itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

Voodoo to thread please.

― Ioannis, Monday, December 22, 2008 2:24 AM Bookmark

I know this is gonna sound all "rev hates Voodoo", etc. and here I go with the imposing limits and stuff, but I don't want this thread to be about stuff that's already canon like D'Angelo or Badu.

yeah i love the shit out of voodoo but let's get on some new stuff

(good thread btw)

haha YOU CANNOT DENY YOUR OWN HISTORY MY SON

aha! then you must revise thread title thusly: "...pretentious post-modern r&b", no?

dug out me'shell's bitter last night. even more gorgeous than i'd remembered. this was considered a bit of a departure for her at the time, right? i am absolutely going to get the rest of her stuff now...

also, i dimly remember being sent the pattie blingh album mentioned upthread ages ago, just before i moved house and forget about it - i actually managed to find it & am looking forward to using it as a xmas-survival album

can we stick to new stuff rather than play neo soul catch up in this thread plz? (just so i can pick up tips for new music).

can u eat my butt?

I fully endorse this thread.

I like a couple of these so far, so thanks, this thread looks promising.

("a couple of these"--I only just started clicks on these links, you understand)

woah.... Here is a damn funky piece of vocoderized warp-out.

Georgia Anne Muldrow, "Killa Peach"

from this comp:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XSoD6FrsL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

also includes the aforementioned Flying Lotus

More Georgia being Georgia, this time on a track by producer Yameen called "Never Knows Best"

I need to look into this girl some more.

err, track is called "Spirit Walker" actually

gotta post one of my favorite J*Davey songs:

"No More" -- supersexy and I love the lyrics.. "I just wanna climb/ and leave some footprints on the wall"

Commix f/ Steve Space "How You Gonna Feel"

should read "Steve Spacek" blah

"can u eat my butt?"

only if i can spew it out on your face.

increase the peace

i'm goin' in

i just want to put "dollar" up here, because i fucking love that song

thankig u winston

Haven't had much of a chance to wander through youtube linkages, etc. But I finally gave the Foreign Exchange album a spin and whether or not it fits properly into this category, it's really something else.

Does the new Raphael Saadiq album have any place being mentioned on this thread? It's fucking fantastic; one of my favorite albums this year.

No.

Sorry to be condescending, but have you read the thread title or listened to anything posted in this thread?

I figured Leave It All Behind was fair game, given that it was brought up two or three times, and the prominence of Muhsinah on the album. Sorry.

Regardless, the highlight of a lot of it for me is the disconnect between the three-part harmonies, lush production and the almost mundane quality of some of the lyrics. (Not in a bad way...just...it's a lot of day-to-day details of relationships. Bringing you wings for yo' lunch break, and so forth.) Entrancing stuff.

Sorry, that was in reponce to nick's post, not yours. As far as I'm concerned, FE are fair game for this thread. I posted a couple of their tracks earlier. And your post is totally otm. One of the best albums of the year. I love how it captures both the mundanities and complexities of a relationship... and shows how they intertwine.

I also love how the Phonte vs female vocals are played against each other in unexpected ways throughout, avoiding cliched duet formats.

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah. I desperately need more stoned afrofuturist science-funktion in my life.

Need to give LIAB a few more spins before I can comment on more than the first impression of WOW.

Shit sorry man! FWIW I have listened to almost all of these posted on here, I own the Flying Lotus LA album and Georgia Anne Muldrow's Olesi Fragments on Earth. Whatever. Sorry.

Also I figured it fit in under the "maybe kinda pretentious" label but like I said sorry.

Naw, I should be the one apologizing. Sorry I was such a dick. And yeah, the Saadiq album is kinda pretentious in it's own way, but the emphasis I wanted is more on the out-thereness and experimentalism. (I might be undermining that with my pimping for Foreign Exchange, but they at least have a v. modern sound and run in these circles.) I just kinda had a "oh no!" moment because slavish retro-soul is pretty much 180 degrees away from what I wanted this this thread to be about. (Btw, how is Olesi?)

haha I am almost afraid to start seeking out the stuff on this thread I don't already know (i.e. most of it) simply because I'm trying to ease into '09 rather than keep digging into '08, but when I like this kind of stuff I like it a lot. thanks for starting it Rev! I'm looking fwd to seeing how it develops.

A good amount of the stuff in this thread predates the past year, and I have no idea what I'd be easing into in '09 anyway. It just feels like in the past couple months this sort of stuff has really captivated me.

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah.

There should be Muhsinah and Platinum Pied Pipers albums coming in the couple months. XD

what ive heard of the new ppp album is (not great) retro 60s soul. was never crazy about them in the first place but theyve done quite a turn around.

some of my favourite experimental R&B stuff from the past year or 2 are the tiombe lockheart tracks on the wajeed war album. really incredible. better than georgia anne any day ;)

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Just checked out this album and ^o^. It strikes me as an album that will take a while to unpack. "Elliptical" is my initial favorite.

xp: I still haven't heard any of the new PPP so judgement reserved. I still need to check out Lockhart.

DAMN Janelle Monae's unreleased Audition from 2003 smokes!

Especially:

Letting Go

My Favorite Nothing (despite its production being an obv Hey Ya knockoff)

Also, Sincerely, Jane from her 07 EP has caught me

"Letting Go" has been a favorite since it appeared on Big Boi's Got Purp? vol. 2 comp

I regret waiting so long to check it. It's my favorite song at the moment.

Another thing I love about the Foreign Exchange album: It totally captures that Aaliyah-style future-classy vibe.

I can't find it to post here, but Tiombe Lockhart and Bilal's duet "Strange" is very much worth checking out. It's built very minimally, mostly around a simple, unvarying string bass loop, and features Lockhart and Bilal, using phrasing that signifies jazz moreso than soul, completing each other's thoughts until they finally come together for the chorus. It is tremendously sweet.

anyone check out the new theo parrish single, "chemistry"? it's got om'mas from sa-ra and steve spacek on it, as well as plenty of other collaborators. i personally found it a little too jammy at first but it's seriously growing on me. also the new moodymann ep does a similar thing (all by himself) but even better i think. i linked to this on another thread, but i reviewed the moodymann here, if anyone's interested in checking out the house end of the spectrum on r&b experimentalism:
http://bassandsuperstructure.blogspot.com/2008/12/moody-detriot-67.html
unfortunately these are both only available on vinyl i think, but if you do vinyl seriously worth it.

^^^ I will be checking that out, as I'm currently playing Steve Spacek's 2005 album and is growing on me (in an Amp Fiddler way)

*****SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION*****

Wrote an article about Georgia Anne Muldrow here.

Since I've properly tagged "Strange" as being by Leron Thomas, anyone heard more from dude?

Curious if I should prioritize his Dirty Draws series.

and lol @ lastfm tagging Strange as featuring "Tiambe Lockhart"

I should probably get that whole Tiombe project that track comes from. Looks intersting.