read that as "BADASSGASM" at first
― dell (del), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
Hahahaha BASSTHOVEN
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
Also don't get why they've gone for a grindcore font.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
i've met nerdy crunchy d&b dudes and they are still dudes. and kinda clueless about anything other than a really narrow area of boring stuff. maybe they aren't fratboys or whatever. i dunno. the common thread is a love for tedious dance music.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
(not serato)
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
i would have more fun with the king of dudes in indiana probably. at least he likes house music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ToILoeut44
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
Master's Thesis level shit below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgAUCbYIqTQ
There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
someone put up a good example of brostep. i'm willing to be swayed. i'm pretty dumb.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
Comments like this make me want to love brostep: "There is true artistic dubstep like James Blake and Burial, while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble." (from that youtube video's comment field)
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg&feature=related
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
"I kinda took it there, and now everybody else has taken it too far. It's not heavy metal!"
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"
― swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
I want to see someone take Scott up on his request and post a good brostep track...
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vWQFHP3D0
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
"while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble."
There's something in this that rings true for any producer in the "hardcore continuum." I suppose it's just tacky when it's a decade late, middlebrow and American.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 05:52 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link
Brostep lyrics transcribed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDTzgpkBZyw
(do not watch if you have photosensitive epilepsy or a nervous disposition)
― misty sensorium (Plasmon), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
When I was growin' up in the '80s sometimes I'd drop in to the music store and check out the new synths I couldn't afford. There was always somebody already there playing the keyboard I was trying to get at, testing out its new sounds. Invariably, the guy sounded like he just learned to play. Invariably, a large chunk of time would go by before he'd give me or anyone else a chance to play.
That guy always sounded exactly like the first 60 seconds of that Magnetic Man track....
― Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep
Case for brostep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j53mfWs8JlE
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
This kind of shit is 99% of why I am hesitant to even venture near anyone local djing. More often than not, it's going to be dnb that tries to be haaaaard, brostep-style antics, or in the rare instance, fist-pumping trance-like stuff.
― mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
so this magnetic man shit can be summed up as "lol @ first drug experiences"?
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up
― jaxon, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
need a latepass to the brostep party, not sure if he's relevant here but I just heard my first Deadmau5 track ("I Remember" Caspa rmx) and I gotta say it's fucking garbage, jesus, so lame
at least the "philthy wobble" bits of Skrillex are fun in a trashy way, though the autotune vox bits are just terrible buzzkill garbage
I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing, never predicted the birth of full on attention seeking "Dubstep Anthems" with bad diva vox and ecstatic fast synth rush bits and trance elements but I guess the dancefloors of the world and the highstreet shops have been full of comps of this kinda thing for quite a while
yikes
a lot of this sounds like stupid people drawing inspiration from the wrong aspects of Daft Punk, pouring on the softsynth tutorials from issues of FutureMusic magazine, and ta-da, brostep is served
is this brostep y/n?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-wxhFt8Vf4
― the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
youtube thesis guy should sample his ceiling fan
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing
ha ha yeah this is NOT a direction i ever would have expected dubstep to go back when i was listening to and not really enjoying tempa compilations in 2003.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
"lol @ first drug experiences"?
otm
― Aerosol, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
then again i never expected american urban radio to sound like a 2001 mixmag cover-mount cd ten years later so
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
even kardinal offishall is making whooshy trance-step "club bangers" now :(
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
There are actually some really good tracks on the Magnetic Man album but only when they pretty much abandon dubstep altogether.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Post Magnetic Man a lot of the poppy stuff sounds surprisingly perky. Brastep?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qORbkqdD58g
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
have to say, listening to max martin eurorave beats in the woods of massachusetts a couple weeks ago at a miranda cosgrove show was kinda inspiring. so, in theory, ancient lumpenprole rave sounds can work for me. heck, i love the new britney album. but most of this neu-dubstep is just as boring as most regular dubstep to me.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
If I listen to the SBTRKT and Nero albums am I going to hate myself and feel slightly soiled afterwards?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Master's Thesis level shit belowThere's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.
? Clarke B., lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:07 (Yesterday) Bookmark
? swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark
i'm dying
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
― scott seward, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:32 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
i don't know, people everywhere seem to be jumping at the chance to get in on it. coincidentally where at?
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like this is revenge on all of us who were bitching circa 2003/2004 that dubstep needed to be "more pop."
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
either that or revenge on me bitching ca. 1999 to anyone who would listen that 2-step needed to be "more electro"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Haha we all get the music we deserve.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Around 2004-05 I was arguing that indie bands should embrace other styles of music and take production cues from house, techno and R&B and that's probably the single worst call I have ever made.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ Brastep
I think this also belongs on this thread, as I think it's perhaps the "best" pop/autotune/diva/brostep/brastep jam I've heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOri_2FLVEI
― the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
i think maybe the united kingdom should just take a break from dance music for a couple of years. take a bank holiday to brighton. soak up the soggy rays. read a good book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
We pretty much already did that from 2003-2006 except some arseholes took advantage of the lull to sneak dubstep through.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
nothing sadder than when i get a big box of records in at the store and its full of completely unloveable downtempo acid jazz illbient jungle garage dubtronica. ugh.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
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― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
:'(
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
brastrap
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
love when i get a bunch of Loading Bay singles though. love that stuff! gotta catch them all! hi-nrg golden girls theme song my new fave.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
tim, i'll get around to it. i'm always about 5 or 10 years behind. i get to everything eventually.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, I didn't ask the guy personally what his deal with the playlist was (if this thread was last week, I could have gone to his panel at mutek and done so, but..) throwing a bunch of stuff that is really meatheaded and of-the-moment on a playlist seems just goofy to me
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
ugh do i really have to pick a side of either yon brosteppers or the minimal crowd? where's the plank i'll just walk that instead
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sorry, it's brostep or nothing. But if you pick brostep you get a complimentary Korn album
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, it's not about choosing sides, surely. Not for us anyway.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
I would say though, a dude like Nicholas Jaar might be better served than to draw attention to the tastefulness of his music (I also can't believe we're now discussing this)...
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
idk if that's the point
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
unless your fetish for this music is that it's not "tasteful"
I mean, there have been pretty intellectual dudes making flat-out crazy and silly dance music forever, but there are also total meatheads. I don't know that intellect or "good/bad" taste come into it from a one-off joke
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
like... could Jaar have been POKING FUN AT HIMSELF by posting that?
There's so many possibilities :)
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
idk, being 22 years old and being near a college campus sounds like it'd be a way to get tired of bros and brostep pretty fast
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
In any case, this isn't criticism of Jaar (I own some of his records, if that matters to you). But I do think the chart was weird. If its a sign of his own insecurities or a plea for laughs, he went for this genre either way. And honestly, I'm starting to regret linking to that chart...
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
given the way that 'brostep' is dealt with by music journalists as a joke, as annoying, as noisy, trashy, cheap, as something that the kids are into, etc. But some of these tracks are really great, I can totally hear echoes of things I LOVE in them, like hardcore and breakbeat house - early Prodigy and XL stuff, Hyper-On Experience, etc
early XL stuff and Prodigy and the like were also cheap and things the kids were into and there were undoubtedly old people bitching about them then, with some of the critical olds occasionally saying they were ok
big obvious things that lots of young people like are always mocked, nothing new to see here
― mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
Well, yeah. That's sort of what I'm getting at, except for that final part of there nothing new to see here. It's both a return and mutation of rave aesthetics.
And there's another possibility, of course, that the Jaar list is genuine endorsement! ;)
― MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
Carnival madness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBg-_6yXP9k&feature=related
This has been an interesting revive (though it's played havoc on my last.fm stats oh dear, I'm going to blame that on the hacking, shall I? It can't possibly be me listening to all that Doctor P and SKisM and terrible, terrible things.)
I started looking at this stuff because I accidentally fell in love with a track I suspect to be Brostep-ish, I know to be objectively horrible, and yet I still have become completely obsessed with. And my question was kind of "HOW the fuck did this genre get from X to Y?" (Being someone who only really pays attention when a breakout single from a genre crosses over enough to be ubiquitous.) Where X was probably Night by Benga & Coki and Y was someone saying "well, Full Attention is probably a better fusion of that Dubstep-Pop sound than Britney Spears" when I liked *both* Full Attention and Femme Fatale.
I suppose it's a cliche to find genres interesting either 1) when they haven't fully coalesced yet and they're still quite wide open or 2) when they're so overblown (in a floral sense) and past their prime that they start to totally disintegrate.
But listening to this stuff is the same sense I get sifting through freakbeat/garage pop nuggets from the 60s. That when a genre is this big, this crossed-over/successful and this *active* that due to sheer volume there is going to be some of it that is actually really interesting - especially when the whole hook to the genre is "let's make the freakiest, most fucked-up sounding wacky carnival of sounds using a mass produced version of new technology." Maybe Fruity-Loops is to this kinda music what Vox was to the 60s or the cheap digital delay was to the 90s. If not just dozens or hundreds but thousands of people hear a sound on pop radio or clubs and try to recreate it, with varying degrees of success or mutation, 99% of it might be garbage but the 1% that turns out to be Voices Green And Purple or Sweet Shop is going to make it worth digging through.
But I'm so far removed from this, I don't have to deal with context or bros. (Or S Reynolds unless someone on ILX links to him.) For me, it's just seeing someone on twitter complaining about "wub-step" and me going "hang on, WUB is my favourite sound in the world, are you saying there's WUB in it now coz ifso no matter what it is, I am there." The references to Dungeons & Dragons and green goo type stuff just seems, well, silly to me, because I am not nor have I ever been a teenage boy. But the carnival aspect of some of this sounds a lot more psychedelic in a "whoa, what the fuck was that sound?" than music which is slotted into the "Psychedelic" genre.
Jaar is someone whose music I just can't see the point of, though. It's mystifying to me. But BeatPort charts are also kind mystifying to me tho I know DJs love doing them.
― Coolyplay G (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 9 June 2012 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
Going through the Wicky Lindows stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKutvCtVk9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BwaEg0tOj4
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago) link
k clearly they're dancing to house but still
http://media.laweekly.com/7932028.0.jpg
― Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
That guy stepped in something.
― Evan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know about that, if that dork w/ the white shorts and sunglasses is on beat the beats are definitely in the 135-140 range (which i suppose could be like hard trance or whatever)
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
hello sailor
― owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
tiesto
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.laweekly.com/7932028.0.jpgp
do the brostep!
― the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
dude in what looks like furs and shorts and slippers on the far left is pretty cool tho
― owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
he's like the token rave shaman
― Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
How does one become a rave shaman?
― owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
dunno but raves always have a few of those guys, at least the Cali ones
― Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
i frankyl can't believe how this thread's turned.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpXAZhLZFo
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
we've come a long way, baby
https://twitter.com/RaveSnob/statuses/301467708426448897 @RaveSnob
the ACTUAL fact of brostep being the soundtrack the State of the Union address HOW. EVEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEnyV1Cb0
― don't call it a cloud rap i've been high for years (zvookster), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
state of brounion
― mh, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
#FOLKSTEP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7iHfhBfRKs
why should we donate to the keeplove movement?
― dsb, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
For the topical but not necessarily political - though the news prompting this is likely to get very political.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303 apparent eyewitness account:https://twitter.com/BOYADEE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
apparent eyewitness account:https://twitter.com/BOYADEE
― woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
Oops sorry phone made a post with ancient fragment from other thread
― woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://s9.postimg.org/pdqdxsrkf/sothishappened.png
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 4 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link