Beyonce - 4

tbh I don't see any conflict between Jay-Z referring to Beyonce as his bitch and the strength of Beyonce's pro-woman stance; if anything, it underlines how hollow and facile her pro-woman stance is (really, the only song I can think of where she hasn't defined her womanhood and power by how it relates to a man is the song that everyone but me hates, "Girls (Who Run The World)")

As a result, while there may be a problem here that deserves investigation, it's an expected, unsurprising one that most people have already bought into and resolved for themselves, so there isn't really that much left to talk about.

congrats titchy you learned a new phrase, keep working on using it in sentences

yeah thanks guys, ilx keeps on giving.

sure but if someone is a musician and we cant draw some conclusions from their lyric sheets then what are we left with?

oh yeah sure, and i'm speaking personally when i say i get kinda sorta cynical - i think it's v complicated and then i think sorta don't engage, but that's not to say that the things should be immune to scrutiny.

rap music sometimes refers to women as bitches, my eyes have been opened

that's my titch

okay lol

hahaha

not sure the phrase "whole package" should be mentioned regarding Jay-Z.

found a great review of the new york show the other day -- definitely amped to see this show

don't care for the original but i heard a big gay remix of Best Thing I Never Had at a terrible gay club and it actually worked quite well. vocals sounded great sped up a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaasJ44O5lI

shiny

what a dumb video for a great song.

she looks like an imbecile in that freeze.

i am just going to pretend the american idol backstage rehearsal of 1+1 is the official video

she usually does when she has her "acting face" on

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horseshoe otm

yup

the video is not as good as it could have been but the song still makes me want to cry every time i hear it so

Video is very cO__Ol imo.

Video looks like a 2cb trip I once had

Not really getting the love for Dance For You, songwriting-wise it feels too much like an off-the-peg Terius ballad to me, and the opening is kind of a mess.

the teriusism of it is the best bit i think- poppin this thing, drop drop drop DROPpin this this back. & i think she could be singing the grinding bit on top of a lo-quality rip of an old scratched up library music lp & i'd still think it was a first-grade well-rendered pop symphony.

i only just got around to taking in 'countdown' on this, in a repeat listen sense, etc, it's something else

i love how at the climax of 'dance for you' she sings how "no money can emphasise or describe the love" she has and then immediately follows it with how it is "beyond sex" as if those two things are inextricably linked in her mind. well she's always equated the two but her love for jay has caused the financial vocabulary that exists as the basic language for how she views & interacts with the world to break down, and that's really the ultimate complement she can give him. after a whole album of trying to describe her love for him in various different ways, she's just left awed; it works as the ultimate climax to end the deluxe album with.

Not really getting the love for Dance For You

^^^

btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW3qgtS384

it's one of the best ballads terius has written and it's sung by someone who's a way better vocalist & on top of her game

just 'got it 4 u'

OMG SHE IS PREGNANT

http://www.popculturemajor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/384411788.jpg

what

why was my first thought on hearing this news "BUT YOU HAVEN'T RELEASED COUNTDOWN YET"

Because you are a selfish music fan? *shrugs*

When I heard the news I thought, "Oh well there goes that tour." :(

Honestly, I was not at all surprised that the VMAs was where they made the announcement. It's B and Jay, you know? They're so over the top ridiculous/wonderful that an awards show just seems like the natural place to do so. Can you picture them just making an announcement in the Times or Us Magazine or something?

no. it was definitely the only way to go.

do you think she planned the conception with this timing in mind?

I rather be of the illusion that she acted "human" in this instance, and the conception wasn't a "career move."

Like everything in her career, I feel she's probably planned the date of this since she was 6.

i imagine she wouldn't have planned a pregnancy right in the middle of an album cycle/tour (although knowing her she's probably shot the next 3 videos already). anyway doesn't really matter, the performance last night was so jaw-droppingly great that the belly reveal at the end was just this perfect little moment of joy to top it all off.

^^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIiD9ucSeGU

"Love on Top" debuted in the top twenty this week.

man, I love love love LOVE "End of Time"

yeah

<3 this woman http://www.mtv.com/videos/beyonce/698826/countdown.jhtml#id=1518071

oh man that's so great

ehhh video but thank god this album finally has a good single

Oh no, I am so totally enamored of this video it's ridiculous.

yeah it's perfect. i am not usually super into videos but it kinda really pops & seems so of itself. i was playing this song recently & remembered how fragmented and disjunctive it had sounded when i first heard it, compared to now, now i know it back to front. i wondered if it was somehow like a neat analogy for like, hyperactive consumption, in the way it's so all over the place but urgent and compelling for every second of it.