https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM
― Dave Zuul (Phil D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Everything sounds like rote classic rock or else grunting hair metal or washed-out Adult Contemporary limpness
Country has sounded like this since the early seventies! Shania and Garth just legitimized it.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Begging the question, then: why even call it country? Why not just call it rock? What makes it country except adherence to a few apparently outmoded cliches of what country even "is," or at least "was?" Clearly many purportedly country singers consider themselves country, whether they "sound" like country or not. What is it about what they do that makes them identify as country? And what is it about those that don't identify as country that makes them not country, despite sounding like contemporary notions of country? Like Springsteen, or Aerosmith, or Train or Sheryl Crow?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Genre questions are impossible to answer. I'm with Tim: it's a variant on Charles Evans Hughes' line about the Constitution ("The law is what we say it is").
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
What makes me uncomfortable is wagging our fingers at contemporary country for falling short of an ideal that never existed. George Jones recorded plenty of schmaltz, while Buck Owens and Hag could make pretty scorching rock.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
Pasty Cline was pretty poppy.
― kkvgz, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Plenty of acts were plenty lots of things. The Beatles did country. The Stones did country. Toots & the Maytals did country. But I do believe genres still exists, and adhere to certain creative parameters. What's impossible, I guess, is a quantitative country scale, but given that there are myriad acts one would not consider country in the least, there must be specific qualities/attributes one can point to that they lack that makes them not country.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Is it just about the accent in the end?
Lou Reed singing "I Think I'll Just Sit Here and Drink" in his Nu Yawk accent would rule.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
to be clear, I think the authenticity debate about country is ludicrous, which is why I used scare quotes in that post. If anything, I find the authenticity rhetoric surrounding acts like Jamey Johnson to be far more noxious (cred = beard).
― one big boob fulla bad stitches (billy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Roy Rogers didn't have a beard, gosh darn it.
― kkvgz, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
But he did have a horse!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Taylor has a goat, close enough.
― kkvgz, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
Fake goat, which is so not country. No teats, no credibility.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
I just saw a Alice Cooper video on VH1 classic that was very illuminating for me, in the context of this thread.
― kkvgz, Saturday, 13 August 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, this is pretty much shot-for-shot the same as that Sparks Fly video, yes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXGkrUgMHI
― kkvgz, Saturday, 13 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
Taylor Swift's guitarist needs more MUSCLES.
― kkvgz, Sunday, 14 August 2011 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
i'm okay with the tour video for sparks fly but i kinda wish they had made a "proper" video instead
― (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers), Sunday, 14 August 2011 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
reading on twitter that she's covering nelly in st louis
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 August 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
She sure did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg5NzM7NKN8
― abcfsk, Monday, 15 August 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
a fuck, i was hoping it wasn't something shitty like that
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 August 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha -- haven't even heard it but otm
― (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers) (markers), Monday, 15 August 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
She covers a song from every city at each show. Philly got Pink, Chicago got Fall Out Boy, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
WHERE WAS LONDON'S DIZZEE RASCAL COVER
― lex pretend, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
>>>>>>>>:(
And Oslo's... m2m? Actually a bit pissed at that - she had plenty of time to add a cover and she often does 'em well.
― abcfsk, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Lex, you got hosed. No cover, no goat ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
so would i have to head to detroit to hear her eminem cover? only ever seen shitty youtube clips of it but it's quite something.
OMGGGGG would she do SUPER BASS in NYC???????
― lex pretend, Monday, 15 August 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
i have to follow this girl around the world
would love to see her do a full "Super Bass" omg
she did "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" and it sounded really good on her, I'd love to hear her do 60s soul-pop (apparently she's been listening to the Shirelles a lot! <3)
― one big boob fulla bad stitches (billy), Monday, 15 August 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Taylor: I'd love to do an album of 60s soul-pop.Record company: Sure, but we won't pay for it, and it won't count toward your contract. And we won't promote it. Or release it. Also, we think "Mutt" Lange is the most obvious choice of producer. Good luck, Taylor!
[The suits all leave and a minute passes]
Taylor: Hmm, were they serious?Taylor's mom: About the 'good luck' part, maybe.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
It seems a terrible missed opportunity to have been in Philadelphia and not do "Typical American" as a duet with the goat.
― Tim, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
Was joined by Nicki Minaj for 'Superbass' at Staples.
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 August 2011 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
haha i saw that and was immediately like WHAT, WHERE, OMG, WHY WAS I NOT THERE
fan video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3tzTptE1BY
― lex pretend, Monday, 29 August 2011 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if taylor raps the explicit version when she's alone
okay that's the best
― J0rdan S., Monday, 29 August 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
aww that's rad
― markers, Monday, 29 August 2011 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
She's even covering Brian Wilson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOX5zjkfoFY
― Ad hom . . . in em's cock? (Phil D.), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://listsoplenty.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Belle-and-the-Beast-beauty-and-beast-broadway-show.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 August 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
in some interview she said she was listening to a lot of 50s and 60s pop like the Shirelles and Beach Boys
came here to post the Taylor/Nicki thing, man that's so awesome, I love Taylor mouthing every word like a total dork
― suckin em down like they name was jack daniels (billy), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUnVbamAuNg
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
O_O
There's something so endearing about the fact that Taylor is using this tour as an excuse to jam on stage with her favourite singers on their songs.
― Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
i like that they always come down the same ridiculous staircase
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
also one of the most joyful songs ever
― abcfsk, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
When will Stevie Nicks join her for a version of "Leather and Lace"????
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
\(^o^)/
― markers, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I'm hoping for Pat Benatar and "We Belong".
― Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
oh my goddd
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
<3 hayley's attempt at a punk fanny pack
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/uU43J.jpg
― markers, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link