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thanks, I guess they didn't play your favorite "Aftermath USA" or at least I don't think so, I left after "World of Hurt" cuz Patterson had said before it "we're gonna play one more new song and then some older stuff" and this was my 5th Truckers show so I didn't necessarily need to hear "Zip City" or "The Living Bubba" or "18 Wheels of Love" or whatever they might've played again when I had to get up for work at 7.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Alligator Stew, *Welcome to Monticello...Live!!!*: Funky Louisiana Southern hillbilly swamp semi-metal cdbaby.com discovery with a singer who sounds like Jim Dandy Mangrum and four other guys with long scraggly hair and mustaches and floppy black turkey-shooting hats. Live tracks are a little loose, being live, where people are probably drinking heavier than one should; I need to listen more to the studio CD they also sent, but that's at work and I'm at home with the live one instead now. "I Know You Too Well" somehow makes me flash on "You Got That Right" by Skynyrd; "You Gotta Give" somehow makes me ditto on "Hot Rod" by Black Oak Arkansas, though with both of em that's more due to the groove than anything else. In fact, though the vocals/guitar/piano are good, what really kills here is the rhythm section. (Though soon as I typed that it went into "The Heist," with a more expansive guitar jam opening than anything on Shooter Jenning's new album, into ballad-tempo words about factories closing: "There's a bank in Lafeyette where we get a loan," by robbing it apparently, just to get what they're rightly owed, but they're caught and wind up on death row; breaks down into parts where there's just singing over sparkling Purple/Uriah organ.) Covers of Seger's "Turn the Page" and CCR's "Green River/Susie Q." Good natured as hell. A keeper for sure, but more time required to gauge just how good it is.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

(Actually turns out the album basically winds down to a few slower spookier tracks than the whiskey party funk it starts out with; theme seems to be My City Was Gone. Last track "Far Beneath the Rubble" ends it all, talks of people lying in pools of blood and rats in the street. Could also be rememberances of a distant battlefield; hard to tell. Same mood as Nazareth's version of "The Ballad of Hollis Brown", though not as noisy.) (And by the way, Copperhead remind me of Nazareth the more I hear them as well, for whatever it's worth.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

Steve Howe/Dixie Dregs-style progabilly hoedown album of the year so far (NOT a cdbaby.com find, how about that?), in case you wondered, is *What Day Is It?* by Bob Drake, whoever he is. (Apparently some French guy.) He sings more like Jon Anderson than John Anderson, but there is still some manner in which this definitely fits on the country thread. (Actually, the liner notes say he lives in France, but he comes from the Midwest somehwere, and he orignally released the album by himself in a small edition in 1994.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)

>what really kills here is the rhythm section<

though lots of times it just settle for just choogling somewhat lazily (which is fine, too.) and i won't absolutely swear they do anything as funky as the gator song on shooter's CD, or the jerry reed song where amos moses becomes gator bait. that'd be a close contest.

switching gears, i just noticed that in my second book i attribute "up against the wall redneck mothers" to bobby bare. amazing song, but i forgot that he'd done it, and i don't remember it being mentioned in all the bare talk in the past year. is he the one who had the biggest hit with it, or was that somebody else? was it an outlaw move for him, or what?

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:05 (twenty years ago)

Hello,
I was sent this link by poster xhuzk in an e-mail about my blog (http://countryuniverse.blogspot.com - end cheap plug here.)

I enjoyed reading the posts and I am looking forward to perusing the archives. I try to listen to as much different music as possible and I'm hoping you guys mention some great stuff I missed.

Thanks for the nice words about my blog. I want to clarify the Mattea comment I made because I think I didn't explain it clearly in the original post. From my point of view, Mattea took two classic songs that aren't easily covered, and I wanted to make the point that the songs are consistent with her musical identity and not just a cheap ploy to sell more records. With the attitude toward the war souring, and never having been very positive to begin with, there have been an avalanche of posturing music stars singing peace songs old and new. Mattea has been recording songs in that vein for a long time and I wanted to make the point that she has the moral authority to sing a song like "Gimme Shelter" because she's always had that worldview and incorporated it into her music; she's not like, say, Madonna suddenly adding "Imagine" to her set list last year.

With "Down On The Corner", which celebrates singing music for pure pleasure, there are few contemporary country artists who can truly claim to be doing that. I think with Mattea walking away from a major label deal (it's a little-known fact that Mercury prez Luke Lewis didn't want her to go) and now recording self-produced albums with her road band that are crafted while playing small venues across the country, she seems to be as close to the spirit of that song as reasonably possible.

I still don't know if that explains things any better, but "moral authority" just meant, to me, that she has the credibility to sing both songs with conviction and not seem like she's just doing a trendy cover or glorified karaoke.

Kevin C., Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:32 (twenty years ago)

Kevin, glad you're here, especially since you seem to know about a thousand times more about country than I do.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)

Here's the link to the Geoffrey Himes essay that accompanies the Nashville Scene poll. Himes is a good guy, and I think his generalizations about c&w vs. pop and rock 'n' roll are more right than wrong, and he's thinking about a lot of the same issues I started thinking about at age 9 and 10 when I discovered that I was most moved by "The Defenders" and "The Virginian" (TV shows at the time) when they had unhappy endings. That said, Geoffrey's essay comes off way too smug and self-congratulatory, and his plumping for the honesty of "There's More Where That Came From" and "Alcohol" seems strained to the point of speciousness. (How is "There's More Where That Came From" more honest (or whatever) than last year's "Stays in Mexico"?) Maybe those songs do a good job of reflecting the country audience's ambivalence about sex and booze, but they do nothing at all to stretch or explore or challenge anything, that I can hear. Which doesn't make them bad songs; it's the attempt to justify them by their supposed honesty which I don't buy into. Also, Himes' terms of justification are pure rebel rock, not country's at all: It was the Kinks who waved their freak flag by singing "I don't say that I feel fine like everybody else," and that's what Himes is doing, saying we're not like everybody else and congratulating us - the voters - for it. Alt all the way.

I might or might not have more to say on this subject. I think it's possible Himes has read Robert Warshow's excellent essay "The Gangster as Tragic Hero." Himes is raising interesting issues; he's just not willing to turn the searchlight onto the voters or onto himself.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Here are the comments I included with my ballot (the first bit repeats stuff I wrote upthread; I repeat myself a lot these days):

I surprised myself with how much I ended up liking the Jamie O'Neal album, which I'd badmouthed a lot during the year. I'd say that Gary Allan has generally stronger songs, and he's a beautiful singer, but what works for him is to figure out how to approach a song and then to just follow that approach, consistently. I finally rated O'Neal higher because her music breathes more freely. In the midst of her dramatic story of the stripper - "Devil on the Left," best song on the album - she breaks into scat singing for no particular reason, but this works, as if the dance in her singing correlates to the striptease. And this is important because it's the music and not the lyrics that makes the case for the stripper's dance.

It's a cliché but accurate to say that country & western is split emotionally between a desire for home and family on the one hand and the urge to range wild and free on the other. This can either be a profound paradox or a lazy inconsistency depending on the artistry involved. Shannon Brown's "Corn Fed" is very catchy but appalling in its stupidity: on the one hand she says that in her happy heartland they leave doors unlocked so as not to keep anybody out, on the other she brags that there ain't nothin' but country on the radio. The average eight year old can see the hypocrisy in that one, and for an adult to write such a song and not notice its bullshit requires a deliberate deadening of the intellect. (Gawd, if there were an actual community that said this about itself, how would its teenagers avoid growing up insane? By listening to Young Jeezy records, perhaps, and dreaming of being gangstas.)

But it's the emotional split asserting itself, the gap between one ideal (wild and free, everybody welcome) and another (everybody united in values). Jamie O'Neal's got the split too, which she avoids confronting directly. Her mom-is-a-hero-in-the-home lecture is in one song, her girls'-night blowout is in another. In "Devil On the Left" - where the two ideals co-exist - the words sidestep just what is supposed to count as the angel's dominion and what the devil's: you assume that the strip show belongs to the devil, but does this mean dancing and pleasure belongs to the devil as well? There's a hint in the song that the preacher who prays for her is the one who eventually marries her and takes her to the corn-fed picket-fence land of the happy ending. But in marrying her he gets the carnal dance she'd previously sold to everyone. (The most touching of the many touching moments on Deana Carter's album is where she in effect asks the angels for permission to have a love affair.)

In general I like music that overspills its container, though for this to work well there has to be a good container in the first place. So that's my version of the split (Nietzsche's melding of Dionysius and Apollo, I suppose, though I haven't read Birth of Tragedy in thirty years so don't really know). Anyway, alt-country - alt anything, actually, including the Nashville Scene and New Times and the Village Voice - has its own version of this paradox/inconsistency: it claims to ride free - to be alternative, to overspill its container - and at the same time it turns "we overspill our container" into a container itself, a niche for the likeminded, and without a lot of motion in the niche. Really, Jamie O'Neal's music has way more splish and splash than Mary Gauthier's does, even if the latter claims to be an emotional cascade.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Dancing and pleasure belong [not belongs] to the devil.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:25 (twenty years ago)

amazing song, but i forgot that he'd done it, and i don't remember it being mentioned in all the bare talk in the past year. is he the one who had the biggest hit with it, or was that somebody else? was it an outlaw move for him, or what?

I'm pretty sure Jerry Jeff Walker had the biggest hit with "Up Against the Wall (Redneck Mother" -- written by Ray Wylie Hubbard, who is still underrated outside of Texas. xhuxk and others might prefer Ray's uber-substance-abused outlaw stuff from the late '70s and early '80s, though I think it's all out of print. He's become a friend, so I won't plug his post-substance Rounder albums too much (they're probably too singer/songwritery for this thread, though would it were more country-folkies had his humor and guitar chops). He's got a new record coming out in the spring. And he's become kind of a godfather to the Cory Morrows and Pat Greens of Austin. Oh, his "Conversation With the Devil" says Satan won the fiddle duel in Georgia. When Ray does "Redneck Mother" live he turns it into a frickin hilarious song-effacing genesis tale of outlaw country itself. I can YSI that if folks want to hear it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

So that's my version of the split (Nietzsche's melding of Dionysius and Apollo, I suppose, though I haven't read Birth of Tragedy in thirty years so don't really know).

Two Nietzche and country connections in less than a week. We need to get Greil over to this thread.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Welcome, Kevin C.! As I said above, I think the breadth of knowledge you display about contemporary country on your site makes the rest of us seem like poseurs in comparison; I'm in awe. But I guess my problem with your Mattea comment, which I didn't really explain above (besides the fact that I'm not sure any singer requires "moral authority" to cover anything), is that I've never in my life dreamed anybody would hear "Gimme Shelter" as a peacemaking song. Which obviously is not to deny that I could be heard that way, I guess.

Frank's basically right about Geoff Himes's essay, I think. Even though I listen to way more Nasvhille country than a few years ago, and to my ears I *do* believe it's improved, I definitely don't think it's improved, as I think he implies, by moving toward alt or "getting back on track" (not a direct quote, but the gist of his argument); I'm not so sure I buy that it ever really got off track in the first place. And if it did, that stupidly smug and typically dull Alan Jackson kvetch he mentioned about not-quite-country two-minute love songs was probably more a SYMPTOM of its getting-off-trackness than a solution or answer to it (same with whoever did the dumb murder on music row one -- that was Alan and George, right? Compared to those two guys, most country was *right* to head more popward.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:50 (twenty years ago)

And I have a feeling that Kevin C., judging from his site, could come up with *tons* of examples where Nasvhille's "formula" left room for "human weakness" throughout the late '90s and early '00s, no matter what Geoff thinks.

xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Hello again.

I guess I should note that Mattea drops the "rape, murder" part of "Gimme Shelter" and by doing so, the song works perfectly as a metaphor for a country on the brink of war. It's not so much a peacemaking song as a stark warning that peace is about to be broken and bad things will come because of it, I suppose.

Regarding country music's quality, I've posted a few times on my blog that I think the genre has suddenly had an artistic resurgence in the past two years, with 2005 being the first truly great year since 1996 or 1997. I suspect, however, that this is just a perception in my head, because access to a lot of different music suddenly opened up through iTunes (for me) and it's so much easier for me to go hear an album that's getting great reviews. For example, "Begonias." I never heard of that album until it started popping up on Best of 2005 lists, but I went and sampled it, bought it, and it popped up on my own list in the end.

This easy access reminds me of the golden era of CMT, when they used to play solid videos 24/7 and everybody had close to equal rotation. So many albums I bought and artists I discovered because of CMT. Remember the first Lari White, Sara Evans, Shania Twain, Martina McBride & Mavericks albums that flopped? I bought them because of CMT. I discovered Bruce Robison, Bobbie Cryner, Joy Lynn White, Mandy Barnett, Johnny Cash's "American Recordings", Willie Nelson's "Spirit" and "Teatro", Emmylou Harris' "Cowgirl's Prayer", Carlene Carter, Matraca Berg, Pirates of the Mississippi, Radney Foster, and even Todd Snider on CMT. I never cared much for radio. I got my music fix from the videos. The new digital delivery methods have opened up the doors again for me to hear a lot of great new music, much like CMT did a decade ago. I worry that maybe 1998-2003 weren't bad years for country music, but rather I just happened to miss a lot of great music that came out.


Kevin C., Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Generally, I've liked watching CMT and the recent round of CDs by
the MontgomeryGentry-Big & Rich-Gretchen Wilson shtick. But this is now officially way out of hand. If there was a death penalty for writing about this stuff as if it shows some aspect of genuineness, these people would all be at the bottom of a trench with lime sprinkled on them.

Last year or longer, from:

Let's all write the same thing at once! Gretchen Wilson provokes wistful nostalgia for Hee-Haw Nation

Today's Sunday LA Times FEATURE, again fit for THEY PHONED IT IN: on Gretchen Wilson -- genuine redneck woman, putting 'redneck' back in country, setting the stage for a new breed of do-it-yourself redneck stars. Hoo-boy, do we love rednecks like this one in el_Lay media, just not our local rednecks, of which there are thousands.

===

Dateline Nashville -- "When Gretchen Wilson reached for a paper cup during an interview on her tour bus, I assumed she was going to pour some coffee. Instead, she brought the empty cup to her mouth and casually spit into it -- brown tobacco juice."

Proof she's a redneck woman? Or maybe she's just crass, chaw spitters being a dime-a-dozen from east coast to west.

"No wonder record executives in this country music capital all but ducked under their desks when the former Illinois bartender and bouncer (and 'bouncer' is gold-plated intelligence-insulting bullshit) came calling time after time only a few years ago looking for a countract..."

"Now, here was someone who'd remind all those pop fans that country music is the land of Hee-Haw and trailer parks..."

"Eager to find Wilsons of their own, execs may now even be ordering spittons.

"A songwriter who collaborates with Wilson says/claims/spouts: "...the country audience related to her right away. She was drinking a beer in her videos and belching. Now everyone is trying to sign a redneck..."

Wilson's mother worked at "a bare-knuckle bar" where "a 12-gauge shotgun was kept."
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I'd include more but it is really too phoned in.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

George, in regard to that Gretchen Wilson thread: the "Christmas lights" line really is the only one worth quoting from "Redneck Woman." But yeah, not only are those stories phoned in, they might as well be promo copy.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

I always found the "xmas lights" ref amusing. Living in Schuylkill County for half my life, it definitely was a redneck thing. One remarkable year, the town left its xmas ornaments up until June. But having lived a third in Pasadena, here it's not exclusive to rednecks. It's an all tastes, creeds and colors thing.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

the esquire guide to country music, is remarkable for its pop tones, and its silliness, but the feature article on tim mcgraw is well worth reading

i think that gretchen wilson is better then her personae lets on.

Anthony Easton, Monday, 23 January 2006 03:30 (twenty years ago)

metal thread post redux:

>Alligator Stew studio album *A First Taste of Alligator Stew* from 1991 sounds tougher, tighter, meaner, and brawnier than the live one I talk about above, with more gunslinger ballads, more cowbell (in "four winds"), more comprehensible words about actual alligator rassling (in "shiner," where the singer keeps saying he's a shiner, a job which, though i've never heard the phrase before, seems to have something to do with bagging large carnivorous reptiles); also, turns out that "blood money" (here in both electric and acoustic versions) is about an offer of $7000 to get off your feet but you have to kill your brother to get it, wow; i'd thought it was about robbing a bank, but apparently i was wrong. also, with the clearer fidelity, it's now obvious the singer grunts or groans more like meat loaf or billy ray cyrus (i.e., aiming for springsteen, probably) than like jim dandy mangrum, which i do not mean as an insult. the fellow can really sing.

xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

>And Alligator Stew's ballads intersperse the gunslinger laments with plenty of factory-closing/bank-foreclosing laments, often in the same song. The gunslinging is just a part of the economics of it all.

xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Samantha Jo, self-titled EP, available from cdbaby.com or samanthajomartin.com: Potential teen-pop country, but for the five songs *only* potential: the voice is there, and two songs ("He's Always There," about her Dad though maybe also about Jesus who knows, and "These Days") are actually about getting up for school despite not being a morning person and checking email and stopping by McDonald's in Dad's truck and doing homework, but the production isn't there, and the songs all seem too slow to pop. But then, BAM! track six, "time for summer," she makes her hope partlow "crazy summer nights" move, or maybe her undertones "here comes the summer" move (no kidding, that's what the chorus sounds like, totally kicking and bubblicious), or her hope partlow plus undertones equals skye sweetnam move, and the talking parts have a rap flow staight out of, I dunno, "we didn't start the fire" by billy joel maybe, and the band rocks, and it makes me want to go back and listen to the rest again to see what I may have missed, and I will, just not right this second.

xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Looks like the summer song (along with the get up in the morning and do homework and check email one "These Days") were produced by Karl Demer in Minneapolis, whereas the other four tracks were produced by Jim Kimball in Nashville. Odd how they save the great one for the end; maybe they're afaid it would scare away Nashville record labels?

xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

So has anybody mentioned that "Than Shin Ley Ye Khan" by Saing Saing Maw, the first and best track on *Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Folk and Pop Music of Mynanmar (Burma) Vol. 2* (filed amid my F CD compilations rather than my G ones since the subtitle rather than the title is on the CD spine) is basically, or even blatantly, a cover of "Lightin' Bar Blues" by Hoyt Axton (also covered by Brownsville Station and lots of other people, including some hard rocking garage band last year whose name I forget)? I thought this was obvious the very first time I played the CD, but I never mentioned it, and can't remember anybody else mentioning it since either. Though maybe I missed it, or maybe they thought it was too obvious to point out, too.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

LIGHTNING Bar Blues, I mean

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

new Hank Williams III
is a two-disc set: one songs,
second ONE LONG TRACK

mixing cover tunes,
original psych rock and
covering hank I

I haven't heard it yet o nym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

The rest of the Samantha Jo EP, before the summer song, is better than I thought. There's subtly swaying rhythmic stuff going on, for one thing -- waltz in "That's My Way," smooth jazz in the slightly creepy love-song-to-Dad "He's Always There," a slight Latin lilt at the start of "These Days." And one of the two truly slow songs, "Look What Love Has Done To Me," has Samantha's voice picking up in a way that's as much adult contemporary than pop-country; actually, its opening kind of reminds me of "Foolish Beat" by Debbie Gibson. But Samantha is clearly way more enthusiastic singing about teenage life than grown-up romance, and "Time For Summer" is the ultimate proof: "I Wanna Be 21/On the run/having fun/in the sun/lookin for someone/just like me/who oughta be/feelin free/come with me/cause baby it's time for summer." "Let's go Romeo/All the way to Mexico." "When I feel your embrace the sparks turn to fireworks." "White sand/Rayban/finally got a great tan." "We're young and strong and baby we can do no wrong." Wow.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:53 (twenty years ago)

So has anybody mentioned that "Than Shin Ley Ye Khan" by Saing Saing Maw, the first and best track on *Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Folk and Pop Music of Mynanmar (Burma) Vol. 2* (filed amid my F CD compilations rather than my G ones since the subtitle rather than the title is on the CD spine) is basically, or even blatantly, a cover of "Lightin' Bar Blues" by Hoyt Axton (also covered by Brownsville Station and lots of other people, including some hard rocking garage band last year whose name I forget)?

(1) It's one of maybe about 12 "best" songs on that album, which doesn't have a bad one and would have made my Pazz & Jop ballot if I'd listened to it a couple of days earlier (it's the Burmese album I shoehorned onto my Nashville Scene reissues list).

(2) I just listened to 30-second streamed clips of Brownsville Stations', Hanoi Rocks', and Commander Cody's versions of "Lightnin' Bar Blues," and damned if I don't think you're right, Chuck (though "Lightnin' Bar Blues" may possibly be a knockoff of some earlier rockabilly track). The way Saing Saing Maw sings it reminds me of Ricky Nelson: Relaxed. As Dylan says, not rootin' the mountain down.

(3) Chuck, did the Robyn CD arrive?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Dylan was talking about Ricky Nelson, not about Saing Saing Maw.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

> waltz in "That's My Way," <

Oops, the waltz is "Heart Over Head Over Heels." "That's the Way" is more like a zigzag (at leat that's what Samantha says: "gotta zig gotta zag gotta travel my jagged road." To Mexico with Romeo, maybe. But she also says she changes direction like a pendulum, and this song doesn't, and nor does it swing like England and a pendulum do.)

I did get Robyn, Frank, thanks! I like it, especially "Konichiwa Bitches," though I doubt I like that anywhere near as much as "Jam On It" or "Attack of the Name Game." Enjoy the rest; not sure yet how much. (CD-Rs are always hard for to motivate myself to listen to!)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Robert Gordon fans and people who like the Mavericks more than I do and maybe people who liked the first Blasters album on that little rockabilly label more than the second or third ones might well appreciate the Cadillac Angels (from Santa Barbara I gather) more than I do. To me, though, their songs with vocals come off as just some kinda antiseptic reverent uncrazy teddy-boy shtick. I like it better when they cover Link Wray (which they obsessively do at least four times on the three CDs they sent, not even counting the track they title "Wray Gunn") or "Peter Gunn," but even those, scores of bands have obviously done wilder. *16 Tons of Twang* gets the nod over *Spanish Train* and *Illinois Boy* for being more instrumental, but sad to say I can't in good conscience recommend any of the three.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

New Tres Chicas on Yep Roc: Really good singing, natch, but eeek, the songwriting is more strained and hookless than anything I've heard in 12 1/2 years, I think. One song compares a lover's heart to "400 Flamingos" (because they're pink? no, wait, 'cause the heart has flown away) and others seem crypto-nu christian in their wholesome love of love and comfort to all our bleeding wounds. Political song "Man of the People" is OK, but less for the politics, more for a nice trio harmony on "whoah ohh." Band sometimes plays real pretty, sometims sounds like they're waiting to get their teeth cleaned. If ND goes for this, which I fear they will, it will be proof positive that the alt-country audience has given up both the alt and the country and settled for the flat line in between.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

What if Pink entitled her next album Flamingos?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Or Pink: *Flamencos.*

Shawn Camp *Fireball* on now; he wrote "Two Pina Coladas" for Garth and "How Long Gone" (which I don't remember off the top of my head) for Brooks and Dunn. He sounds like Ricky Skaggs with (sometimes, when he's good) John Anderson's or Blake Shelton's self-effacingly cornball sense of humor (though Skaggs himself could be self-effacingly humorous too, come to think of it). He's got as much bluegrass in him as Dierks Bentley, I guess; i.e., not enough to make him seem like a priss, but enough to make things interesting. Not a purist, in other words, and plenty of fast catchy songs. Leaning toward liking "Fireball" (about a gal), "The Way It Is" (is the way it was is the way it's gonna be, or something like that) "Hotwired" (multifaceted title metaphor), "Beagle Hound" (about his dawg), and "Drank" (about drinking) most, at least so far. Seems like he's not so good with the dark deathbound stuff, but I could be wrong.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I just listened to the first two tracks on Catfish Haven's Please Come Back EP. The first ("Please Come Back") is Otis Redding–type vocals over garage-rock/garage-soul unison strum and drum pounding, and I like the emotionalism. Good track, though as it goes on it's a bit too much of the same thing, and my mind wanders.

Second song ("You Can Have Me") they're doing pretty much the same, the melody is almost as good, though the arrangement is more ordinary and less garage; and oddly enough I hate this track - falls into the category of "some guy trying to sing soul." I hear all the weaknesses that didn't bother me on track one, the singer not quite hitting the notes (the rough-hewn delivery masking the misses), out-of-tune backup singing. New Jersey white soul? They're a Chicago band, but they feel like Jersey.

I may report further when I listen more. Probably my liking for track one will diminish somewhat, and my tolerance for track two will increase.

(You know, Jagger and Sinatra were never quite hitting the notes, either, but despite this they hit thought and emotion on the noggin - when they were at their best, anyway. I wonder why something works in one situation and not another.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)

One problem I have with Shawn Camp (more than with Anderson or Shelton; closer to Skaggs maybe?), is that he sometimes seems unduly PROUD of his self-effacing cornballism; he clearly thinks it's really cute. I'm not sure why I get that idea, though. And often, it IS cute (things some girl hotwires: his Chevy, his phone, his ceiling fan, his coffee pot, his guitar, his heart, his brain, a police car), so why shouldn't he think so? Maybe because Anderson and Shelton's self-effacement generally strikes me as less clean-cut? I dunno; I'm tired, I didn't get enough sleep. Anyway, another thing I noticed is that Camp's catchier songs often dance a speedy two-step, and he gets a strong rhythm into both his vocal and guitar parts; "Love Crazy," I think it is, has him *talking* in rhythm, and "Waiting For The Day to Break" (which I might wind up preferring to several of the less generically lyriced songs that I list above) has a tough blues swing.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Also, "Beagle Hound" has barking dog sound effects and "Drank" has glugging and beer bottle cap twisting sound effects, not to mention (in the latter) lots of silly high pitched mouth sounds and chuckles that suggest Shawn maybe studied the Charlie Poole box set last year.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

(I hope this isn't a double post. I keep getting poxy fuled, so this is my second shot at it)

I wonder if fewer people voted for singles than albums in the Scene poll. This could explain why singles I like did better than albums I like; people with my taste have more of an impact.

(But I also usually prefer the singles to the albums that place in Pazz & Jop, and though there are fewer singles voters there, this is not enough to give people like me a special impact. Rather, people's taste gets better when they go for singles, and maybe the best singles artists clutter up their albums with ballads and stuff that drive away the album voters.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Also, I hate the fact that this year they didn't list vote totals. Whose idea was that? It makes the presentation feel less honest. You can't tell if Lee Ann won by a landslide with a bunch of people in a distant pack behind her (which is my bet as to what happened), or if it's an evenly spaced line of contenders. My guess is that Mary Gauthier's numbers are a lot closer to Shooter Jennings' than to Lee Ann Womack's, even though on the list she's a lot closer to Womack.

Also, they seem to have truncated the section overall this year, used fewer comments, though I haven't compared the column inches.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

>I wonder if fewer people voted for singles than albums in the Scene poll. This could explain why singles I like did better than albums I like; people with my taste have more of an impact.<

Maybe the alt-country types are less likely to vote for singles? That would be my guess. (Also, wasn't there one guy who said he voted for alt-country albums, but let his 19 year old daughter pick her favorite pop country singles? Or did I just dream that one up?)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

The problem posed by any discussion of what qualifies as "country" is that the term refers both to an expansive musical category and a restrictive radio format. One reflection of this is the disconnect on my ballot between the top country albums and singles. I fill out the former category, exercising a lot of critical latitude as to what constitutes country. My 18-year-old daughter fills out the latter, based on preferences formed by power-rotation airplay. I almost never listen to country radio; she almost never listens to anything else. Yet not only do we both love country music, we appreciate a lot of the same country music (from Shooter Jennings and Alison Krauss to Gretchen Wilson and Brooks & Dunn). Maybe these two countries aren't totally different after all.
—Don McLeese

(But I don't see that preferences based on power-rotation airplay disallow critical latitude as to what counts as country.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Interesting that you'd remembered her as 19. I remembered her as 17. I wonder what this says about her. (I think that I trust the taste of 17 year olds more than the taste of 18 and 19 year olds.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Though wait, I take that back: at 18 I was more likely to accept the possible greatness of performers like the Beach Boys and Shangri-Las and Supremes and the Carpenters than I was at 17.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:11 (twenty years ago)

C/D: Terry Bradshaw's version of Hank Williams' "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry"

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

You know that's not half bad. What's the context?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

saw Hayseed Dixie do a short set the other night. fun stuff, great version of "War Pigs," and they do up "Dueling Banjos" complete with behind-the-back banjo Hendrix. and, tell some funny jokes, like the one about how the "Deliverance" movie was inaccurate, since why would anyone wanna bugger Ned Beatty when you have the young studly Burt Reynolds? "there's no way those ol' boys would've been such poor shots, if they could hit a buck at 1000 feet they sure as hell could've gotten Beatty's ass..." and also caught Amy LaVere's act--I had done a short thing on her new album and thought it was a bit watered-down sounding. turns out she does Sun-a-billy and honky-tonk (an amazing version of "Swinging Doors" not to mention a fine raucous take on John Hurt's "Candyman" by their very fine guitarist) really well, has a sense of humor, is sexy, and good taste in covers. so she could really go somewhere, I think. the record is really more of a singer-songwriter thing, but for that, not bad at all. did I mention she's really sexy?

got several things to assess here, I've been playing catchup for the past week, just can't shake this flu. including the new Hank III, which came today, and the new Rhett Akins. but tonight, excited to be seeing Bettye LaVette!!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:14 (twenty years ago)

>Hayseed Dixie <

Hmmm...heard their new album a month or two ago and didn't think it was that good. Are these the same guys who put out an all bluegrass album of AC/DC covers a few years ago? Or was that somebody else? Either way, seems like a way too obvious shtick that wasn't funny in the first place, being the same kind of joke indie bands have worn into the ground since the Replacements two decades ago, plus like all joke-metal it's completely redundant, somehow missing the fact that you don't need to *make* hard rock funny, because it was funny on purpose in the first place. Anyway, grumpiness over with, I actually thought the two least annoying songs on the new Hayseed Dixie album were their version of Green Day's "Holiday" and an original called "Kirby Hill," mainly because their energy was better when I can't remember a version of the song that's way more energetic, and it's been a long time since I played that Green Day album. "Black Dog," "War Pigs," "Ace of Spades," and a couple other originals ("Mountain Man," "Marijuana") seemed tolerable (once), but the shtick wore out its welcome way too quick. On the other hand, I *can* kind of see how they'd be fun to be in a room with while drinking beer, especially if they cracked wise about *Deliverance* between songs.

xhuxk, Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)

Turns out Neil Brockbank produced the Tres Chicas record and the band is mostly Brits. I like Brockbank's work with Nick Lowe but not sure what happened on these stifled sessions. Lowe guests somewhere, but he didn't bring any hooks.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

so turns out hayseed dixie get the lead review in time out NY's music section this week, and yep, they're the ones who made the bluegrass ac/dc album(s); i guess "hayseed dixie" (their name) sort of *sounds* like "ac/dc," if you mumble it? i dunno. anyway, i gotta say they kinda piss me off. why would anybody listen to their crap instead of actual country or metal records? i don't get it. being the musical answer to a trucker's hat in williamsburg is nothing to be proud of.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 January 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

the video for brad paisleys when i get to heaven, can anyone explain the presence of reagon? i mean i kind of get the cashes, but they still are a little jarring--but ronnie raygun...can we talk about this

Anthony Easton, Friday, 27 January 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)


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