Keane: Whats Your opinion?

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he's right! something oddly re-assuring about it's dullness - like a motorway on a grey dawn, right before you pull into Hook Moto services to take a dump

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 May 2004 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm undecided as to whether "Everybody's Changing" is a great pop record or wherther it just sounds like I've heard it before - I thought it was a cover initially, or an old song rereleased.

DJ Mencap - the early demos are COVERED in guitar.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I see. It was just like, I look up and there's all these cartoon black pianos flying around the screen. Pianos! Everywhere! And now some music with a piano on. Keane! They play the piano! TASTE OUR GIMMICK, out now in all good shops.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 May 2004 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"Great pop record" what in the fuck are you all ON?! I specially downloaded it because of that and it is simply DREADFUL. His voice! I had to stop the song at the two minute mark because my ears cannot take three-and-a-half minutes of that NOTELESS WHINE. And this much-vaunted piano line sounds like a Grade 1 finger exercise.

UGH, UGH, UGH.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

oh come on it could have been worse, you could have had Jamie Cullum playing the piano, and hitting it, and dancing around it, ad nauseam.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 10 May 2004 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't hate Cullum cos he's short, people.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

...and corralling horrid jazz-lite piano runs into otherwise dull MOR rock songs.

(xpost)

"It could be worse, it could be Jamie Cullum" applies to everything ever though!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hate him because he's a billious cocktwat.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Lex, you need to come to the South West for a drink.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, and graduate too.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I have my first exam in three days and I haven't actually heard of half the theorists it'll be on.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Worst thing about the Keane album = the constant and ostentatious production flourishes shine sheen shimmer shimmy shite.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

What, worse than his voice?! Could ANYTHING be worse than his voice?

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah. "Listen to how EXPENSIVE this records sounds. They had a PC in the studio! Let's have some filtersweep instead of a guitar solo!"

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Worst thing about the Keane album = the constant and ostentatious production flourishes shine sheen shimmer shimmy shite

Is it overproduced? Surely not - whoever would have thought that could happen...!

― ___ (___), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, Ronan is a cunt. That song is now stuck in my head after his post, and it's the most nasty thing on the record.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder whether Tori Amos's piano was marketed in the same gimmicky way in 1992. Of course, she is a million times better than Keane, but pianos tend to send these record company people into a tizzy.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Who was that wee American or canadian girl with the ostentatious piano single from last year? I blame her.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh - you mean her who played a piano on the back of a truck driven through New York? Forgotten.

― ___ (___), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, that's the one.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Vanessa Carlton, who will smack you down for comparing her to Keane, as she is now GOTH! There are some pretty bits on the Keane album, but BLOODY HELL IT IS DULL. Like a throbbing migraine.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Vanessa Carlton! She was rubbish. Is she still signed and stuff?

(xpost GOTH?!)

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Vanessa Carlton, 1000 Miles. Pretty good record. But then I quite like Keane too. Not earth-stopping, but good tunes.

― harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you not see the posts on this? I think she's dating Him Out Of Third Eye Blind and is going all dark. She was rubbish, but that single was gloriously gloopy. Keane are just mind-numbing.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard something off the album on the radio last week - it sounded like late period Ultravox.

This is not a good thing.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That "1000 Miles" was great. I'd like to see her do Goth.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Not earth-stopping, but good tunes

We WANT earth-stopping!!! God, I can imagine the scenario. The world is about to end and I stuck with someone who puts on these "good tunes". I can just about deal with Coldplay, but Keane and all that are just really taking the piss.

― ___ (___), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

If you think of them sounding like a-Ha (which they do) rather than Travis (which they clearly don't) you may like them more.

― harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Point me towards some current Earth-stopping music then.

― harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Everybody's Changing has a nice piano bit. It just so happens that it's rather own3d by the piano bit on 'Godhopping' by Dogs Die In Hot Cars. And more or less every other bit on 'Godhopping', too.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone ever should go Goth. Name me one artist that could not be improved by doing this.

They do not sound like A-Ha. I cannot imagine Keane to be even remotely similar to those geniuses.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

They don't sound like A-Ha though - the singer does on occasion, but they are NOWHERE near as glorious and pop as A-Ha.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

So, which band do we need to consider Keane a bad version of to make Nick like them more????

― ___ (___), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Embrace!

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Most late period a-ha stuff is very dark and gloomy; almost goth. Certainly not very pop at all, and they always aspired to being the Doors (true!), the least pop band of all time.

― harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Summer Moved On" is gloomy, but it's still gloriously pop.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Indeed. That's why it was the lead 45 off a very gloomy LP.

― harveyw (harveyw), Monday, 10 May 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1980

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Somehow I knew Keane would be much-hated here. I guess I can hand in my ILM resignation because I like the record. Overproduced, I'll grant you (the album version of "Everybody's Changing" has too many additional annoying synth bits). And yes, there is a samey-ness to the album as a whole, but I think the songs are great and I don't see what's wrong with his voice. I think he's got good range and the tone doesn't bother me at all.

But then again, I also liked Embrace. There I said it.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Voice = fine, music = fine, songs = samey, text/subject matter = boring.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm interested to hear the album. on the basis of that single they're getting a cautious paws-up from weasel.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The missus bought the album, so I stuck it on the minidiscman this morning. After six tracks, I can say that I've enjoyed the singles and a nice bit on track two at the end of the chorus. The rest has floated by.

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob, I am a celebrity Embrace fan; you have nothing to fear here.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

'sunshine' is a track i heard yesterday. i liked it a lot.
i hate the singles. and his rubbery chops.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought 'bend and break' and 'this is the last time' were pretty decent singles-in-waiting.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not seeing very strong coldplay parallels. keane are much lighter.

coldplay = indie rock.
keane = indie pop.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

There's something about Keane which reminds me more of Travis than Coldplay. Everybody's Changing is only a guitar away from being on The Man Who.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe people slag them off too much - in that the songs I have actually heard have not troubled me: have been listenable, in truth.

I wrote that before I read the thread and saw that lots of people were sticking up for them. So, OK.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

O, and DC is spot on, above, there.

― the bluefox, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

during the ILXor outage, i actually got my hands on hopes and fears and listened to it. verdict: i like it! (yes, i also like coldplay -- and i don't hear the resemblance, except in the generic lead-singer-kinda/sorta-sounds-like-thom-yorke sense). it's nice, tuneful pop-music and i'm a sucker for the piano anyway. but i don't see why some are so down on them (although i can understand why the singer may annoy some) ... maybe it's another example of the anglo/american cultural divide (i.e.: my yank ears aren't exposed to this kinda thing constantly, and my yank eyes don't have to read breathless yank music crits going on and on about them; so they annoy some brits the way that outfits like wilco annoy me!)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 18 July 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

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Actually "HEADMASTER SUSPENDED FOR USING BIG FACED CHILD AS SATELLITE DISH" was about the singer from Keane

― DJ Mencap, Saturday, 23 August 2008 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

THey should be slowly dunked into vast, tepid vats of each others' vomit for what they did to "She Sells Sanctuary."

― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

"She Sells Sanctuary" is rubbish anyway.

― Freedom, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

OUT

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

Ha!

― Freedom, Saturday, 23 August 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

Geir's line about dull people reminds me of the guy on the DMB thread who said some of the best music ever is bland.

― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 24 August 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

After reading everything else in my bag after I forgot my book for the bus, I read that Spin piece on Coldplay and found myself wondering if they're actually the sound that I'll remember for the early 2000s (especially since, not being British nor particularly mindful, I can't tell Travis from Keane from Starsailor from Athlete).

Certainly seems like that's the background music for most of the advertisements aimed at my demographic (occasionally replaced by cooing female indie voice number three: vulnerable and fey). But whenever I hear that sort of sweeping, vague music, I feel like I've been sneezed on—damp and oozed-on and annoyed.

― I eat cannibals, Sunday, 24 August 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)

fucking thing sucks.

― Moka, Sunday, 24 August 2008 07:57 (seventeen years ago)

Geir's line about dull people reminds me of the guy on the DMB thread who said some of the best music ever is bland.

Dull people don't necessarily make dull music. For instance, Bach apparently was a very dull guy.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 24 August 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

truth bomb

― Z S, Sunday, 24 August 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

When I described Keane as dull, I wasn't referring to the absence of tabloid headlines - that would be intensely idiotic - but rather to the fact that in interviews they come across as rather dull-minded. But, as I said, that may be unfair.

I think Keane might be damned by the bands they're associated with. Travis, Kooks, Athlete, Starsailor etc. are all fairly ghastly. What Keane have over them - superior songwriting, melodic sophistication - perhaps aren't sufficiently in-your-face characteristics for people not to just lump them in with all the other dullards.

― Freedom, Sunday, 24 August 2008 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

And are the Kooks actually dull people? I know they said that the Strokes saved music, which is a pretty dull thing to say, but even so?

― Freedom, Sunday, 24 August 2008 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

It's alright, Ned - they're probably releasing it on 3.5 floppy disk

I sincerely hope The White Stripes, Billy Childish or some other technologically luddite act does so.

― Billy Dods, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

At the risk of being punched, I would say that "Spiralling" sounds like a mixture of Low-era Bowie and Colour of Spring era Talk Talk with what's-his-face from the Blue Nile on vocals, topped off with a post-ironic nod to "Fix Up Look Sharp" by Dizzee Rascal.

― Freedom, Friday, 12 September 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)

^drunk

― rizzx, Friday, 12 September 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

Does the singer/Penist still look like a plate of melted cheese?

― Fer Ark, Friday, 12 September 2008 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

Got 'Spiralling' on repeat at the moment. Outstanding, so it is.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

Still going. Yeah, this is great.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

suggest ban

― generally seems to hate all the right people (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

A year later. I still really like this tune, but it is agony to listen to - this is one band who could really do with a remastering.

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 December 2009 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

i have not been as up to date on music like i once was. anyways i stumbled upon this:

In the United Kingdom, Strangeland debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart with first-week sales of 47,839 copies. It is Keane's fifth consecutive number-one album, a record only beaten by ABBA (eight), Led Zeppelin (eight), The Beatles (seven) and Eminem (six). The album has sold around 100.000 copies in the UK, being certified gold. The album also reached number one in Ireland and the Netherlands, becoming their second number-one album in both countries. It debuted and peaked at #17 in the US, before falling to #70 the next week.

― Bee OK, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

Strangeland was just released in May of this year.

i'm just shocked as i had no idea that this is one band that really, really took off. i might have to go and listen to this.

― Bee OK, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

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