Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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A Facebook contact of mine named him music's equivalent of Norwegian author Knut Hamsun (who was a nazi during WW2): A brilliant artist, but ideologically not quite there....

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:18 (fourteen years ago)

Damn you've got big roaches.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:18 (fourteen years ago)

it's also frustrating because this type of stuff discredits animal rights and factory food issues that are really important because ppl think "oh those peta people are soooo crazeee"

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

XXXXXP Well, as a hardcore vegetarian I couldn't disagree more. I don't care about the fate of one individual cow or sheep. It's the whole factory farming industry and the crippling effect, processed meat in the form of fast food has on low income communities that bothers me. But I'll admit I'm probably in a minority when it comes to this.

Rebekah Brooks Hardsonned My Hamster (Doran), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

add me to the choir of veg heads who wish morrissey would shut his fucking maw

davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

exactly. I'm on board with the fair and humane treatment of animals in regards to factory food. it's when people go into "you should never kill animals ever, even for food" territory that I get a bit o_O. but that's a stark minority of people (I only know of one person in my life who is vegetarian for that reason)

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

I can totally see Mozzer, in the light of such a tragedy, saying "but what about all the 80s miners that lost their jobs?!". Now it's animal rights, but it could be anything he throws against what happened in Norway. It is querulant trolling.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

I can totally see Mozzer, in the light of such a tragedy, saying "but what about all the millions of cockroaches killed yearly by cans of Raid?"

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

lol

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

I have heard Morrissey referred to on these very forums as some sort of amazing, gifted lyricist who really has a way with words. I have never agreed with this view and I submit as further evidence the fact that he couldn't come up with anything more clever than "Kentucky Fried Shit". Really, Morrissey?

kkvgz, Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

maybe he would be less angry if he was eating at Kentucky Fried Chicken instead of Kentucky Fried Shit

I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

like im a pretty reasonable dude but even i have my limits

I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

otm

I'm goin' hongrø-øøøøøøøøøøø (crüt), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

jjjusten u r my HE-ro

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:31 (fourteen years ago)

i don't even want to know what kentucky fried shit's "double down" would be

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

pig shit in-between two patties of chicken shit

davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

seems p obv to me

davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

i would eat at kentucky fried shit if i was hungry enough but i wouldn't go complaining about it like baby huey here

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

You could just get their mashed potatoes and a biscuit

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

I'd be careful about their gravy, tho

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

w/o gravy, of course

especially w/o gravy

haha goddammit

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

We bet one of our students to eat one and a half Double Downs last summer: the poor dude couldn't sleep for days, suffered migraines, and consumed ten liters of water.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)

Well, I can see that if it's pig shit inbetween chicken shit patties

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

important question: did he report suffering from the "meat sweats"?

I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

Asks the guy dreaming of vodka sandwich...

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

because that is totally a thing, and i know this thanks to a "how many baskets of bacon can you eat" dare that happened one night at the bar

I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

I love this ad--it's basically saying "YES! IT'S REAL? YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN A DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE WORLD WHERE THIS EXISTS!"

http://consumerist.com/doubledown_hdr.jpg

latebloomer, Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

important question: did he report suffering from the "meat sweats"?

fowl sweats

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

It looks like some hideous sea creature emerging from its lair licking its lips and preparing to rip your heart out

xpost

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

I thought you just sweated something like mayo after those

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

http://swittersb.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/a-montauk-ny-sea-creature.jpg

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)

i always thought that KFC Pig Bucket they had was worse than the double down

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/32000/Kentucky-Fried-Cockroaches-----32000.jpg

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

What the fuck is that sunbathing, shaved minotaur thing?

Rebekah Brooks Hardsonned My Hamster (Doran), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:59 (fourteen years ago)

our reporter, transformed into a Double Down.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:59 (fourteen years ago)

As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a KFC Snacker.

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 July 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

daavid, have you heard of false equivalence or are you being dense?

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes I have, but I don't know how it applies to my argument. Look, I'm not saying he isn't an idiot. I'm not saying I agree with his point of view. All I'm saying is I didn't personally find his comment offensive because in my interpretation it had nothing to do with the Norway killings. Although yes, as DJP says, he should've separated the two.

daavid, Friday, 29 July 2011 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

All I'm saying is I didn't personally find his comment offensive because in my interpretation it had nothing to do with the Norway killings.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but your interpretation sounds kinda batshit since he explicitly mentioned the Norway attacks in the very quote!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

I wasn't offended because Morrissey has been a moron since 1986 at least.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

^ what alfred said.

jumpskins, Friday, 29 July 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

and im a miserable vegetarian. i dont know the words to any smiths songs.

jumpskins, Friday, 29 July 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

haha yeah alfred otm

I'm goin' hongrø-øøøøøøøøøøø (crüt), Friday, 29 July 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

Moz was a crucial part of my high school and early college years but even then I understood that anyone who takes his political pronouncements -- whether in song or lecture -- seriously is a cretin who needs to get over the love affair with his or herself. Since when has Morrissey ever cared about other people? Morrissey is his great subject. So of course he would talk like a Lady Thatcher in training.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2011 00:51 (fourteen years ago)

i'm a bit of an absolutist. don't know how you can be a vegetarian without believing similar things.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 July 2011 00:52 (fourteen years ago)

Not to put too fine a point on it, but your interpretation sounds kinda batshit since he explicitly mentioned the Norway attacks in the very quote!

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, July 29, 2011 12:45 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

It is not about Norway. He is using it as a reference to make his point about how horrible is it to mistreat and kill animals.

daavid, Friday, 29 July 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

Moz/Noel - equally short period of 'former glory', leaden pub rock backing bands, outspoken troll behaviour

Can't see Morrissey being a Kasabian fan though.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 29 July 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://i53.tinypic.com/2wm2grc.jpg

online pinata store (Nicole), Friday, 29 July 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

oh hell no

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 July 2011 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

It does succeed in killing any appetite for flesh far better than his statement on Norway ever could.

online pinata store (Nicole), Friday, 29 July 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

ok, you may think he's a cunt, and i always have, but he's a middle-age man, that's what they look like, fuck up.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Friday, 29 July 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)


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