Ashlee Simpson 'Bittersweet World'

Awesome.

This thread has nearly made me listen to some Ashlee. Not quite but v nearly.

you can fuck off too, stupid person

I'm trying to be supportive!

i would have so much more respect for the snarky dumb people who seem to have like a MAGNETIC attraction to ashlee simpson if they, like, had the slightest idea of what she sounded like

i'm trying to be nice

i think we're both failing

d/ling now.

but yeah, this goes for MOST OF YOU: fuck off until you've listened to ashlee! maybe you can try 'little miss obsessive' cuz it has the best chorus i have heard in like six years or something. not that i am holding a candle for you to produce thoughts of consequence afterwards but we may as well give this a try eh

ok i will take the lex challenge

ftr i haven't heard an ashlee simpson song since "boyfriend", which iirc i thought was a pretty good franz ferdinand song

i think 'little miss obsessive' sounds like paramore ballad fronted by a worse singer but i like them a lot so that's not exactly a slight-- chorus is good tho

sounds like a paramore ballad

less arch than franz ferdinand and therefore a million times better. also, aimed at lindsay lohan!

key to genius of 'little miss obsessive' = KARAOKE POTENTIAL

i think paramore are nearly good but i don't like the singer, she sounds like a smug(ger) avril

also she has annoying hair

"outta my head" is genuinely awesome tho. sounds like pylon trying to go disco or something. she definitely can play with her voice (i listened to "boyfriend" again before these two and i didn't pick up on how good her verses were) so i thought the background vocals coming in on the chorus of "little miss obsessive" were kinda muddy. the space they give her on "outta my head" works in her favor imo

sounds like pylon

Cripes, can we please keep the freakin' blasphemy to a minimum?

alex listen to the song

glad you're still reading this thread tho. otoh i didn't read you as a masochist.

Really?

well yea maybe you're right eppy

An Ashlee fan sez:

It's not so much joy at the thought that things aren't worse, but joy at the fact that things are exactly as bad as they are. How many songs on Autobiography contain lists of negatives? At least four -- "Pieces of Me," "Better Off," "Love Me for Me," "Autobiography" -- and they're all celebratory. The negatives are precisely what make her worth loving, or what make the situation so great. She's not joyful in spite of them, she's joyful because of them.

she sounds like a smug(ger) avril

"Misery Business" is "Sk8er Boi" with no sense of humor instead of a bad one. Never really clicked with Paramore, but I do think that "Little Miss Obsessive" sounds kind of...not imitative, but weak, like an approximation of what an older Ashlee song might sound like. But the chorus is appropriately beat-you-over-the-head catchy even though the verses are kind of lame.

"Misery Business" is "Sk8er Boi" with no sense of humor instead of a bad one.

i don't think emo is supposed to be humorous so this seems like a weak critique of that song-- if you don't like the chorus or w/e or you think the singer is smug that's cool but judging emo bands or songs on their humor is probably like judging tacos by their sweetness or something

Some emo doesn't have a sense of humor, but a lot of it clearly does, I think (all of the pop emo at least tries for a sense of humor, and I think Paramore comes more from this line of it than the more intentionally humorless stuff) and I think Paramore specifically kind of wants both at the same time...Avril (to the extent she's humorless) is just generally clueless.

Maybe Fall Out Boy is to emo as Choco Tacos are to tacos.

yeah maybe you're right, i just assume that girls like boys and cartel etc. are overly serious at least when it comes to music but i'm not exactly poring over lyric sheets

lol maybe

i like fall out boy a lot but they probably swing the humor pendulum a little too far the other way

she definitely can play with her voice

i think the sense of playfulness on bittersweet world is really key to why i love it so much - it could totally have been a botched self-conscious move away from her old sound (and full-on method of performing) (unlike frank i way prefer i am me to autobiography - at its best it's so towering and visceral) (like WHOA 'eyes wide open' and the title track! like, totally c-love)

anyway yeah it coulda been botched, and i did go through similar phases to dave when i first heard 'outta my head' - 1) catchy tune but not right for her voice at all, surely just a demo; 2) can't get it out of my head; 3) hey her goofy mannerisms actually really work; 4) damn fine pop song - but idk i think the way she sounds as if she's about to crack up laughing throughout half these songs is just really good to listen to. she sounds as though she had loads of fun making the album (and she's funny, too, which helps. "i got a BOYFRIEND, we like to FIGHT A LOT. we got a lot in common: he thinks i FUCKING ROCK.") (nb 'rule breaker' is hilarious but as suspected 'ragdoll', despite being less quotable, is the better song and the one i return to more.)

uh sorry for shouting drunkenly last nite, y'all deserved it upthread when i was actually sober, contra mdc's assumption, but i was just taking out annoyance at some other lame threads i saw and didn't want to dignify with my presence. miller is still laaaaame and boring though.

Nah, it's good to have the drunken Lex back.

I listened to some of this on the tube this morning but the bits that didn't remind me of Gwen reminded me of Hazel O'Connors more uptempo tracks from the Breaking Glass soundtrack and neither of those float my boat.

The version I have just has a big gap in the I fucking rock bit where the swear is which was a little disconcerting.

some people just ain't cut out for HARDMAN status

-- gershy, Sunday, 14 October 2007 19:11 (7 months ago) Bookmark Link

wtf at ilx: gershy gone, blount and lex back?

the parallels with the tory resurgence are to obvious to point out.

big gap in the I fucking rock bit where the swear is

When did they start doing this, having NO available version where you can actually hear someone say "fuck"? Ruins one of the best lines on the Britney album, too ("just save your foolishness and fuckery I'm handlin' my bidness"). In the liner notes, they don't even print the swear words, or acknowledge there's an edit -- it just says "we got a lot in common and he thinks I rock."

Fuck this bulshit from a hater.

resembles the sound of an abattoir for Tamagotchis

brilliant.

That's a good piece of writing, whether I agree with it or not.

I mean it makes me want to listen to it.

Then it went off the rails drastically. We started becoming obsessed with meta.

backsliding!

I really don't like this, there's a half decent pop record lurking in there somewhere but the whole stiffness of the sound really bugs me. There's a decent pop record lurking in there somewhere but it's like all personality has been systematically sanded away.

There's a richness in her voice in Boys that's just totally lacking elsewhere. If she sounds this bored how can she expect anyone else to be entertained?

Matt did you ever hear I Am Me? A much better record in my opinion.

I don't think I've gone back to Bittersweet World since I last posted to this thread.

this is easily the ashlee simpson album i've returned to least but "boys" is such a fantastic summer jame

*jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObXc526xPuI

never liked that 1

tracks i come back to on this:

little ms obsessive
bittersweet world
outta my head
nvr dream alone

love this album, albeit less than her previous two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiW824jkzXk

soooo huge. the verses are so moody and perfect

AM I THE REASON WHY YOU TOSSED
AND TURNED
LAST NIGHT

& she never fails with the closing ballad. "never dream alone" is jaw-dropping.

the backgrounded vocals <3

nights will come and go...
you'll never dream alone...

"murder" is a riot

would argue there's not an actively poor song on any of her albums

"little miss obsessive" is def the standout, it's just less summery and so less...today

autobiography / love makes the world go round / better off / LOVE ME FOR ME / boyfriend / coming back for more / dancing alone / catch me when i fall / i am me / eyes wide open / outta my head / boys / little miss obsessive

those are the 10/10 all-timers imo

shadow + la la is the best 1-2 punch in history

http://www.ashleesimpsonmusic.com/

am i really the first person to post about this? what has happened to our borad

(i like this btw)