CHRIS BROWN

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Excellent.

not praiseworthy imho

like I probably woulda lolled at it if I had seen it live, and I still basically "agree" with it, but watching that video after seeing all these ppl praising it made me legitimately uncomfortable

well then you kinda need to rethink yr priorities here imo - this is an unrepentant dickhead who can just soak up how much everybody hates his ass now, when he decides to grow up it'll stop

aero did you watch the video

do you really think those people were laughing out of sympathy for rihanna

because to me it kinda comes across as: Keith Olbermann - Dubya + Chris Brown + gallery of guffawing jackals

(I will admit that the gif is much 'better', and if I had seen it before watching the video I woulda been like "yeah right on!")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjUKwoHUyw

yeahhhhhh the laughing in the background makes it a pretty uncomfortable and the part about the female members of team breezy is problematic but that dude > chris brown

it's weirder to me that the split-screen initially gives the impression that there's two guys sat next to each other but communicating as if in two different places

(pedantry @ teenage twitter users in the clip above nagl)

yeah I watched the video. Chris Brown's a fucking joke so it's great that people laugh at him, the more the better.

xpost to kev: yeah, my objection is not at all "leave breevy alone!"—a dude on tumblr put it better than I could:

Kansas City Shuffle; Make a joke about an instance of domestic abuse (look left), and when people are getting angry about your tastelessness declare that the joke was actually an attempt to raise awareness and shame the attacker (hit right).

no i know i get you

yeah the meagre degree of creepiness is offset by the scornworthiness of the target. also, "a joke about domestic abuse" is an intentional mischaracterization of the dude's joke. dude's joke is "you're a person who hits women." the target of the joke is the domestic abuser - not the same as mocking domestic abuse.

I agree with you 100% that Chris Brown deserves far more scorn than he has thus far received from the media, and that *any* kind of criticism is better than the "pretend-it-didn't-happen, business-as-usual" attitude; and obviously a lot of the public feels that way, too, judging by the response to this meme. I'm just kinda bummed that our public discourse has degenerated to the point where it takes a clown to say these things.

i think the vid w/ laughing is uncomfortable, but aero's totally right about how the original joke should be interpreted ... ppl werent getting angry at his 'tastelessness' tumblr dude offtm

ftr I didn't realize that there was an actual video that went with that; my reaction is solely based off of the GIF

and tbh I did laugh when reading the GIF, in the sense of "HAHAHA YES SOMEONE IS CALLING CHRIS BROWN ON HIS SHIT IN ABOUT AS CRUEL A MANNER AS CAN BE DONE"

xpost I don't see how you can say no one was angry about the joke—otherwise where did the whole 'apology' conceit come from?

as far as I can tell, here's the timeline:

- Chris Brown tweets some dumb shit about planking
- comedian Andy Levy sees the opportunity for a good zinger and takes it
- TEAM BREEZY rallies to the defense of their imperiled hero; Brown, in a hilarious example of "the only insults I know are the ones people have used against me", calls Levy childish
- **HIGHLY SPECULATIVE** some Fox higher-up takes offense and asks Levy to apologize/retract his tweet? **HIGHLY SPECULATIVE**
- Levy doubles down w/ this (admittedly, pretty good) rant about the boneheaded obliviousness of Brown (duh) and his contingent of hardcore fans (double-duh)

but since we all agree that Chris Brown is awful, really the only thing that interests me about the whole affair is seeing whether or not people feel that being a Chris Brown fan/apologist automatically makes one awful as well

his music is not good enough to make me overlook how terrible a person he is and I think less of everyone currently working with him

the moment djp lost his respect for biebs

bernard the ppl asking for him to apologize werent offended by it being 'tasteless' they think that chris brown should be forgiven

i dont think the #teambreezy twitterers were like, "i cant believe hes making light of abuse!"

lol schlump

xposts yeah that's fair—it's like, as much as I enjoy Busta Rhymes's verse on "Look At Me Now" + the comeback it has ignited for him, I can't help wishing he and every other competent rapper contacted by the Breezy camp had gone "no, fuck you, I refuse to get on this track"

D-40 otm

bernard the ppl asking for him to apologize werent offended by it being 'tasteless' they think that chris brown should be forgiven

― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, August 22, 2011 5:17 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

It's p obvious even from the original tweet that he wasn't condoning domestic abuse.

Fox News, like most major news outlets, is chock full of horrible douchebags; this does not automatically mean that every last thing anyone who ever appears on one of their shows has to say is nefariously wrong.

Team Breezy is easily the most ignorant and self-deluded pack of cretins on twitter.

a bold assertion Nicole, it's a crowded field

Fox News, like most major news outlets, is chock full of horrible douchebags; this does not automatically mean that every last thing anyone who ever appears on one of their shows has to say is nefariously wrong.

that they have a rolling news ticker, however, means they have an outlet to make sure that every frame of their output is somehow objectionable, even if there's something placid going on mid-screen

not gonna argue against that

It's p obvious even from the original tweet that he wasn't condoning domestic abuse.

― Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, August 22, 2011 5:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I agree with bernard here, I mean obviously everyone hates Chris Brown - I get it - but Fox news dude was still a giant asshole and the video wasn't very funny

I'm Team Aero on this one. No matter how douchey the messenger, anyone that publicly calls out Chris Brown for being the awful human being that he is is straight up hilarious to me.

really jon? like if some guy doing an interview with Chris Brown decided to go "hey Breezy, I gotta ask you something... I've been having some problems with my girl lately, and I was wondering how much it would cost to have you rough her up a bit for me"—obviously Chris Brown would get really angry/offended and probably storm out of the interview, and a lot of people would lol about it on the internet later; but would we really think that the guy asking the question was some kind of brave crusader riding for justice?

the video was awful, the tweet was LMAO

Oh come on bernard, have fun building yr strawman there. That is obviously not at all what I'm saying.

Someone using a public soapbox to remind the world that Chris Brown is an asshole /= to an imagined face-to-face confrontation urging him to violence.

xpost well then I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying!

oh I should specify that I was imagining a live on-air radio interview, I guess that makes a difference

and can we please keep in mind that the dude we are talking about is a COMEDIAN who made a joke about Chris Brown (a couple tweets after "you mean punching?" he responds to Anthony[of Opie & Anthony fame]'s joking accusation that he ripped off another Twitter user's joke with "mine was better")

I'm not sure why what I said is difficult to parse, I think its funny (and, you know, kind of necessary considering how little of a hit his career seems to have taken) when someone uses their public outlet to remind the world that he is, in fact, an unrepentant asshole. Thats a whole different situation than sitting down, in person, with Chris Brown and using inflammatory language in the hopes of provoking him.

the only thing I was trying to convey with my example was that I do not see anything inherently virtuous about using "an unrepentant asshole" to get lols.

I am all for speaking truth to power, but someone needs to go after a slightly-less-easy target than Chris Brown before I will applaud their moral courage.

that vid creeped me out so much -- i know his target isn't victims of DV, but he's clearly using the topic as opportunistically as he can, hoisting himself up on a pedestal of immediate respect and agreement by tackling chris brown the easiest target alive. he gains his upper hand by eliciting chuckles about DV, and it's all about him and his rightness and chris brown's wrongness and none of it is about rihanna. like, i have serious trouble believing that he went on air with his rant and actually thought to himself "rihanna would totally dig this!" maybe he's delusional enough to think that she would see him as her white knight and that she would happily thank him for his bravery, but it doesn't take much logic to find it more likely that a victim of DV might not be happy with a random political commentator using her trauma to gain public sympathy points (for himself, not her). he used her story as a hook for a comedy routine, not as an act of compassion.

the fact that this is fox news has nothing to do with it, i would be much more disappointed if it were a decent lib commentator. i'm guessing fox news hasn't really ever taken a stand against chris brown (if he were white, maybe) and let's not fool ourselves into thinking that every single obvious topic is reported contrary to what everyone else would say.

i mean i definitely believe chris brown should get shunned and ridiculed daily by everyone who might have some sort of influence on the public, but this isn't the way to do it and i'm not about to be on some "eh close enough" shit

So we are just basically saying that comedians aren't allowed to call out assholes for being assholes? I mean, that seems to be the common thrust here, that he was using this to "boost his career". If thats so, then I call bullshit. Do we then have to say that TMZ shouldn't stoop to be reporting domestic violence? Because, lets be real here, TMZ isn't reporting this out of some altruistic savior thing, they are trying to generate hits and boost their revenue.