Song ID'd: Desloc Piccalo ft. Adiah - Drumz

guess what j0rdan i love this

marcus nasty should play this

this hook is :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP <33

trying to do important stuff but just dancing around my flat by myself to this

wish there was an edit w/o desloc tbh

though I do like other songs i've heard from him

i would like the instrumental to this very much

Naw, Desloc isn't the best thing about this obv, but his parts a v. fun.

first post now ruined ;_;

This is another case of me thinking that the song's lesser parts (Desloc obv) are a big part of its charm.

Yes!

I'm not sure I'd like this as much without "You can Stop! Drop! And rollllll... But you can't put this fire out!"

yes, i wrote on my blog that there's an amateurish charm to the song that i think really works in its favor -- the concept is sorta imperfect, it doesn't seem like they thought the ending out real well, in general it comes off as a bit stitched together. amateurism rubbing up against professional pop isn't usually my thing, but i dig that undercurrent here.

It works because he's going more for Elephant Man than Ace Hood.

well, that goes without saying

Yes. I think (pseudo?) Caribbean amateurishness is a pretty different kettle of fish to other forms of amateurishness in pop and tends to map onto the amateurish/professional divide very differently.

In part because in dancehall (etc) "made in two minutes" and populist success do not seem as inversely proportional as they tend to seem in mainstream western pop.

i don't think they seem inversely proportional in western pop, look at terius (in the good way) and jr rotem (in the bad way)

i like the desloc bits but do wish there was more adiah, just having her on the hook isn't enough

Neither JR Rotem and Terius are exactly amateurish though! Like everything on the first The-Dream album was pretty poliahed, it's only now he's built himself that he thinks "fuck it" and puts out half-hearted crap like "Panties to the Side".

Also the guy who produced LeToya's "All Eyes On Me" is not amateurish! I think there's a difference between the embracing 2010/2011's "deliberately sound like a frankenstein's monster of dance and pop hits" aesthetic and being amateurish per se. Derulo tunes don't actually sound made in 2 minutes. Agreed that they're mostly pretty awful but that's a different metric.

Rotem's most actually-amateurish sounding productions are for Sean Kingston, go figure.

"polished" obv.

terius boasts about making songs in half an hour though, and a lot of the time you can tell (and it doesn't correlate to how good they are - "single ladies" sounds a lot more tossed-off than "panties to the side" for example, but is obviously better)

i refuse to believe jr rotem takes any longer on most of hits than it takes him to copy and paste the horrible obvious sample on top

*his hits

Yes but "Single Ladies" is also obviously a more polished performance in just about every conceivable manner than "Drumz". A lot of this also comes down to a mix of production and performance too - Beyonce is a professional. Derulo can't really sing but he's trying. And the use of big samples actually reduces the sense of amateurism in my opinion because you can hear the money and power and will going into making the result a hit.

I guess the phrase "amateurish" is too broad and vague for the vibe I'm trying to describe. Like I'm sure you'd put Ke$ha (in a bad way) or "Give Me Everything" (in a good way) in that category too and that's not at all the vibe I mean.

If I was looking for an example of real amateurishness (in the sense that I mean) in US pop comparable to "Drumz" I'd probably point to stuff like Baby Bash's "Suga Suga".

O O AYOOOO

this thing has been #1 jam all summer, Adiah kinda makes it feel like dusk and the heat's broken so now you can rejoice and DANCE.

BOO KAK BOO KAKKAK

Yes. I think (pseudo?) Caribbean amateurishness is a pretty different kettle of fish to other forms of amateurishness in pop and tends to map onto the amateurish/professional divide very differently.

You get the same thing with a lot of contemporary African pop (which is obviously heavily influenced by dancehall as well as US hip-hop), and some strands of funky as well. You can get away with a lot if you have charm and energy - the effect of having banged something out in the middle of a party even if most of the time that hasn't happened. You don't get that with most amateurish-sounding rock music, and especially not with someone like Terius who is very polished at his best and doesn't have the charm to compensate for his more tossed off moments, there's rarely a sense of spontenaiety there.

Also no way is Desloc the lesser partner here - you need the roughness and the energy to balance Adiah's smoothness.

Matt gets me. Definitely true of african pop and a lot of funky.

http://soundcloud.com/adiah/adiah-junkanoo-firemp3

desloc h8rs, your time

:)

though tbh i didn't want desloc removed completely and kinda miss him now he's gone

This is pretty patently inferior to the original version.

Also no way is Desloc the lesser partner here - you need the roughness and the energy to balance Adiah's smoothness.

― Matt DC, Monday, 1 August 2011 09:39 (1 month ago)

Wait - does this mean that Drums is no longer the actual song? Or no longer getting a release?

i'm not sure how 'official' "drumz" was in the first place -- i don't think it's adiah's song

but i heard the desloc version on the radio all summer, so i'm sure this is just a re-work or w/e

but yeah the desloc version is far superior

this is cool tho... clearly she's not very developed as a songwriter tho

this is amazing

thank god I ended up on j0rd's P&J ballot and googled this

(((d-_-b)))

my song of the year :D

Not song of the year, but def. up there for me.

i'm so happy that some of y'all latched on to this

i think it could be a dark horse top 20 :o

I really hope so.

Ideally that and the DJ Joker/Sabrina track and maybe the Seany Mac, but the only one I think is a lock on the poll is Desloc/Adiah.

What were the other big 'ILM-only' hits this year?

wait, i thought seany mac wasn't even 2011???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

that for real would've been my #1 on pazz & jop

what's this seany mac song?

Seany Mac isn't 2011. It's 2009/2010. But because none of us new it existed until it showed up on those two mixes in 2011, I rationalized using it for ILM.

Not for Pazz & Jop

It's from 2009 insofar as we have a date on YouTube, but there's no video, no promotion, no release, no writing about it until 2011.

At which point it appears in mixes by How to Dress Well and Physical Therapy and gets written up in FADER and ILM and a couple other places.

\(oo)/

alright, that's cool

i put it #1 on my ilx ballot

what's the seany mac track?

there was some seany mac track i really liked from back then too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLTOZyEhj04

THIS ONE

it is... so good