POLL LOTTA LOVE - ILM Artist Poll #6 - Led Zeppelin

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ah yes, the enigmatic "question mark" post...a perennial fave

sorry, jk

Most days, In Through The Out Door is my favorite Zep record. I definitely prefer the last four to the first four, but it's not like the have a bad album.

I wish they'd release a follow-up to How The West Was Won that focuses on the later tours. There are some great boots from the mid to late 70s and I think Page really shortchanges their live legacy by ignoring it.

Ballot count stands at 12

Soon to be 13, gimme a sec.

sent via webmail, lmk if that works for ya

Got it, thx!

fascinating: http://www.last.fm/music/Led+Zeppelin/+tracks

don't think it's giving anything away to say some of my top 10 ain't even in the top 50

if you start at the bottom and move up, then you're lookin at a potential 20...thanks for the link, food for thought

Since I've Been Loving You! Oh man, how can I have forgotten so many? It's my favourite thing from The Song Remains The Same.

voted for one of the top 10

Ha, voting for three of those top 10 and three of those bottom 10. Good spread!

52 Dust In The Wind 24,417

lol?

more listens than "The Rover" btw

I had The Rover on this morning. It's one of my favourites on PG, but I just can't shake off a feeling of half-assedness about it, like much of the rest of that album. I'm probably being really unfair and they slaves for months, but a sprawling double, using old offcuts, and the shoddy sleeve has always put me off.

PG would've been a great album if they added a couple of tracks from that onto Houses (such as 'Houses of The Holy' and 'The Rover') -- but yeah except with some standouts (how come no one has mentioned 'Down By The Seaside'?) sides three and four are spotty.

I should qualify the first statement by saying I do think PG is a great album, but it could have been even better.

lol thanks to this thread I bought like 5 Zep albums off of iTunes last night

maybe I should have gotten the $100 all-in enchilada but I didn't really want the live albums

<3 the rover tbh. rarely get to discs 3/4

Through "Ten Years Gone" (& oh! at that song, so lovely; Plant's come so far as a vocalist) PG is excellent. It's haphazard after that, sort of their half of a White Album.

i made a playlist of physical graffiti without the b-sides and it fucking cooks

of course i lost "down by the seaside" and "night flight" in doing that

which are the b-sides of which you speak?

the songs they appended to the record to make it a double album, which were all leftovers from previous sessions.

but which songs are those?

leftovers: "the rover," "houses of the holy," "bron-yr-aur," "down by the seaside," "night flight," "boogie with stu," "black country woman"

Love "Black Country Woman."

ok, cool! I just don't know much about the genesis of this album. I like all those songs! might even vote for "Bron-Yr-Aur", which a friend in hs spent many hours trying to learn to play before figuring out that it's two guitars double-tracked & so not the kind of thing he could ever play.

I don't think I like Presence very much, having now relistened. I love "Nobody's Fault But Mine" but otherwise the album makes my head hurt with its starts & stops & rhythm changes---which I get that a lot of you really dig & that's cool! but those are not my kind of hooks.

Plus "Tea For One" is the most boring of epic Zep blues jams.

i love all of the leftovers they put on physical graffiti but take them away and you basically have the hardest led zeppelin album: "custard pie," "in my time of dying," "trampled underfoot," "kashmir," "in the light," "ten years gone," "the wanton song," "sick again"

Couple more have rolled in.

Josh in Chi: any albums or least-liked?

Aw, I like Tea For One. It is kind of boring, but it really spoke to me when I was 18 for some reason. It should be 'mashed up' with Chic's Soup For One, if that hasn't happened already.

Presence was my first Zep album I think, courtesy of Melody Maker's Unknown Pleasures book. I remember an image there of Bonham's drums being moored out at sea on that track, which I liked a lot.

xpost Nah, I like everything. Even the occasional bit of crap tends to work in context.

I did this manually, and it made me insane recreating the original album song orders one by one. is there some magical way that you sorted the box sets back into their original order?

Not really magical, just went one by one and cleaned up the metadata for each track so that it was labelled as being on the original album in the original order. It was kind of a pain in the ass, but I preferred to listent to them that way.

maybe I should have gotten the $100 all-in enchilada but I didn't really want the live albums

Not sure which live albums iTunes is including with that "all-in" thing, but they are crucial if it includes How the West Was Won and the BBC Sessions. West singlehandedly renewed my love for Zeppelin when it came out and made me realize how stupid I had been to ignore them just because I thought I'd "heard enough".

man, the guitar solo on the rover is just really a good guitar solo

expected some more "achilles" talk. fave deep cut, fave of the epics, and a strong contender for overall fave. also covered it in my high school band. ;-)

this is 100% otm btw:
Page's engineering of Bonham's drumming is some sort of genius. Always such clarity and space.

not to take anything away from bonham. dude was great. but god, the drums SOUND amazing on these records.

I know I ref'd this upthread but have always thought this was Page's low point as a guitarist. the solo is so sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um6eNkswv3g

At one point I went through all the links in Wikipedia to learn about each song. I was perhaps most impressed by the technical recording details of "When the Levee Breaks:"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Levee_Breaks#Led_Zeppelin_version

Per Page the guitarist, I was always amazed that the same dude that could record the perfect barrage of notes on "Good Times, Bad Times" could record the slop-city solo on "Heartbreaker" on the very next record. I mean, it's better than I could ever dream of being, but I've never been able to listen to it without thinking of Nigel's ridiculous solo in "Spinal Tap."

Well the song is as much of a throwaway as the solo. I think they cut the piano off midnote at 3:10.

Hot Dog, that is.

So I have my "short" list narrowed down to 30 songs and the breakdown per album looks like this:

I - 4 songs
II - 2 songs
III - 3 songs
IV - 3 songs
Houses - 4 songs
Graffiti - 6 songs
Presence - 2 songs
In Through the Out Door - 3 songs
Coda/B-sides - 3 songs

admirably spread out -- mine definitely won't be that even

I think Page was going for intentionally loose/sloppy on "Hot Dog," and that that was kind of a misunderstanding of rockabilly/early rock and roll.

Yeah, the "Hot Dog" solo is kind of ass, the best parts are when he comes close to the main riff.

expected some more "achilles" talk. fave deep cut, fave of the epics, and a strong contender for overall fave. also covered it in my high school band. ;-)

Love it. Made my top 5. Speaking of the brilliance that is Presence, I wish I'd included "Hots On For Nowhere" on my ballot. Probably my all-time favorite Page solo.

Led Zeppelin recorded its version of the song in December 1970 at Headley Grange, where the band used the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio. The song had earlier been tried unsuccessfully by the band at Island Studios at the beginning of the recording sessions for their fourth album.[4]

man, this is the shit that breaks my heart. because in the second sentence lies part of the answer about why music's pretty different now. LZ scrapped probably several days' worth of studio time on this jam because they didn't think it was working. those several days = $$$. bands really don't have that luxury any more. they can do it in pre-production in a cheap studio or at their homes or whatever, but the idea of actually spending the good studio dollar to explore whether one approach is working (or whether one [on the clock, paid] producer is working, or whether one physical space is working, etc): that's a dream from the past. unless you're utterly massive, your single venture into the studio to make the album is going to produce the definitive & for-the-record version of the song for better or worse; nobody has the scratch to do multiple tries in multiple studios, but there are plenty of stories from the legendary acts of trying a song over & over to try to get to the heart of it.

yeah "Achilles" is amazing

Ballot sent (to myself). That was really hard!

- One song which I really hated 30 years ago made my top 5.
- Several favorites from back then were easy cuts.
- Swear to god, "The Crunge" barely missed my ballot.

can't wait to work on my ballot over the weekend...II love The Crunge too btw)

i said recently that if you don't like "the crunge" or "d'yer mak'er" then you're an asshole

not true at all, definitely, but still