ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

dude, J0rdan, if you think I'm even 1% seriously comparing the two, you are a lot dumber than I give you credit for

I think he is still making fun of frogbs

I mean, that seems to be the reasonable assumption to make

thank you dan

and btw frogbs, your ppl are called "cheeseheads" because they choose to wear cheese on their heads

that's not actually true. some Chicago Bears beat writer used it as an insulting term, and we embraced it and decided to use it among our own people

just like black people reclaime-, ah never mind

oh boy, sometimes I forget just how clueless frogbs is, sorry J0rdan

frogbs, have you found the politics thread yet

why, dan

we need a unifying cause

x-post HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

DJP unless I am misreading your day, you have succeeded in converting a relatively crappy day into on-board lols, and I salute you, because I too am having an eh sort of workday and you have brought some lol to it

y'all my cheeseheads

cheeseheading everything in sight

this is all that cheesehead albini's fault.

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He had what we call
A passing smoked cheddar

where is dat cheesehead delmar to str8en things out w frogbs

I'm sorry, "cheezhead"

Oh shit she's a damn cheesehead
Just thought you should know, whitebread

(O.T. but can we call Lil Wayne stands Weezeheads?)

er, stans

had a p horrible 24 hrs, this thread is making me feel better, thnx

I ultimately think co-opting slurs into your self-identity are damaging and hurtful; there is a difference between claiming your right to control your reaction to hateful verbiage to reduce its power against you and referring to yourself via hateful verbiage, thereby reinforcing and cementing the negative stereotypes about your people. It is the epitome of slave mentality to wear a word used to strip your forbears of their basic human rights as a badge of honor and any narrative/justification that feeds into that is oppression from either a position of ignorance or privilege.

Kinda playing devil's advocate here, but what about "queer"?

suggested replacement: "fruitheads"

or "carmen mirandas"

what up all mah breederz

"queer" got reclaimed or was never 100% negative though, right? now "faggot" on the other hand...

Since you asked for my opinion, I think it ultimately depends on where the term "queer" came from (which I don't know). If it came from within non-heterosexual communities, I don't really have an opinion on it. If it came from heterosexual communities as a disparaging put-down for those who were not straight, I think it falls into the same pattern of self-oppression. Since I don't know where it came from, I tend to default towards the position that it is not my term to use and I avoid it when talking about sexuality.

In general, I don't think it's possible to reclaim a word you never owned.

What about "geek"

Hmmm. I guess I shouldn't have presupposed that you would be familiar with the (fairly complicated) history and politics of the word "queer". But let wikipedia tell it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer

Fwiw, I identify as Queer (and not as gay) myself.

or, god forbid I pull Jersey Shore out of my hat, "guido"

In general, I don't think it's possible to reclaim a word you never owned.

yeah but language is fluid, that's what's dope about it

It's been interesting in the last few months because a friend who is very feminist and works with pro-woman groups has been noticeably put off by the "slut walk" phenomenon. It's another reclaimed thing, right?

re. geeks, no one was ever denied their basic human rights because they got into an argument on the internet about whether or not greedo or han shot first.

as far as i know.

Give it time.

Kids certainly got the shit kicked out of them while called geeks or nerds as kids

but then along came the internet to show that nerds were actually meaner and more misogynistic than the jocks that beat them up

lol

clearly what we need is a geeks/nerds roots.

million geek march

huh okay, apparently I did know where "queer" came from and was just hedging against being called a know-it-all again

Ultimately it is not my business if someone wants to call themselves "queer". However, it is kind of my business if someone wants to call themselves "nigga", because that often leads people to think they can call ME "nigga", which really you can't. (I mean, you can, but basically you will be on my "fuck off, moron" list; I had endless arguments with my brother about this after he went to college in Seattle that really only resolved themselves after I graduated from college 8 years later where I had to basically say "if you wouldn't call Dad that, then don't call me that, either".)

Also, language may be fluid, and personal experience may expand your horizons and boundaries, but the two don't necessarily happen at the same time; I don't like the pervasiveness of "nigga" but I get why people use it and I enjoy it in a good amount of hip-hop, but really fuck you if you use it to refer to me. I at least have the right to object strenuously to that.

gotta say the underrated aerosmith enquirer's blind items are one of my favorite ilx guilty pleasures

Does anyone know if the word "retard" has been reclaimed?

oh my god

is that what you'd like us to call you?

xp

DJP otm. If you're saying any of these to someone and thinking it's ok, it should be because you know them. Not a bus driver.

you know, frogbs, despite my general rep as ilx cranky old man, i am actually pretty lenient, and certainly stingy with the sb's. and yet.

is that what you'd like us to call you?

only if you're reclaiming it?
I dunno, it's 2011, I would think this has happened already, but I'm not really too well versed in that culture

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people with mental disabilities aren't a culture