No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

I love the deejwhat assumption that Girl Talk is trying to make some high art here that needs to ascribe to some notion of cool or timeliness or cleverness. It's just making people freak out to dance music by taking all the best parts of songs that normal people like and squishing them together. It's exactly what a good DJ does in a 4 hour set, but in 45 minutes.

the goal isn't to learn more about gregg gillis, the goal is to get people to dance to songs they already like

it just sounds like one of those upbeat pop/lite-rock for your workday radio stations + a couple rap songs

this is the first description of this that makes me want to hear it cause 1) I like lit-rock workday radio stations and 2) I like rap so what's not to like here

i haven't heard the new album, btw

it bugs me on the same level as like people who buy "the most relaxing classical music album in the world... ever!" or something - in 2008 does anybody really need to buy a record by the dude from girl talk to bring lil wayne & red hot chili peppers to them?

then why are we talking about gregg gillis xxp

i guess like jordan admitted it comes down to whether you like the idea of girl talk or not... if you think girl talk dude is super radical then you'll go to him for your blondie + paul wall fix but if you think shit is really ugly & embarrassing youll just hit soulseek or listen to b98.5

Gillis is just the peaks of Wayne and Keidis. People aren;t going to him to hear Wayne, they go to hear the best part of Wayne and maybe hear it in a different context and setting. You can't get bent if people have different listening habits than you.

this is where i kind of agree w/ deej (long xxxp) wrt to feed the animals in particular, mostly because he seems to have purposefully cut down on his craftsmanship on this one, or more to the point he isn't working w/in his formula to create his own moments like he did on night ripper. i dont think the formula itself is the problem though.

it bugs me on the same level as like people who buy "the most relaxing classical music album in the world... ever!"

yeah this could just be a symptom of me getting older & less bothered by shit 'cause those "relaxing classical" albums used to really annoy the shit out of me, I had all kinds of cranky objections to 'em, and now my position on 'em is "does it have good music on it? k good, pity about the lame title/cover but whatever," I can date this change to when somebody gave me like the lamest-looking "Chopin for Lovers" comp & I love Chopin so I was like "God fuck this" but then I listened and it was like "damn, quality Chopin mix dudes, can't front" you know?

nah ethan i don't mean whether or not you like the idea of girl talk (by which you mean the idea of a mash-up in general), but rather if you like his ideas in particular even tho he's working with the same materials as your local station's late night dj

i only listen to chopin mixed up w/rachel stevens

xxp

plus i think Girl Talk is less of the LOL MASHUP NEON HOOD INTANETZ BONER CRUNK LET ME LICK DA LOLLERPOPS bullshit that deej/what is trying to paint him as, and more of a plunderphonics guy in the vein of Steinski and Negativland and John Oswald.

so i think it's up to taste (xp to myself), which is a boring conclusion to come to, but if you dislike the idea of mash-ups in general you shouldn't ascribe your feelings about the genre to just girl talk. i mean i dont like metal at all so i dont go in the metal threads saying that i think mastodon is awful (which i do)

i mean im sure "the most relaxing classical album in the world... ever" has some jams on it but itd be dumb to buy that off the infomercial instead of actually just copping a vivaldi LP from goodwill, especially since i would be almost as embarrassed to have that cd lying around my house as i would a girl talk cd

there's nothing wrong with being a blends DJ, and if your approach is a little different or unique, hey, great. but when that tiny little bit of difference translates to big music mags running rave reviews of your blends tape as an 'album' and kids paying to see you as a headliner in rock clubs, it's a little weird.

^^^^^
this would all be well and good if we were talking about some random best classical music cd ... EVER cd that you copped at a truck stop during a road trip, but this shit gets all kind of press and BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR accolades

at least embarrassing "jazz music for dummies!" compilations arent getting fawning write ups in lifestyle mags

ok so then admit from the jump that it's about the press he gets more than what he's actually putting out there

and his albums aren't compilations so this is a really loose and awful comparison. compilations dont get coverage usually because it's assumed that people have heard the songs already so they don't need to be covered again. this is distinctly different.

this is destined to get the same treatment as Go! Team's "Proof of Youth," right?

plunderphonics guy in the vein of Steinski and Negativland and John Oswald.

-- Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:38 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

except i could actually recognize a steinski mix and dude was doing more than just lol biggie/indie mash-ups

I honestly don't think Girl Talk does lolmashups tho. He was doing serious, NOISY, ugly, plunderphonic work on Illegal Art for two (excellent) records before Night Ripper. I think he just wanted to see if he could make a dance record out of it. He did and frenzy ensued.

I think it's unfair to use the word "mashups" with Girl Talk, honestly.

whiney you are right about his pre-night ripper stuff and where his head is at but feed the animals is a bunch of mashups

I think it's unfair to ever use that word, honestly. (xpost)

but i dont use that word pejoratively tho

but feed the animals is a bunch of mashups

I have like 900 albums on my desk that i have to get through for this week, so I'll return to this thread when I've heard it, I guess.

1) i am not sure why this guy in particular is getting all the attention, i think it is TOTALLY fair to call this stuff mashups--if these aren't, what is--and tons of ppl have been doing them since like 2001. so why this dude? he doens't even seem to be a particularly media-friendly personality. i have to assume ppl actually like the WAY he does it beyond just the concept...

2) saying that night ripepr or whatever is exactly like listening to the radio is kinda disingenuous, it's a funny dis but we all know it's not an exact equivalent.

3) don't know why i numbered those.

by Weezy F Baby at 01:48 PM Reply
@RaptorAvatar: he took colored-peoples' music and made it white! what's not to like, right?? and since its white..its (probably) art.

i can't believe lil wayne said that

surprisingly coherent for him too

i'm weezy btw

I can't believe I missed this thread's delights.

Girl Talk does mash-ups, for sure, but his M.O. is a lot more than "lolmashup," though -- I mean, I'd heard plenty of terrible mash-ups before Night Ripper, but the reason that album clicked for me really had to do with the flow. It wasn't just slapped together like "hey rap song + rock song lolz!!" -- it was about dropping in samples at a rapid-fire pace that alternately disorient you ("wait, where do I know that from?") and hit your pop-music pleasure spots ("oh, shit, I love this song!"), all the while building this tapestry of sound that works as its own composition. At its best, there's an intricacy to it, and that's what I respect. (I want to withhold judgment until I've listened a few times, but I think I agree with J0rdan that Feed the Animals lacks some of the intrinsic build and contours that Night Ripper has).

so it's a mashup with 10 songs in one track instead of 2, basically?

that's what i'd sya.

say

i dunno man ive been buying those 50 song "every joint off the radio + a couple classics" mix-cds since h.s. dont really see how this is different besides having more garbage music

http://www.mixtapetorrent.com/files/powercypha2.jpg
1 - Tony Touch
2 - Hurricane G
3 - Imam Thug (25 to Life)
4 - Tragedy/Khadafi
5 - Noreaga
6 - Canibus
7 - Mr. Cheeks
8 - Big Daddy Kane
9 - O.C.
10 - Fat Joe
11 - Lord Finesse
12 - Big L
13 - A.G.
14 - Diamond D
15 - Mike Miller (Powerule)
16 - Prince (Powerule)
17 - Tame One (Artifacts)
18 - El Da Sensai (Artifacts)
19 - Killah Priest
20 - Masta Killa
21 - Timbo King (Royal Fam)
22 - Shorty Prospect (Terror Squad)
23 - Big Punisher
24 - Mad Lion
25 - Yankee
26 - Rey Pirin
27 - Doo Wop (Bounce Squad)
28 - Don Black (Bounce Squad)
29 - Uneek (Bounce Squad)
30 - Angie Martinez (Hot 97)
31 - Ed Lover (Hot 97)

^^^ this ground-breaking album has over 40 different vocalists from rap, r&b and dancehall "recontextualized" over songs by other artists

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/mixtapesusa_2007_47419550

# JODECI f RAEKWON & GHOSTFACE – freek ‘n you rmx
# BRANDY f MC LYTE, YO-YO & QUEEN LATIFAH – I wanna be down rmx
# TOTAL f NOTORIOUS BIG – can’t you see
# DOMINO – ghetto jam\
# CASE f FOXY BROWN & MARY J BLIGE – touch me tease me
# MARY J BLIGE f NOTORIOUS BIG – what’s the 411 rmx
# AZ – sugarhill
# MC LYTE f XSCAPE – keep on keepin’ on
# NOTORIOUS BIG – one more chance rmx
# 2PAC f JODECI – how do you want it
# R. KELLY f JAY-Z – fiesta rmx
# AALIYAH – back & forth rmx
# ADINA HOWARD – freak like me
# TLC – creep (JD rmx)
# NAS f LAURYN HILL – if I ruled the world
# BIG PUN f JOE – still not a player
# SOUL FOR REAL f HEAVY D – candy rain rmx
# LL COOL J – doin’ it
# METHOD MAN f MARY J BLIGE – I’ll be there for you rmx
# DRU HILL f THE BRAT & J.D. – in my bed rmx
# WARREN G f NATE DOGG – regulate
# 112 f NOTORIOUS BIG & MASE – only you (bad boy rmx)
# FOXY BROWN f BLACKSTREET – gotta get you home tonight
# SWV f WU-TANG CLAN – anything rmx
# MARY J BLIGE f NOTORIOUS BIG – real love rmx
# Da BRAT f NOTORIOUS BIG – da b side
# LIL KIM f ANGIE MARTINEZ, LEFT EYE, Da BRAT & MISSY – ladies night
# LAURYN HILL – that thing
# ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT – Tennessee
# LL COOL J – around the way girl
# SOUL II SOUL – back to life (hip hop rmx)
# MARIAH CAREY f OL DIRTY BASTARD – fantasy rmx
# FOXY BROWN f DRU HILL – big bad momma
# BELL BIV DEVOE – poison

Sounds cool.

not enough weezer

i was about to make the exact same joke

No thread on the Tony Touch album, surely some mistake

the key to this is all in the first post:

All the usual ILM friendly faves mashed up into one 16 track extravaganza. Pavement, MIA, Neutral Milk Hotel, Annie, even a bit of Beatles and Genesis to keep Geir happy. What's not to like?

-- Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:56 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

i mean, it really is all about the perhaps dubious pleasure of weezer + big pun or whatever. i don't think anyone would deny that...

i dont remember any big pun - most of the rap was stuck on either 90s obvious biggie shit or like paul wall & fergie

or whatever