ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

Yeah, he should have his own thread, there's so much to talk about with that album.

it's gonna end up being on my top 10

Seconded. In fact top 5.

I couldn't make it through the frank ocean thing, guess I should try again

don't overthink it

I didn't... This is really what I thought he meant. Racism goes over my head again...

guys

tyler is interviewed by flocka in the new Interview

J0rdan - Is that new Frank Ocean track any good do you know? When I clicked on the link at Pitchfork my Norton informed me something was attacking my computer! Tegan and Sara presumably.

yes, it's really good

http://hulkshare.com/bwb6ffl1bacw

Aw thanks man!!:)

file not found?

hmm was there an hour ago. do you need me to send it via ilx webmail?

forks did you love your password

the cool thing about hulkshare is that you can search on their site

http://hulkshare.com/gsj1e0mwocpb

btw you were right. It is really good, and different to anything on N/U

the beat reminds me of "luv songs"

But nowhere near as good

well, what is?

yeah i just dont think this song is that great in general. good performance though -- and nice review, although i think this hitting the charts is unlikely

yeah, me 2. they should push it as a single altho i'm not sure if radio would buy his falsetto

if "marvin's room" can be a legit hit w/ no promotion, this should be too imo

hey let's go 600 posts on what "legit hit" means in the year 2011 now

i don't think anyone was planning on that

enjoy this but slightly kid cudi naw? lol

thought it was kinda drake-ish to start until he starts singing earnestly

well he can actually sing so that means it's not like either of those. decen falsetto. and not false curtis pharell style/though not necessarily a better attempt.

i am really enjoying this.

yeah to me this is just not a great song qua song -- i cant remember how it goes & ive listened like 5 times now -- but good performance all around

Enjoyed your MellowHype review J0rdan.

got it, thanks

thanking u pandemic

lol, so maybe the reason that frank ocean pulled "thinking about you" from his blog is bcuz it was for another artist

http://lifeandtimes.com/diamonds-are-forever

really good song, whoever it's for

Gotta disagree w you there. What was charming abt it was the performance!

i agree with that -- i like the frank ocean version better

but i think you could argue that it works better w/ someone who is a classically better singer

Yah I mean i'm not writing it off as potentially working w a diff singer

It is p lol that we took the normal characteristics of a reference track for being some kind og interesting artistic statement tho lol

lol i know

such is the game

also considering the conclusion of my review was "frank ocean is not just a songwriter for others, as chris brown might've zinged"

“FLAME: So where does the anger in your music come from?
TYLER: Uh …
FLAME: Is it from issues that you have? Is it from stuff that happened to you?
TYLER: Yeah, shit like that. I get pissed at little shit. Like, Facebook deleted my profile the other day without telling me, and I was fucking angry.
FLAME: Why?”

Steve Albini on sharing an airpot shuttle with Odd Future:

http://www.electricalaudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53523&p=1374892#p1374892

"they piled in, niggering everything in sight"

I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it.

I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator. Ultimately they are, of course, but not necessarily in the crude autobiographical way they are often interpreted.

hmm

I seriously adore (and obv RELATE) to Albini's old crank routine about 95% of the time. But literally every time he talks about rap music he manages to sound like a complete fucking toolshed and borderline racist. He's in the sampling documentary talking about how it doesnt take any talent to sample. Like, come on, dude.

i'd be so psyched to share an airport shuttle with Odd Future

he has produced (yes, produced) some beautiful sounding records but more and more i think the guy is just repellant.

wow the electrical audio bb web server is getting hammered

hope someone got a screencap

"i've got no problem with rapey assholes provided they're not-so-secretly bookish nerds"

the whole thing for posterity

My band shared an airport shuttle with them in Barcelona. They piled onto the shuttle late, after finally getting corralled by their minder, who was nursing a head wound with an ice bag wrapped in a towel. They piled in, niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver, boasting into the air unbidden about getting their dicks sucked and calling everyone in the area a faggot. Then one of them lit a joint (or a pipe, I didn't look) and told the driver to shut the fuck up nigger and smoked it anyway. A female passenger tried to engage one of them in conversation, but he just stared at her with a dead-to-me stare while his seatmate flipped double birds in her face.

The whole trip they complained about not being at a McDonalds and repeatedly shouted for the motherfucker to pull over so they could get some fucking McDonalds nigger. Interspersed with the McDonalds requests were shouted boasts about how often they masturbated and fucked bitches nigger and got paid like a motherfucker fifty grand like a motherfucker. They continued complaining that the trip was taking too long and insisted they be fed immediately all the way to the airport, where their minder presumably fed them.

I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it.

I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator. Ultimately they are, of course, but not necessarily in the crude autobiographical way they are often interpreted.

I know all that, so I am never quick to judge a person based on a superficial reading of creative output. Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in me, to use another rapey example. Michael Gerald from Killdozer said it best in an interview, when the journalist remarked that he seemed like a nice fellow, which was unexpected given that the characters in his songs are often repellent. "Oh, that's not us," he said, "that's the crazy people we sing about." In that light, I am one hundred percent behind Odd Future's right to rap about what they wanna rap about, and if she don't like it fuck her.

And also fuck me. It's none of my business what they wanna. I'm not part of the audience for hip hop, and as a non-dilettante I don't generally respond to it when I hear it, so I can't make any critical assessment of Odd Future's music on its own terms, but they go out of their way to make it clear that this is not a case of regular people making music about assholes, but assholes making music about being assholes. I have no time for that. I don't respond kindly to it when Ted Nugent does it either.

If the whole thing is a put-on, a bit of Vincent Gallo life-as-theater for the benefit of whoever happens to be sitting next to them, that's no excuse. It's being an asshole about being an asshole.