, I kept wondering, "Is 'Night Flight' popular enough to actually land this high up?". It is with me, for sure. What a fun, awesome song.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 2 September 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeaaaaaah! Night Flight=Giddily Swingin' RockAwsomeness
― t**t, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/video/kashmir-live-l-6-26-77
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87kcHA5veg0&feature=share
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 September 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
On this day: January 12, 1969 British rock band Led Zeppelin released their eponymous first album.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 January 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link