amy winehouse - C or D? [RIP 7/23/11]

you only need to hear her music for her to be humanised!

^^^

i love what kind of fuckery is this, i often say it to myself when things are difficult, it's got a cheery wry defiant toughness to it. and she did too.

i prefer "what kind of fuckery are we?" which i do say sometimes.

i came late to her music but she was really really special

i don't care for her music but i really don't need to see her yahoo profile as a 17 year old. unless i want to hate life more.

prolly a really cute toothy and chubby picture of her etc. no no no.

I went got a haircut at the old-timey/contemporary barber shop that I love where they were playing tons Amy Winehouse, and it was making me feel weird and melancholy. I asked my barber if it was some kind of tribute or something, and she said wryly, "Well you know our rule: all Amy Winehouse all the time, and we weren't going to change now." She was serious though - they play music in line with the quasi old fashioned atmosphere, and they'd been heavy on the Winehouse for years, but I'd never noticed. Sort of a somber haircut.

(As an aside, it's hard to explain that barber shop - "old-timey/contempo" sounds potentially pretentious and obnoxious, but they really get it right. The clientele is mixed, pretty gay, and the barbers are mostly 40-something regular guys and gals, except the younger punk-ish guy and the gym-bro-looking dude who is super sweet and soft-spoken. Here is a pic

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Sorry for the derail.

i hate your barbershop.

i love your barbershop.

Well, this is better than bickering about some people being dicks on a RIP thread.

you only need to hear her music for her to be humanised!

so otm. i love that she gave the world the word "fuckery".

"you know i'm no good" was playing in a café i was in yesterday, then on the tube i peeked at someone's ipod and they were playing back to black, and then afterwards they switched to tlc's "waterfalls", which seemed poignant. it wasn't morbid, it felt nice that she was being communally honoured.

fuckery is an old word

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fuckery

yeh i'm pretty sure i'd heard it before "Me and Mr Jones" but still great opening lines in pop history

I assumed Winehouse got 'fuckery' from dancehall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbVp09E1LRg

if youre a londoner you should know the word fuckery

she didn't invent the word, but she OWNED it, spesh with the follow up line about slick rick... seriously, no one pulled retro into the next millennium like amy, rip

rehab is a bit harrowing to listen to after the fact, but that song really just summed so much about her - even now i'm just kinda like "you tell em girl!"

"what kind of fuckery are you? / side from Sammy you're my best black Jew" <3

It's weird, but I always had a problem with Rehab before. Something about the way the chorus became a panto singalong. Now, the song seems in perfect balance, even if, as Lex says, it's a hard thing to listen to.

http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/amy-winehouse/326312-amy-winehouse-death-adopt-st-lucia-bond-theme

Huh.

some interesting thoughts (disclaimer: also mine)
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=3892

amy winehouse - C or D? [RIP 23/7/11] more like. Facking yanks.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/amplifier/89970/tony-bennett-says-amy-winehouse-knew-she-wasnt-gonna-live/

this chick had some pipes

gave up the crack before she died though iirc

Jeez, why do those stupid comments always attract my attention? I know I'll hate them, but I still read them... :-(

Um, below articles I mean, not here. :-)

Because here they don't attract your attention and you don't still read them

"and" maybe should be "or"

Pretty grim.

A radio story I heard this morning said she had briefly given up alcohol and then clearly reembraced it at the time of her death

Sad. I always get so sad when I read about college kids who die that way. I know what it feels like to be too drunk. To get too sick while drunk. To feel regret. To feel like a fool. To wish I was a better, cleaner person. To want someone to comfort me. I'd hate to go out like that.

Yeah, she was an alcoholic in a rush to die and that's a goddamn shame.

CLASSIC. In the four years I've been spinning it, I've yet to tire of "Back to Black." She was a pretty sharp songwriter - and even funny, which is something people overlooked because of her substance abuse problems.

she was an alcoholic in a rush to die

She was an alcoholic who told her doctor the night before her death that she wanted to live.

Her actions certainly belie that plea.

Her actions were those of an alcoholic.

Lots of alcoholics drink too much booze and put their lives at risk. That does not mean they are "in a rush to die". I have had as much booze in my system as she did on several occasions - I wasn't trying to kill myself but was (thanks to the booze) lacking in judgement, leading to increased risk of something going wrong.

Your "rush to die" statement is a bullshit summary of someone trying and failing to overcome an illness.

i think you believe i'm either being blithe, melodramatic or misinformed about the nature of alcoholism and/or about the general tragedy of Winehouse dying and that's leading you into reading that statement as idiomatic

when a woman dies unnecessarily in her twenties after a series of jags with varying addictions and in the middle of an ongoing maelstrom of public attention and personal dysfunction, and given the predilection of her artistic expression as self-identifying as an utter mess, you'd have to be pretty willfully myopic to overlook a pattern of self-destructive behavior unrelated to illness

unless you're identifying an addictive personality as an "illness" which i argue against. you mention the "increased risk of something going wrong" and that's excusable the first dozen times you do it but somewhere down the line you have to say that a person is using a crutch to beat themselves. I do honestly think that she flirted with truly suicidal behavior and while not all people who do this accidentally or intentionally die because of that behavior, she did. That's "rushing to die" to me and it makes me very sad.

"which i WOULD argue against"

a pattern of self-destructive behavior unrelated to illness

Thank you for your report Doctor Forksclovetofu

http://www.mp3waxx.com/jobfolders/amywinehousenas/blast-page.html

And I thought you'd be posting the video of Winehouse and Tony Bennett doing "Body and Soul". Bennett is reading the lyrics off a piece of paper in the video while standing next to Winehouse at a lectern

forks do you work for mp3waxx or

unless you're identifying an addictive personality as an "illness" which i argue against. you mention the "increased risk of something going wrong" and that's excusable the first dozen times you do it but somewhere down the line you have to say that a person is using a crutch to beat themselves. I do honestly think that she flirted with truly suicidal behavior and while not all people who do this accidentally or intentionally die because of that behavior, she did. That's "rushing to die" to me and it makes me very sad.

― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:31 AM (1 week ago)

can i see the relevant literature on this or are we just spitballing here

1. I'm on their mailing list and they sometimes post things of interest
2. We're on the internet; if we can't spitball HERE

some great stuff on the lioness album - donny hathaway cover is pretty delish

is this out or is it just leaked?