lyrically i do prefer early jokey nihilist waiting for mutually assured destruction s.y. to placid hippie grandparents catching a vibe s.y.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
old man thurston on the farm is hilarious
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
"new hampshire." there's a good live version on youtube... nimble, propulsive track.― Lowell N. Behold'n, Sunday, 31 July 2011 02:26 (3 days ago)
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Sunday, 31 July 2011 02:26 (3 days ago)
never caught them live during the tour of this album but i love thurston's vocal switch for this track live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0i7H-ALg2o
― Bastards of Young Dro, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the drums on that song are so dope
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 04:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, mariah, you're endless.
― j., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to this now front to back, which i never do for any albums anymore, and this still sounds great
keys: headphones, don't play it too softly
― markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link
because i started appreciating 'sonic nurse' i have decided to listen to every single SY album through in order. (i listen to them front to back all the time, but i don't know if i've ever played all of them first to last.)
― j., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 07:48 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to this on the way to work this morning. main thing -- guitars are beautifully recorded/mixed. just a really wonderful tangle of sound that's somehow dense without being super-heavy. only song i'm not really fond of is the mariah carey one, has to be kim's most irritating vocal. kind of wish dripping dream was an instrumental -- love the music, sort of can't stand thurston's vocal/lyrics. last two tracks are a great pair. not sure what to vote for -- probably either "stones" or "golden blue"?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
both good choices -- i wonder how much of the technical stuff is due to o'rourke's involvement -- iirc he wasn't involved in rather ripped & it sounds much more bricked and less interesting/pleasing 2 meh
― markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Somebody put the question to Thurston in another SY thread.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i think i asked whoever that was to ask thurston iirc
― markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 5 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
well
― markers, Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
http://masters-of-photography.com/images/full/cunningham/cunningham_bed.jpg
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I love you, golden poll
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 August 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty otm results
i love how this song is full of all these long jams and then "Unmade Bed" boils down the same kind of epic feel into a 4-minute track.
― some dude, Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"Peace Attack" is my favorite of their recent closers.
― livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
least fave for me
― some dude, Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
They need to make another NYCGF
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i rate that album about as lowly as anyone else, but i don't disagree with that -- the spirit the album was done in wasn't bad in and of itself, wouldn't mind them trying it again in some way, as much as i love the warm melodic hippie jamz they've been on since then.
― some dude, Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
nycgaf is glorious. the title track especially.
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Monday, 8 August 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
the sloppiness of the performance ruins it a little for me, like when steve is doing those snare hits four at a time and then once only does three and misses a hit, so takes me out of the song. still the 2nd best track on the album, though.
― Autism Alamac (some dude), Monday, 8 August 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link
lee's vocals just give me such chills on that track, and also the way that wall of black noise right at the end suddenly changes tone, sounding like an airplane changing course, before just cutting out.
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Monday, 8 August 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
god, thurston and kim are so annoying
― thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i've listened to this a couple times lately, & every time i'm focusing on the guitars and digging it to a great extent and i accidentally fail to tune out some lyric like
Howling scriptures to the mother earthO mother Africa awake your son
and immediately i feel very sheepish and have to turn the volume down
― thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
extremely great sonic nurse era live tape here: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/159756529077/sonic-youth-cats-cradle-carborro-north
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
My favorite of their '00s albums.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah i think it's where their 2000s approach really came together in a totally satisfying way -- probably my most listened to SY record these days.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link
also, i think some people on ILM have complained about steve shelley during this period (maybe being too same-y in his playing?) but man, on this tape the guy is incredible, just powering the whole thing along.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
people on ILM are ingrates
― j., Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
hell yeah! been listening to Murray Street era shows a lot lately. the O'Rourke period is my favorite SY era.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
I've probably said it half a dozen times on this thread but Nurse is my favorite SY by a substantial margin. So many great songs to love.
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
the mote > new hampshire transition on this live tape is unbelievable
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link
thanks so much for sharing this - there's another SY boot from 2000 on there that looks amazing: two sets, the first is solo/duo/trio performances by all members, including two solo Jim songs (!!!)
https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/152688686497/sonic-youth-cats-cradle-carrboro-north?is_related_post=1
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link
Sonic Youth - Cat’s Cradle, Carrboro, North Carolina, August 5, 2000“I don’t know what we’re gonna do tonight. I think maybe what we’ll do is … um, just whatever comes naturally.”Let’s take a trip back to simpler times – the summer of 2000! It was the beginning of a new century, but it was still kinda the 90s. There were Clintons in the White House. I was about to start my senior year of college. And Sonic Youth was opening for Pearl Jam. Weird, I know. SY took advantage of a night off from the arena scene to play a standalone show in Carrboro – and thank the lord that they did. This fantastic Cat’s Cradle recording, kindly supplied by Cory, is an awesome and unique document. The first set is a Perspectives Musicales showcase, featuring Thurston Moore, Kim Gordon, Lee Ranaldo, Steve Shelley, and Jim O’Rourke performing solo or in various configurations. So you get such curiosities as: Thurston’s acoustic sketches for a few Murray Street numbers; Lee reading Gregory Corso; an amazing “Film Music” noise excursion; a charmingly fumbling O’Rourke mini-set (”I don’t do this very often,” Jim apologizes meekly after several false starts); and maybe best of all, three storming songs from Kim, Jim & Steve (“I think Kim, Jim & Steve win!” Thurston proclaims afterwards, suitably impressed.) It’s all great, though – a kinda Sonic-Youth-Does-The-Rolling-Thunder-Revue thing, with a loose, rambling vibe that shows off the impressive confluence of talent that came together in this one band. But that’s not all! Sonic Youth in a more familiar form returns for a killer second set that was probably closer to the one they were playing for Pearl Jam fans that summer (Sorry Vedd-Heads, Eddie doesn’t jump onstage for “Kool Thing”). There are plenty of “hits,” but also plenty of tunes from the band’s then-new NYC Ghosts & Flowers LP. Now, that album may be one of SY’s least-loved efforts, but these performances will likely change any naysayers’ minds. The beat poetry stuff is still a little iffy, but the overall sound is astonishing – it was easy to take for granted back in the day, but no other band explored such massive feedback-drenched landscapes. Anyway! Enjoy this – and thanks again to Cory for getting it to us all …
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
yes! another great one, same taper. (that's my site)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
I remember Kim saying Coco said she wished Vedder was her dad
― Len's flares (stevie), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
jesus, that's a harsh curve
i've been re-reading/skimming Kim's memoir lately (mostly for O'Rourke drama - the woman that Thurston had the affair with was with Jim first, and it ended "crazy, theatrically badly," and was a big reason he moved to Japan), but fuck, Thurston is so dark, i find it hard to listen to his songs anymore.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
Favorite album of 2004.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
I kind of hate "Peace Attack". I'm not sure exactly why. Musically, it feels like a retread of one of Moore's solo tracks, which haven't ever really been truly essential material in the first place. The vocals seem especially lazy and somehow grating for me in the sing-song nature, I dunno?― EveningStar (Sund4r)
― EveningStar (Sund4r)
still can't believe that's a piano at the end of The Dripping Dream. Can anybody confirm?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
been listening to too many dead bootlegs lately, was hoping to explore SY/YLT live recordings to scratch that noisy itch, good timing on this! too bad there aren't many YLT recordings on archive.org...
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
See if you can find their show at the Royal Festival Hall in 2000 (I think?). John Peel introduces it, and they do an amazing, epic Night Falls as the opening track. Lots of technical difficulties throughout but still a charming show.
― Len's flares (stevie), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
has Ira ever sang "The Crying of Lot G" properly live, or does he always mumble and talk thru it? the studio version of that song is perfect, every live version i've heard is awful
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
i'll go on soulseek after work and check that out xp. nothing streamable/downloadable that i can find right now other than a review
https://www.musicomh.com/reviews/live/yo-la-tengo-royal-festival-hall-london
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link
ha and this review isn't even for that show
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link
ha, isn't "crying of lot g" a mumble/talk song to begin with? i posted that ylt royal festival show a million years ago, but the link is dead. if you can't find it anywhere i can see if i can dig it up. but yeah, as i've probably said a million times, would be great if bands like SY and YLT would let fans put recordings up on archive.org.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
it'd rekindle my interest in them anyway, i haven't really listened to either since college
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
ha, isn't "crying of lot g" a mumble/talk song to begin with?
yes, but the pacing and delivery on the studio version is perfect- it's very musical while still being a talking song. whenever i hear him sing it live he sounds like Dylan doing Ballad of a Thin Man or whatever today.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link