Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

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this was a great thread! cut n pasted emails from the angry samoans!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening to the title track on repeat for weeks--I can't think of a more perfect song.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

i actually made a little def leppard playlist the other day

1. photograph
2. animal
3. now
4. armageddon it
5. hysteria

all of those songs are catchy, melodic, and even get me nostalgic

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
can't stop listening to deluxe edition.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

How are the extra tracks on it?

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I had never heard any of the b-sides so I'm still getting into them. Of the live tracks, there's a cool Alice Cooper cover and there's a bit on Rock of Ages where Joe starts singing lyrics to all kinds of shit - Not Fade Away, My Generation, Radar Love, Come Together, Whole Lotta Love...
The remixes are weird - mostly dicking around with the vocals - but fun to listen to.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and "Release Me" is completely insane.

Stumpus Maximus is, in fact, the band's tour manager Malvin Mortimer, and "The Good Ol' Boys" are Def Leppard. It's not a regular version of the old Engelbert Humperdinck song. With every verse, Stumpus is singing higher, until the end when he does nothing but screaming. It was meant as a joke, and was released as the B-side of the "Rocket" single and other singles.

Malvin became somewhat of a celebrity in '88 when some DJ's in Greece began playing the b-side instead of the usual A-side.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Beautiful. I need to get this, keep forgetting it's out now! Maybe this weekend...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

funny... i just listened to this the other night (the original not the re-issue).
the only thing I could think of was how much they sounded like New Kids on the Block (esp. the background vox).

tk (tk), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

uh

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
can't stop listening to deluxe edition.

Yes. (Now that I finally have it too.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

And "Gods of War" still remains unnervingly prescient.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's still crap, peoples. LIFT YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SOMA-TROUGH YOU'VE BEEN CHAINED TO AND SMELL THE BURNING FLESH OF YOUR FORMER OPPRESSORS!! IT'S OKAY NOT TO ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG! HYSTERIA DOES NOT ROCK!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahahaah....in my ridiculous rush to reclaim my title as needlessly hostile hyperbole-spewer, I managed to completely fuck that up. It's okay not to admit?

I'm an idiot.

Whatever. Hysteria doesn't hold a candle to Pyromania. That is all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I still like High 'N' Dry best, though I would agree with Alex that Pyromania is a better album. There is something about the sound of High 'N' Dry - Mutt Lange hadn't quite nailed the glossy formula for the guitars, and it is much more reminiscent of the Highway To Hell production style than the boomy processing that overwhelms the songs on Hysteria. Plus it sounds like actual drums dammit! The horrible drums on Pyromania and Hysteria still grate on me, twenty years on.

So Hysteria: dud for production, classic for the actual songs, and doesn't vaguely measure up to the preceding two albums.

EZ Snappin (EZSnappin), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Alex in NYC OTM. I have never understood the appeal of this record. I was as much into heavy and lite metal as any teenaged boy in the late 1980's, but I even knew then how soapy Hysteria was. With all respect due to Dan Perry, who knows more about the intricacies of music and voice than I, but when someone says something like "This is one of the few albums from the hair-metal era that I like," that should tell you something about how tepid this rock record is.

And all these weird CoolEdited, Pro-Tooled, compressed rock records from Nickelback and P.O.D. that get released these days can all trace their family tree back to this record. God bless Rick Allen for having heart in the face of adversity, but a one-armed man does not belong on the drummer's stool for a rock record. I've got factory preset drumtracks on my cheap four-track at home that have more soul than Rick Allen's drumming.

And keep in mind that I LIKE Def Leppard.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

EMBRACE THE CYBORG.

The fact that, as is noted above, the design theme of the album appears to have been Tron just makes it all the cooler.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Shoulda been called Hysterical.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever. Hysteria doesn't hold a candle to Pyromania. That is all.

alex totes OTM....pyromania is a better pop record AND a better hard rock record than hysteria. better singles, mo' rockin' jointz.

high n' dry is hella underrated too.

i've never heard on thru the night, but i'm afraid it can't live up to that huge guitar haulin' big rig cover.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Matt, PP, Alex OTM.

Pyromania is the only good reason to love Def Leppard. Maybe High 'n' Dry. I can see the kitsch/horror appeal of Hysteria (and the appeal is VAST, don't get me wrong), but I'm perfectly happy to let other people enjoy those terrible laffs.

Plus the associations are bad. When people who annoy me sober get drunk, they seem to LOVE THE SHIT out of Hysteria. Bro slapping, titty-shaking purgatory. Makes it hard to join the hug circle.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

You people.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

you not?

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Me cyborg, as noted.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not saying hysteria is bad, but to me pyromania is the bomp.

rock of ages, photograph, foolin', too late for love, etc etc

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

haha the BOMB, but maybe "the bomp" is better actually.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

it's kinda too bad they didn't save bringing on the heartache for pyromania though, that was the amazing powerballad that one was missing.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I maintain that (for me) the main prob with Hysteria is the utter lack of any actual honest-to-Angus Young RIFFS. If it indeed was, as rumoured, created entirely in the studio by samplers etc., I'd appreciate it more - "in theory" anyways, as an interesting experiment. (I've honestly never devoted any thought to how much different it would've sounded if Rick Allen had still had all his limbs. That's probably worth pondering.)

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

If it indeed was, as rumoured, created entirely in the studio by samplers etc., I'd appreciate it more - "in theory" anyways, as an interesting experiment.

Specifically addressing that, David Fricke's liner notes for the reissue indicate that nearly all the songs were not only written well in advance of the final recording but had been gone through live in studio at least a few times. (I have to say I actually think he did a great job on these liner notes in particular -- it's the best accounting of the album I've read yet.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

GOT THE REISSUE HOLY SHIT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

Considering that myself. But the original sounded pretty good (was a digital recording after all) and they should have reissued "Pyromania" at first.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:57 (eighteen years ago)

I heard...or, rather, saw the video, for "Animal" recently, and it completely cemented my argument. Hysteria is poop (and no amount of re-mastering/re-tweaking will save it).

Alex in NYC, Friday, 1 February 2008 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

"Animal" is nowhere near the best song on Hysteria, you madman.

HI DERE, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's my favorite, but "Gods of War" (which, holy christ, after the remix sounds like Front 242) and "Rocket" nip at its heels.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

"Animal" is nowhere near the best song on Hysteria, you madman.

That's akin to saying that it's not the stinkiest turd in the septic tank. POOP IS POOP.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 1 February 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

No it isn't!

HI DERE, Friday, 1 February 2008 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yes it is!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1721346/2/istockphoto_1721346_kids_fighting.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

REVIVE:

Vindifuckincation: In John Sellers' new memoir, Perfect From Now On: How Indie Rock Saved My Life, the scribe says....

I'd deemed Hysteria the most disappointing album of all time, and it still might be: next to Pyromania it is an overproduced, castrated, one-armed bore.

Fuckin' AMEN!

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 22 March 2008 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

The songs are strong, but it's all too glossy and sterile-sounding. It's too bad, because Def Leppard had a really good sense of melody among the hair-metal bands.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 22 March 2008 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

"C'mon, Steve!"

Terrible Cold, Saturday, 22 March 2008 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

martin popoff famously rated this 0 out of 10 in his much esteemed guide to heavy metal!!!

Charlie Howard, Monday, 24 March 2008 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

Who the fuck is John Sellers?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/JohnSellers-1961SICover.jpg/445px-JohnSellers-1961SICover.jpg
Gunter glieben glauchen globen!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

I watched the Hysteria episode of Classic Albums last night and I've got even more respect for it now. The detail with which this thing was crafted is mindboggling. I never knew the cut up backwards vocal bits in "Rocket" were actually the choruses of "Gods of War" and "Love Bites".

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I need to watch that -- only just learned the whole series was on Netflix Instant, friend Stripey said it was a stellar episode.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:29 (fourteen years ago)

There's a bit where Phil is talking about how Mutt brought the song "Love Bites" to the band as a country ballad he'd written, and proceeds to demonstrate the opening verse in that style. IT ALL CLICKS NOW. It really is a country song run through the Def Leppard machine.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 May 2012 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I really love that Classic Albums ep. the Love Bits cutups were a nice surprise.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 May 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

BITES ragh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 May 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

Happy 25th birthday! Released August 3, 1987.

Adrien wrote a great piece about it today:

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/headbang-blogpost.aspx?post=b9f0d5a5-25ec-4d1f-b9bc-c6e30e0ed424

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 August 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Though it's not my favorite Def Leppard album, goddamn it's a a beauty.

There's not a bad song on it! Well, I mean 'Don't shoot shotgun' is kinda *shrug* but it's not horrible and all things considered it doesn't interrrupt the flow of the album at all. You can listen to this whole thing and rock out the whole time.

bless their poppy little hearts

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)


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