'something/ anything?' by Todd is also a winner so i'm told by the Todd massive.
Yeah, that's probably his real "opus" album. A lot of people complain that it's too long or whatever and has a lot of juvinile stuff like "Slut" or "You Left Me Sore", but at least it is pretty entertaining. How exactly do you hate on a song called "Piss Aaron"
A Wizard, A True Star is his best. I cant imagine him ever making a better album than that.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
when I used "lackadaisical" in my last post it didn't mean what I thought it meant
― could've been a baller (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
I think you are over-thinking/over-caring about the lyrics
FWIW, I'm also not too crazy about the music - it sounds like cod-psychedelia that was already dated by 1970.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
"who loves the sun" isn't the best vu song by any stretch but still it has something about it. a naiveté, a carelessness. like a song for children. it's straight to the heart and i find that charming. i don't care for the lyrics and dated is an epithet which in this context definitely is a red herring. if i think about it dated is an adjective which does not make sense in an objective way. when something sounds dated it sounds dated for you but not in general. the datedness factor arrives only when you have listened too often to the same kind of music in the past. but really good music like the beatles for example never sounds dated. what is the antagonism of dated? fresh? the beatles always sound fresh to my ears. and vu too.
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
Beach Boys - SunflowerSerge Gainsbourg - Aux Armes Et CaeteraJoe Higgs - Life of ContradictionSouthern Journeys Volume 8: Velvet Voices
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
"Who loves the sun" is the only VU song I would ever put on a mix cd. I like some of the other songs on Loaded but I don't really like VU at all. As for whether the psych-pop sound was literally dated or not doesn't make a difference to me. I wasn't alive in 1970. Either way WLtS never sounds dated in my ears. Though it will get bored of it just like any other pop song
― could've been a baller (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
Pop will get bored of itself.
― ledge, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
I have a feeling I may know the 'Todd Massive'.
― Rebekah Brooks Hardsonned My Hamster (Doran), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
I have only just recently heard Luomo's Present Lover, and my gosh it sounds incredibly fresh for a six-and-a-half year old album.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
^^ Yes. I remember how big a deal that album was when it came out, and how it totally lived up to the hype imho. Deserves canonical classic status.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
Led Zeppelin I, II, III and Houses of the Holy
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
Kind of pissed off the Luomo hype passed me by. I must have heard some stuff around the time and just not been grabbed. I know I had an electro version of Tessio on a DJ mix at the time, but didn't know what it was.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Actually that mix was brilliant - really fast electro like they did in the early-mid '00s that I'd kind of forgotten existed as the style became more mid-tempo throughout the decade. It was an ilxor who called himself dj xii who made it.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
Sly & The Family Stone - Fresh
I thought Greatest Hits was the last great Sly Stone record, but I was wrong.
― can't remember why i picked this awful name (forapper), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Dog Latin, excited for you to have just gotten into Present Lover! I think Sasu Ripatti is one of the best, period. I recently picked up Anima (which he did as Vladislav Delay) and that's a total jaw-dropper. Vocalcity changed my music life when it came out, and I'll always hold it up as one of my favorite and most formative records.
As far as recent classics I've just gotten/loved:
Piece of Mind - Iron MaidenHoly Mountain - Sleep (classic only amongst stoner metal enthusiasts, I suppose, but this is amazing)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:07 (fourteen years ago)
I dipped my toes into Vocalcity after reading all the crazy hype around here, but I never managed to get into it - and still can't to this day - I guess it was just too house-y for me.'Present Lover' otoh just blew my mind when it came out - so rich, so emotional for a record drenched with a cold glamour sheen (perfect cover art). So human for a record based on allegedly de-humanizing cut-ups and mechanical sounds.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:34 (fourteen years ago)
Like Baaderonixx, I think I must have checked out Vocalcity and just not been taken by it, hence why I didn't bother investigating further. In fact, despite having been heavily into IDM/post-rock in the early 2000s Vladislav Delay passed me by completely. I intend to rectify this. Can anyone suggest a POX cuts, or a couple of essential albums - I know he has a lot of pseudonyms.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)
Cut by The Slits.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:43 (fourteen years ago)
The present lover the album and vocalcity are both essential imo. The present lover song is one if my all time favourites.
― prego, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:45 (fourteen years ago)
despite a couple of duff tracks (inc. "pride"), "the unforgettable fire" is a great record.
― Michael B, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)
I enjoy most albums posted in the rolling Krautrock thread, but I was knocked out by You's "Electric Day"
― Ópen W. (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:15 (fourteen years ago)
kind of an uh elastic approach being taken to the definition of "classic album" itt at the mo
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:25 (fourteen years ago)
the fuck is luomo?
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, maybe. I don't like Luomo.
― Ópen W. (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
more like an elastic approach being taken to the phrase "anything pre 1990"
― beemer douchebag (DJP), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)
vladislav delay's multila is pretty essential. "huone" is a stunner off of that one.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't notice the pre-1990 stipulation in the original post, whoops (I think that Sleep record is from '92 or '93)... But that's kind of an early cut-off point, isn't it? Especially given that there've been--at least in rock--almost as many post-'90 years as pre-'90 years at this point.
Re: Vocalcity and Luomo in general, yeah, I mean if you've got a general aversion to house, this stuff isn't so radically different that it'll convert you or anything (it's really pretty reverent in its way). At the time, for me, Vocalcity managed to both beat most all other "IDM" I was aware of in terms of sound design, texture, detail, and compositional chops, while also being groovy as hell (I wasn't so aware of house proper at the time).
Vladislav Delay's Anima to me is essential... Very abstract, but with the same pulsing, teeming-with-microscopic-life organic sensuousness of the Luomo stuff, and a vibe of detached, cerebral dread rather than more obvious "dark" dread. The sound design is just astonishing (but listen to it loud in a room, not on headphones, for maximum effect).
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
there've been--at least in rock--almost as many post-'90 years as pre-'90 years at this point.
:-O
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
Of course, I meant album-oriented rock... It's kinda true, no?
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)
i guess... That's frightening though.
― Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
Very true... Continuing the Luomo love, here's Philip Sherburne's really outstanding review of the '05 reissue:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4929-vocalcity/
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
Sam Cooke - Night Beat. Damn.
― thinveneer, Sunday, 25 September 2011 10:21 (fourteen years ago)
It's not a proper album but The Kinks - Ultimate Collection really knocked my socks off.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 25 September 2011 11:47 (fourteen years ago)
xp to the stuff about pre and post 1990; i've honestly no idea why i said that in the first post! since then we've taken it to mean any vaguely canonical album from any era.
original Luomo hype here btw:Luomo: The Present Lover
― piscesx, Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
My thought was that 1990 is a year likely to catch most ilxors in their teenage years and therefore formative years of musical taste. Obviously there are some older and younger, but most ilxors are early 30s I think. And, I don't know how old you are, piscesx.
― My hetfield very root with me what can I lou? (rustic italian flatbread), Sunday, 25 September 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
mm i'm 37 so yeah i was thinking 'classic' as in 'old' meaning i guess 'before i was a teen' so you're right. but yeah this thread eventually became 'what was the last album you got that people generally think of as classic, that you were knocked out by'.
― piscesx, Sunday, 25 September 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Out To Lunch, The Shape of Jazz to Come, Free Jazz, Ascension, Saxophone Colossus
and I'm just getting warm
― gospodin simmel, Sunday, 25 September 2011 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
Alan Lomax Southern Journey Volumes 7 (Velvet Voices) and 8 (George Sea Islands) are amazing.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 25 September 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
picked up a couple of the Kinks Deluxe thingies recently; the mono version of Face to Face(my fave Kinks, period) especially kicked my arse in a good way.
― Gerald McBoing-Boingxxpost: i like that that one is a double disc set with some underrated singles/b-sides (i.e. "i need you" and "who'll be the next in line")
― epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 25 September 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, it really seems to hit all their high points with only a handful of key tracks missing (I added "The Village Green Preservation Society", "Picture Book", "Destroyer" and "Picture Book" to my digital version.)
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 26 September 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)
Bruce Langhorne Hired Hand OST
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 September 2011 02:28 (fourteen years ago)
Dr John - Babylon, which I heaerd for the 1st time 2 weeks ago. It was made WHEN????~?
― factcheckr (eat my dirt), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
got reacquainted with The Contortions "Buy"
― Michael B, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Todd Rundgren mentioned above, I will nominate Something/Anything? SO good.
Also James Carr's A Man Needs A Woman
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
The My Bloody Valentine one. I've listened to a lot of those 90's/00's 'canon' albums, stuff like Funeral, Aeroplane, etc., but this is the only one where I can totally understand why it's regarded as a classic
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
this is happening to me atm with If You're Feeling Sinister
― I would like some lulz from the lulzman's wife's EXCELSIOR (bernard snowy), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Rush, "Moving Pictures" which I haven't enjoyed since I was a freshman!
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
Also XTC Skylarking which I thought I'd hate.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
most of the early Popul Vuh catalog
― Brad C., Monday, 3 October 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
^ Popol