I'm sorry but Paul Simon is so overrated

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Even non-trolls can start troll threads. Any thread called "I'm sorry but (___________) is so overrated" is a troll thread, imo.

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

So Alamac, which of his contemporaries working in a similar vein do you think are underrated compared to Simon?

the wheelie king (wk), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

i assure you, i am not a troll... i just happen to live under a bridge over troubled waters.

estela, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'm a mere collection of hearts and bones.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

lol, estela, A++

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

alamac is a man of honor, of that i am certain

buzza, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

Please define troll thread, Hovercraft.

Alamac, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

hell no, I'm busy reading the rest of the internet

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Well wheelie king, that is a difficult question, I would certainly say that Leonard Cohen deserves more kudos and accolades than he got. Jorma Kaukonen as well. But I would also say that James Taylor is VASTLY overrated...

Alamac, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Leonard Cohen deserves more kudos and accolades than he got

Since he began touring again in 2008, I would say Cohen has received more ecstatic reviews and plaudits than just about any other artist from his era.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

Well, ban this, hindsight is 20/20. But was he revered at the time of his heyday? I think not.

Alamac, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

in Europe he's always been revered

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

Well, ban this, hindsight is 20/20. But was he revered at the time of his heyday? I think not.

Even if this weren't true, who cares?

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

Cohen's never been commercially successful, but he's ALWAYS been revered

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

a catch-all: I don't, but someone asked.

Alamac, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda remember cohen being a bit of a punchline for rock critics in the early 80s because his style of folk was very unfashionable and "dated" in that period but by the end of the decade he was back to being revered

buzza, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

you're right but that was largely because he reinvented himself with I'm Your Man, which was the most direct and commercial record he'd ever made

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

also everyone loved Pump Up The Volume

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

All that movie needed was a scene of shirtless Leonard spinning around in an office chair.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

In fact, he did his best work after the '70s!

He did most of his best work in the 70s. His very best work was done in 1983 (and late 60s if you count "Bookends"). However, what he has done since 1986 is largely a good bit overrated.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

Paul Simon >>>>>>>>>>>> Art Garfunkel though.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:38 (fourteen years ago)

yo i just found this and all i can say is god damn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bkXgxb66E

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

simons dork brio is otherworldly

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:39 (fourteen years ago)

haha yes

he changed "four in the morning, crapped out, yawning" to "tapped out," which is a bummer

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

His very best work was done in 1983 (and late 60s)

Thought you meant Cohen here, 'cause I'd say that's true too.

I'd say Cohen is Yeats and Simon is Eliot.

saint dominic's p4k review (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

cohen is missy and simon is elliot

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:46 (fourteen years ago)

his early 70s longish hair w/ combover look was something to behold

buzza, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:46 (fourteen years ago)

cohen is e.t. and simon is eliot

max, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

late 70s i guess but

http://permanentplastichelmet.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/paul-simon.jpg

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)

xp there it is

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)

cohen is robert culp and simon is elliott (gould)

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)

cohen is dickens and simon is eliot

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:52 (fourteen years ago)

i don't know if the mustache really added to the look but hey 1975

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fwieE8fRwg&feature=related

buzza, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:54 (fourteen years ago)

cohen is dickens and simon is eliot

― horseshoe, Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

came back here to do this one

max, Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:55 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Paul Kinison

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:58 (fourteen years ago)

lol i'm your man

surm, Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

that "still crazy" performance sounds great, but simon sort of comports himself like will ferrell in the jazz flute scene from anchorman

horseshoe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScG0wN05msA

buzza, Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:03 (fourteen years ago)

ok yeah a+

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

lolol

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:10 (fourteen years ago)

A favorite Anton Corbijn photo of Cohen there.

As long as we're posting 70s photos:
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp9rw15etK1qzcki4o1_250.jpg

saint dominic's p4k review (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:21 (fourteen years ago)

Simon showed the new composition to Garfunkel the same day, and shortly afterward, the duo began to perform it at folk clubs in New York. In the liner notes of their debut album, Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M., Garfunkel claims, "'The Sound of Silence' is a major work. We were looking for a song on a larger scale, but this is more than either of us expected."[6]

The duo recorded it for the first time on March 10, and included the track on Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M., which was released that October.[7] The album flopped upon its release, and the duo split up, with Simon going to England for much of 1965.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUy9ePyo6Q

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:29 (fourteen years ago)

that "still crazy" performance sounds great, but simon sort of comports himself like will ferrell in the jazz flute scene from anchorman

― horseshoe, Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah this is like half the reason it rules!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 August 2011 06:09 (fourteen years ago)

That's an awful photo of Leonard Cohen, please remove it.

Alamac, Thursday, 11 August 2011 12:49 (fourteen years ago)

no way that pic is all-time

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

haven't been following this terrifyingly long thread but i don't think anyone could argue that paul simon is cooler than leonard cohen

full on... mask hysteria (history mayne), Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

He's dressed like a teenage girl.

Alamac, Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

Ha ha that pic of cohen is amazing, is that death of a ladies man era

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)

That was before a visit to NYC's Anvil in '78.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)

watching that old s&g clip, you can see why execs thought simon wouldn't get much play as a solo artist, he's so ubernebbish even garfunkel looks cool next to him

but that's his bag, right? sad sack par excellence, which makes his carping about being second best to dylan kind of o_O

dude was never going to be dylan or young or cohen or whatever, just own yr shit and move on

hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)


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