At the time I remember TFC saying they really loved 3rd/Sister Lovers, but that album really bears no resemblance to their own material.
I think they were talking about how they were influenced by Big Star more around the time of "Thirteen". I haven't heard that album in forever, but I think the Big Star comparisons on that album are more on the mark?
Other than that, never heard much similarity. Spin got it right in calling this better than Nevermind, which I'd gladly never hear again...
Yeah, it's much, much better than "Nevermind".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 24 July 2011 07:19 (fourteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)
metal baby and pet rock deserve more votes. interesting that alcoholiday and the concept are 1-2, as they always seemed very similar melodically.
― mizzell, Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:29 (fourteen years ago)
Amazed that December didn't get more votes. I'll have to go back and listen to Alcoholiday again as I can't really remember it. Not heard the album for a while and I seem to think of it (obviously wrongly) as somewhat top-heavy.
― kraudive, Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)
Voted for "is this music"; great sports show end credits stuff
― am I diversified? (blank), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
I like this album, but I wouldn't put it in the same universe as Big Star or the best tracks on Nevermind.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 25 July 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
i might
― monogalomaniacal (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 25 July 2011 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
Sorta surprised by the Alcoholiday love. I don't recall ever hearing anyone single out that song.
Bandwagonesque is definitely one of my fave albums from the 90s, even though Grand Prix and Songs From Northern Britain are technically better albums, imo.
I always found Bandwagonesque super top heavy - side one is golden, and it slips down a few notches on side two - hence my non-appreciation for Alcoholiday.
Pet Rock deserved at least one vote.
― Brooker T Buckingham, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pretty sure I bought Bandwagonesque and Loveless on the same day. I was working in a record store and was going nutty waiting for the shipment to arrive.
― Brooker T Buckingham, Monday, 25 July 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
damn the guitars on this album sound nice.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
i also remember being pretty knocked out (at age 13) by their SNL performance.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pretty sure I bought Bandwagonesque and Loveless on the same day.
WTF the hugest release date ever. And both are on the same label.
― billstevejim, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
also wtf this album is 20 years old???????
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)
20 years is nothing these days.
― billstevejim, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:15 (fourteen years ago)
also re big star it's all about the coda in the concept which sounds like daisy glaze
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:15 (fourteen years ago)
Alcoholiday is one of the great Teenage Fanclub 'Fuck' songs - see also Everybody's Fool, Weird Houses, Fear of Flying, Verisimilitude, and of course Some People Try to Fuck with You.
― ledge, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
(Everybody's Fool maybe not that great. Weird Houses, Fear of Flying and SPTTFWY are blinders tho.)
― ledge, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:18 (fourteen years ago)
star sign single is pretty much _exactly_ 20 yrs old this week
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
sorry that is throwing me for a bit of a loop
"Maybe i've been fucked already" makes me kinda pensive
I love Everybody's Fool.
― billstevejim, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
it's 'baby' not 'maybe', ain't it? maybe, baby.
― ledge, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, it's baby.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
and yeah alcoholiday is the pinnacle of this record
Google search says it's "baby." no fair.
― billstevejim, Friday, 12 August 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
Oddly, TFC rarely play anything beyond 'The Concept' off this album these days. They did an unplanned encore of Starsign in Glasgow last year though
― Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Saturday, 13 August 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
This album is distinctly inferior to Grand Prix. I really don't get the love for it; it seems sort of middling, and also as other have stated, this bears only a passing resemblance to Big Star, mostly in the vocal harmonies,
― Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 09:06 (eleven years ago)
i like grand prix AND bandwagonesque. but i prefer bandwagonesque as it is dirtier, noisier, as it is more like a perfect marriage of distortion and melody. grand prix is a little too clean and slick and therefore boring for my likes. and of course the year 1991 was much more life-shattering than 1994 or whenever grand prix was released.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 16 February 2015 19:13 (eleven years ago)
The songs on Bandwagonesque seem unfinished to me... like they could have done more with them but just decided to be lazy.
― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 21:44 (eleven years ago)
normally, I'd agree that dirtier would be better, but in this case, it doesn't really work for me.
I would take the point about the messier elements of Bandwagon, but to me there are 4 or maybe 5 tunes on there that destroy everything else they did, before or since.
That's what 'saves' it for me - that, and the fuzz
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 16 February 2015 21:45 (eleven years ago)
Songs from Northern Britain tops 'em all, imo
― alpine static, Monday, 16 February 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
listening to these dudes a lot lately. i had never heard grand prix until recently. i don't know if it's better than bandwagonesque but it sure sounds nice.
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:04 (ten years ago)
would not have guessed back in the day that they would have such a consistent, solid catalog 20 years later but here we are
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:35 (ten years ago)
Only one (lacklustre) album in the last 10 years though. Every album they knocked a few edges off until eventually there's nothing left.
― everything, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)
I missed the fuzz...part of that trend of indie bands who really turned the distortion down as the decade progressed
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 20:25 (ten years ago)
I like the last album a lot fwiw
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 21:15 (ten years ago)
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/music_scotland/6944812/Scotlands-greatest-ever-album-Rollin-v-Bandwagonesque.html
― PaulTMA, Monday, 22 February 2016 16:37 (ten years ago)
A place in teh semi - finals now up for grabs.
― Mark G, Monday, 22 February 2016 16:39 (ten years ago)
Listening to this now, it's so obvious now that Supergrass were "inspired" by the riff on 'Satan' when writing 'Richard III' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)
Oh, and this is 'Alcoholiday' all the way. At one point I wouldn't have hesitated to claim Grand Prix was the superior record, but right now I'm not completely sure.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:23 (seven years ago)
that's because Bandwagonesque, Grand Prix and Songs From Northern Britain are three of the greatest rock albums of all time and differentiating between them is basically impossible and oh by the way they were all written and recorded by three core fookin' geniuses and thank god they met each other and formed a band many many years ago.
― alpine static, Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:50 (seven years ago)
wot no thirteen?
― what if bod was one of us (ledge), Thursday, 11 April 2019 09:49 (seven years ago)
― dorsalstop, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:02 (seven years ago)
I agree. I don't think they would have had a hope in hell of being as big as Oasis in the mid '90s, but they should at least have been as big as Suede.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:13 (seven years ago)
In hindsight, I think they picked the wrong singles from Grand Prix, or in the wrong order. Creation had this 'come back with a slow burner' for lead single angle at times and they probably should have just gone for Sparky's Dream from the getgo. Don't Look Back (electric) should have been a proper single as well. The album did well but they should have managed a proper hit or two at the time.
Ain't That Enough of course went top 20, but I think by then that was off the back of it being new material following a relatively successful album. Did it even get much airplay? After then, their top 40 days were over entirely.
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:35 (seven years ago)
Yeah, absolutely. How 'Sparky's Dream' wasn't a huge hit in 1995 is beyond me. I mean, if The Boo Radleys were managing to have hits, then surely Teenage Fanclub should've had them as well. 'Mellow Doubt' is a beautiful song, but not something that screams out "lead single" ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:59 (seven years ago)
to be fair they had one hit
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:02 (seven years ago)
xxxxxpost Thirteen is terrific, but it is not on the level of the other three. (Then again, I don't really think Bandwagonesque is *quite* on the level of GP / SFNB, myself.)
But like if you're a band and Thirteen is not one of your three best albums, you're doing pretty darn good. It's terrific! (I said that already.)
― alpine static, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:04 (seven years ago)
I think it gets a lot of unwarranted criticism simply as a result of being the follow-up to Bandwagonesque.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)
Re-listening to Thirteen now and, yeah, this doesn't deserve half the shit it's had over the years.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)