Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

Yeah the morrissey-solo stuff is shameful, esp considering how worshipful that sure was in general

I corresponded w/David back when he was publishing the Sing Your Life fanzine, and I'm hard put to think of a bigger Morrissey fan than him. To see Morrissey treat him so poorly was very disappointing. On the other hand, Morrissey does little else other than disappoint these days.

as soon as I saw this thread bumped, I knew Morrissey had said something stupid about the Oslo attacks...

"Yeah the morrissey-solo stuff is shameful, esp considering how worshipful that sure was in general"

what is this referring to?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/jul/14/morrissey-fans

Oh God, I hadn't heard about that M-solo stuff. I met David T. once in L.A.; he was so nice and appeared uncharacteristically reasonable and sane for a Morrissey devotee. I wonder if he has some sort of masochistic streak though to put up with so much shit from Morrissey. Is it legal to bar someone from attending your concert just because you're unhappy with the website they run?

Queue the Associates "Stephen, You're Really Something".

I hadn't heard about that Morrissey-solo thing either, atrocious.

its cool bro he's not being racist this time (except to the norwegians)

Meanwhile, brilliant timing.

That whole Morrissey-solo thing is a hilarious trainwreck. Any points that La Mozza has towards the aspie rubes on there is wiped out by his shameful attacks on David T, but what would you expect from what is basically now a self-sabotaging figure of fun?

Alright, not just "now".

"Kentucky Fried Shit"

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/3197/394533-kenny_bania_large.jpg

holy shit @ the morrissey-solo incident

it's really difficult for me not to link Moz's treatment of that dude to his comment about the Chinese

^^^ someone had to say it

don't let Morrissey see this thread

he might confiscate your cds

(assuming you have any of his)

I have Smiths CDs that I am considering ditching

really hope that dude puts all of his effort into a Fuck Morrissey website

I've got a shit load of Morrissey stuff on vinyl but I won't put up a fight... according to the Mozzapedia he has been known to sink up to ten pints of Stella in a session and I'm not fighting anyone who is on the combat lager.

37 new posts?

oh great

what did he do now?

he killed somebody

lol

he didn't, right?

he didn't, McDonald's did

I don't find the Morrissey quote about Norway offensive. He's not condoning the attacks in any way, just denouncing what ,in his mind, is equally reprehensible. He's still a twat for of other things he's said though.

Yeah, and it's not like he didn't wait until all those children were buried before harnessing his bizarre claims on to the back of Norway's biggest mass murder in recorded history... oh, hang on. He didn't.

I'd say, statistically there's a relatively 'good' chance that a distraught parent in Norway is taking down a Morrissey poster from a bedroom wall as we speak...

And speaking as a vegetarian of 27 years, what he is claiming is fucking derranged.

I don't find the Morrissey quote about Norway offensive. He's not condoning the attacks in any way, just denouncing what ,in his mind, is equally reprehensible. He's still a twat for of other things he's said though.

― daavid, Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:44 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

All about that last sentence of yours tbh. It's not offensive, it's just ridiculously stupid and basically troll-behaviour to say a thing like this.

And I, too, say that as a vegetarian.

It is not offensive if you believe that he is as truly hurt by the killing of animals as he is by the killing of people. He's not saying: "Oh that Norway thing is as irrelevant as chickens dying every day" It's the other way around. Not that I agree with his views.

We all live in a murderous world, as the events in Norway have shown, with 97 dead. Though that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Shit every day.

He is more hurt by the killing of animals than he is by the killing of people. I think this is what people are reacting against.

Seeing as insane equivalence is the order of the day... I'd be pretty pissed off if the Dalai Lama popped up and said, 'Well, they all must have been wankers in a previous life.' It would probably be a deeply held belief of his but the idea that it wouldn't be offensive, is unreal.

XP: I'm not saying people can't believe this shit but it's the equivalent of the NRI turning up in town the day after Virginia State to hold a rally.

NRA sorry.

I'd be pretty pissed off if the Dalai Lama popped up and said, 'Well, they all must have been wankers in a previous life.'

it would be funny if he was saying that about chickens though

he killed somebody

our fandom!

It is not offensive if you believe that he is as truly hurt by the killing of animals as he is by the killing of people. He's not saying: "Oh that Norway thing is as irrelevant as chickens dying every day" It's the other way around. Not that I agree with his views.

― daavid, Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Indeed. It is not so much as offensive - it is too ridiculous a comparison for that - as it is bloody stupid to compare in the first place. It would be like saying to Mozzer: "Yeah well, screw all those animals, what about the fucking rainforests being chopped down mahnn?"

It's a provocation for the sake of it, and none other. Which is NAGL.

daavid, have you heard of false equivalence or are you being dense?

the thing is, he could have said something about the tragedy and then said something about animals being killed without linking them

...or just for once just said he felt bad about the murders and left his flaccid career and need to be some kind of mainstream press outsider out of it.

I look forward to the 'Who has the worst influence - Moz or Vag?' poll with some interest.

basically, he's a big dummy

Vag will always have more influence. Varg on the other hand...

He is more hurt by the killing of animals than he is by the killing of people. I think this is what people are reacting against.

^^^ this is sort of par for the course with hardcore vegans/vegetarians tho. misplaced loyalties.

frankly this seems like a "posts very much in character" position for Mozzer to take, not surprised (or particularly offended) at all

he could have said something about the tragedy and then said something about animals being killed without linking them

That's what makes it insensitive

He is more hurt by the killing of animals than he is by the killing of people. I think this is what people are reacting against.

He doesn't specifically say that though, I don't think. The way I interpreted what he said is that were "97 dead" in Norway, but a far greater number of beings were killed by McDonalds et al every day. Which is tactless in the extreme, but not untrue.

the funniest part of the whole thing is that no animals are actually killed in either McDonald's or KFC (or as he puts it, KFS)

plus he's assuming that KFC uses chickens in its food.

oh they probably kill some rats or cockroaches, I would think

xp

He was talking about the insectocutor you heartless bastard DJP.