Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young: C/D, S/D

Still does, to me.

1. Rock and Roll Doctor
2. Two Trains
3. The Fan
4. On Your Way Down
5. Spanish Moon >
6. Skin It Back >
7. Fat Man In The Bath Tub
8. Oh Atlanta
9. Willin'

It's a really, really excellent quality Pre-FM broadcast recording. Out of my entire bootleg collection, this is the one show I keep coming back to the most. It's just so fuckin' good. Better than the studio recordings, even (IMHO). They're on fire, I tells ya! Now go get it! *pant pant pant* ;)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre300/e349/e34945e0x9d.jpg

I got to see them on a free ticket a few years ago and I was really amazed by how well they can hit those harmonies live.

Hating on CSNY is like making fun of your ex-hippy uncle that teaches middle school.

thats really good then? i always look at it in the store but am suspicious of it. maybe its the book cover packaging

CSNY is pretty great and I've been wanting to check out "If I Could Only Remember My Name" for awhile now

People be saying crazy things.

No thread just on Graham Nash, so I thought I'd just revive this instead.

I'm listening to Songs For Beginners and it's gorgeous. I can't get enough of the group of musicians surrounding CSNY around 1970, including Garcia, Lesh, Grace Slick, and so on; the PERRO thing. This record is part of this group. "I Used To Be A King" is a highlight.

Evidently Nash has a retrospective box set coming out later this year. Does anyone know anything else about this?

And did any of you pick up the Crosby box last year? And was it any good? I love the outtakes from "If I Could Only Remember My Name" (linked to earlier in this thread), but evidently these didn't come out on the box. I'd love a box of just the PERRO stuff.

and i'm listening to the self titled crosby/nash and there have been moments where i've literally had to stop writing/reading and just listen because they're so beautiful

Yes - this is a really really good record and I don't know anything at all about the rest of the CSNY universe. Search "Immigration Man" if nothing else.

ha. i was reading that quote right above ^ and thought i could've written it, and i did! been listening to that album again a lot lately

just picked up the '77 CSN album. so good. Dark Star is a fucking stormer

cathedral would make a good movie song

i bought "wild tales" by graham nash for $1 a couple months ago, it's pretty great.

someone upthread says that the harmonies on "Helpless" ruin the song, but I think it's the piano that's the problem. Turns Neil's raw lament into something sort of sickly sweet.
have been listening to a bootleg of a stills/young show from 76 that is interesting. even though young was reported to not be into the tour, he sounds kind of in to it here, singing backup enthusiastically on suite judy blue eyes. it's stills' band, so it's got a weird jimmy buffet cocaine vibe at times. but i kind of dig it.

I love this footage, extraordinary, young (I mean in years) and at their peak (no lsd pun intended):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QsSc95pPPY

It'll melt your face, dude!

"Simple Man" off of Nash's Songs for Beginners is such a beautiful little tune. I haven't really gotten into the rest of the album much yet.

There's a youtube clip floating around of Nash singing it unaccompanied on piano until Crosby creeps up on stage to add those incredible harmonies- gorgeous stuff.

Was just listening to this unreleased CSNY track from 1974 -- "Pushed It Over The End", which is pretty killer. Weird jazzy vibe, pretty different from the only other version I've heard of it, which is a Neil Young solo acoustic live thing. Not sure if anything they did really sounds like this ...

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up. xp

God, when they were on, so classic:

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up.

I would pay to produce this film.

i'd chip in some cash too ...
That clip above is pretty much where they peaked I think! Pretty rad. I've heard some pretty intolerable bootlegs of CSNY though. Mainly Stills' fault I think.

that 'deja vu' record is kind of nice, but is distinctly lacking a unified personality. a little bit sugary at times, could perhaps do with some more grit and unharnessed soul-searching.

you crazy, mang. he almost CUT HIS HAIR.

edd hurt otm way up there at the tippy-top: "pre-road downs" is A++.

i only have the first two and enjoy both but rarely listen to either. i'm probably partial to deja-vu tho.

came across a really good copy of that first Manassass record the other day for cheap and have been pleasantly surprised. i never thought i'd have much use for stills outside of BS or CSN& sometimes Y

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up. xp

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lol!! time's up in the shower? or like, on earth? because if that fat bastard snuck up on me in the shower i would certainly hope that all my worldly affairs were in order.

oh yes he's is a psychokiller. maybe blows a puff of cocaine from his cupped hand and whispers "deja vu, bitch" or something. haven't had much time to work on it tbh.

"Almost cut YOUR THROAT!"

"Why can't we go on as three---you, me, and the Grim Reaper?"

"Almost cut YOUR THROAT!"

^^^PRINT IT

haha. Nash could probably be his murderous sidekick, too. "Teach your children ... TO DIE."

Your grave will be a very very very fine grave.

Shit- this Crosby movie pitch is cracking me right the fuck up.

You could have the obligatory teen horror sex scene with "Triad" playing in the background, the girls refusing his advances before he murders them. "WHY CAN'T WE GO ON AS THREE!"

it's rich territory it's true

I can see the poster now:

HIS HARMONIES WILL ENTRANCE YOU.

HIS BULK WILL CRUSH YOU.

"What's Happening?!?!"

songs for beginners is so fucking catchy, love every song. i think the songs ppl have mentioned they love in this thread so far are simple man and i used to be a king. my fave is prob man in the mirror

military madness also owns

John Sebastian?

how about a female singer? Oh, right -- these guys were pigs.

Mama Cass? She didn't write songs though. But how about Dave Mason?

how about a female singer? Oh, right -- these guys were pigs.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

right, i mean, we're assuming that they're basically pigs, also, we start getting women involved and crosby/stills are pretty quickly outclassed

mike patto might be interesting. dave mason! yeah, that's definitely gotta be it, it'd have to be dave mason in that role.

Duh, Mike Love.

Although in reality it would have been Stills' buddy Peter Tork.

Richie Furay would have fitted in pretty well but then it would just have been Buffalo Springfield.

Rick James

the thing is that Nash’s voice is a really vital component of their gorgeous awesome vocal harmonies… Dave mason sounds too much like stills, imo

Art Garfunkel actually substituted for Crosby on CSN albums for awhile.

Crosby, Stills, Parsons, and Garfunkel

There's a hot 16-minute "Down By The River" on the new Fillmore '69 album.

Oh yeah. Maybe too much of a good thing

How does Fillmore 1969 compare to 4-Way Street? I know both have been edited substantially (cut songs or cut banter), but I guess the former is much closer to an actual show, all drawn from the final night of their 1969 run at Fillmore, while 4-Way is sort of a best of compilation from the whole 1970 tour? Also, Fillmore sounds like there wasn't any overdubbing, they leave in way too much to suggest any "fixes," but was 4-Way heavily overdubbed?

FWIW, I wasn't really a fan of CSN&Y - I'm far more of a Neil Young fan and much prefer Buffalo Springfield - but in recent years I've grown to appreciate Crosby, Stills & Nash (i.e. the debut) and Deja Vu, and I like their Woodstock appearance. Still don't like the later stuff at all, but I figure it may be worth seeing what else they've recorded from those first couple of years.

Stills reportedly didn't like 4-Way Street because Nash (who ultimately oversaw the production) refused to allow overdubs or sweetening. There's certainly flab on it (Stills' gospel shouting on "49 Bye Byes"/"America's Children"--YIKES!).

I haven't listened to all of the Fillmore '69 album, but it is shorter and has a more appealing setlist.

Nash oversaw the expansion of 4WS for CD in the '90s to make it (sort of) more representative of a typical set by added one more acoustic solo set song per member--although in typical Neil fashion his track is a 'medley' of three full songs that were mixed and mastered by someone other than who handled the rest of the album.

If you're a hardy sort, you might want to check out the 1974 Live box, which is sourced from multiple shows to create a "Dream Set" over three discs. Lots of terrific Neil stuff, but also some obviously tinkered with harmonies (autotune!) and other stuff that they couldn't airbrush away (Stills is very phlegmy at points in his leads).

Ultimately though, if you're interested in what else they were doing in those years, you might be better off trying out some of the early solo albums: Crosby's If I Could Only Remember My Name; the Crosby & Nash S/T; Stills' Manassas (with Chris Hillman); and Nash's Songs For Beginners and Wild Tales (which is an interesting Neil footnote as it was cut right after the tour that gave us Time Fades Away and has 3/5ths of the Stray Gators as the backing band with occasional Neil cameos--it's the closest any of the other guys came to making a "Ditch Trilogy" album.

the 1974 doom tour box is good - lots of great ditch-era neil on there.

I actually got If I Could Only Remember My Name - I was surprised Elvis Costello was a fan of that album and after seeing Crosby in 2019 (what may have been his last NYC show), I picked it up. The 1974 box set sounds very intriguing, especially since the “ditch” era is my favorite, so will check that out - thank you C. Grisso/McCain!

That '74 live release is great -- CSNY's decadence in full force, and one of Neil's great unrecorded, time-signature-shifting epics.

I always think CSN would have been so much better if every song on every album was just Stills on acoustic and the three of them harmonizing. Instead they believed themselves rock gods of some sort and leaned into that mode hard. 1974 is the one time I think they made the excess sound compelling.