amy winehouse - C or D? [RIP 7/23/11]

this is really weird... i never really thought she would die suddenly like this, for some reason. i guess i just assumed at some point she would smarten up and be like "whoa i'm completely ruining my life" but i guess that never happens to some addicts. fucked up.

bernard-i think i was somewhat retroactively biased by the fact that I know what I know today and his comments are 4 years old. I really don't have a problem with his 'sentiment' because it's not like he's the first or only person or musician who have feelings like that. so I retract what I said, being that he said this 4 years ago.

xpost: i dont think it happens for MOST addicts. i think we just expect it of large-scale entertainment types because (for better or worse) they have so many people around interested in keeping them alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXSvRWsNJJg

she was SO amazing. her life the last couple of years seemed tragic, as does her death.

she walks awayyyyyyyyy
the sun goes down

this makes me so sad. she made two fucking brilliant records and could have made a million more.

Sometimes you have to hit the absolute bottom before you run out of resources and enabling situations that keep you an addict. Then you need the resources to turn it around. Unfortunately, she had enough enabling in her life that, from reading about her situation, she bounced off the bottom enough times that she never made it away.

This is incredibly sad and it just reminds me of the people I know who continue to burn through all the good will others give them.

This is heartbreaking. Can't believe some of the reactions, some dick on my facebook actually said 'Good riddance to another skag-head' FFS.

way, way, way too soon. RIP.

i didn't really know her music that well, to be honest, but i loved what i knew. RIP.

and also, glad that my friends on fbook aren't being horrible. in fact, most of them are expressing deep sadness. yall need to make better friends.

and also, glad that my friends on fbook aren't being horrible. in fact, most of them are expressing deep sadness. yall need to make better friends.

^^^

the worst i can say is that a few people i follow on twitter are parroting the "27 club" line.

i've blocked most of the ppl whose opinions i don't care about anyway but my FB feed has been nothing but condolences today

everything's coming up winehouse

I saw her play here, and went in with a total open mind. But I left really disappointed, not just by her erratic performance but by the absolute, tight, dead-on performance of her band, from cues to dance moves. It made me think, man, do these guys just not give a fuck at all? Sometimes I wonder the same thing about the dudes backing Lauryn Hill and Brian Wilson. Is it unfair of me to think of them as the ultimate enablers/exploiters/advantage-takers, or are they the only thing keeping these artists afloat at all? I'm torn.

i guess i just assumed at some point she would smarten up and be like "whoa i'm completely ruining my life" but i guess that never happens to some addicts

that's not really what happens to addicts, full stop

brian wilson is doing fine

wow

RIP Amy, you recorded some great, great music

xpost WIlson is fine, but I keep thinking of the "Smile doc, where he's surrounded by all these folks pushing the idea and he just looks like he wants to be anywhere else.

Met her once. Was working in the coffee shop at the CN Tower at the time and she came up to the counter and asked me for a plastic bag. Couldn't really think of anything to say so i just handed her the bag and mumbled something. When i told my friends about it, they gave me a load of stick cos of my dumbstruck reaction. A few weeks later i read this in Rolling Stone

Alongside the world's tallest free-stand-ing tower, one of the world's tiniest pop stars is crouched next to a garbage pail, collecting a pile of eyeliner pencils and mascara tubes between her hands. While Amy Winehouse wanders the courtyard of Toronto's 1,815-foot CN Tower in search of a plastic bag to hold her cosmetics, the man who was her fiancé on that May afternoon but who would be her husband five days later smokes a cigarette from my pack and looks bored.

My brush with greatness

xxpost @ Josh in Chicago: If they're session pros then they're usually there to make that $$ with a smile on their face/looks of intense engagement with the music even if they couldn't really give a f*ck. And if they're really good at what they do then you shouldn't be able to tell they're hating their life as they play for you. (disclaimer: i've personally known/worked with some of these folks.)

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Met her once. Was working in the coffee shop at the CN Tower at the time and she came up to the counter and asked me for a plastic bag. Couldn't really think of anything to say so i just handed her the bag and mumbled something. When i told my friends about it, they gave me a load of stick cos of my dumbstruck reaction. A few weeks later i read this in Rolling Stone

Alongside the world's tallest free-stand-ing tower, one of the world's tiniest pop stars is crouched next to a garbage pail, collecting a pile of eyeliner pencils and mascara tubes between her hands. While Amy Winehouse wanders the courtyard of Toronto's 1,815-foot CN Tower in search of a plastic bag to hold her cosmetics, the man who was her fiancé on that May afternoon but who would be her husband five days later smokes a cigarette from my pack and looks bored.
My brush with greatness

― Number None, Saturday, July 23, 2011 6:47 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

haha this is great

PS Brian Wilson's "That Lucky Old Sun" album from a couple of years back is kind of a "return to form". He at least sounds alive and engaged on that one.

awwwwww no this sucks :(

this really sucks

i guess i just assumed at some point she would smarten up and be like "whoa i'm completely ruining my life" but i guess that never happens to some addicts

that's not really what happens to addicts, full stop

Uh, I seriously beg to differ. My grandmother was a raging alcoholic. I mean, full ON. They gave her months. Now decades later she is healthy (and losing her terminally ill husband).
A client of mine was also an alcoholic. Even lost a finger. He looks dreadful. But he survived. Still has rough periods. But hasn't touched a drink in years.
There are other people I know who contradict this. True they ruined their body, but many do survive (in some way).

Anyway, I am shocked. She's or rather was a decade younger than I am. You never expect this. You know deep down death was a very strong possibility. But still you never want to think it. I am hoping all those pathetic people who were mocking her, making ill-placed comments, feel some sort of guilt. I don't feel any more or less sadness for her than someone else I know. I feel mostly sadness for her family, her friends,...

Anyway, rambling. I was a big fan of some of the singles. Not really the records (as a whole). My dad will be shocked too. He loved her music (or rather soul music.)

don't really understand how dwelling on horrible things said elsewhere on the web and even cut-and-pasting some of it here does this thread any good

any time anything sad or tragic happens in the world, ppl on ilx feel the need to post about all the shitty things that people on the internet are saying

taking the high road generally doesn't involve going HOLY SHIT CHECK OUT THOSE ASSHOLES ON THE LOW ROAD

it happens without fail

sad to meta in 4 posts, yr losin yr touch ilx

otm about it not being a good idea in general. Here i guess it serves as a reminder of the casual cruelty she faced when she was alive though. Casual cruelty that didn't exactly help someone fundamentally incapable of dealing with fame.

i love to watch random youtubes of her singing in low-key environments, like the following: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqSKVv6YO8g&feature=related. totally amazing to me how natural and fantastic her voice is, just a gift. and she doesn't seem incredibly uncomfortable in her own skin like she sometimes does in live concert footage. this is so sad.

some dude & jordan s otm

any time anything sad or tragic happens in the world, ppl on ilx feel the need to post about all the shitty things that people on the internet are saying

― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dr whiney sez:

it's honestly saying "I would like to laugh at this joke, but i don't want to risk social alienation, so I'll temper it with mock outrage." It's the same way everyone was super "concerned" and "upset" about deathdrone because no one wanted to admit its just titillating to watch a psychopath wreak havoc on the internet.

Clips from the early days of her career are amazing. Both her interpretive skill and how gorgeous and full figured she looked. Vivacious, even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajpSeUvCPY&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndu9Uq-eweY

Like, I'm def NOT coming down on the guys that post that stuff like some dude and j0rdan are, I'm just saying we should be a little more honest with ourselves, y'know?

:(

http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5570&Itemid=206

you are so dead wrong on both of those last two posts i can't even tell you, wgw

mostly my point is just that we know that the internet is terrible, we don't need it to be solemnly pointed out that people are racist

It's the same way everyone was super "concerned" and "upset" about deathdrone whiney bannings because no one wanted to admit its just titillating to watch a psychopath wreak havoc on the internet.

haha

Real talk though, it's really sad that an artist on Amy Winehouse's level has like an army of people working with her and for her—record labels, booking agents, handlers, publicists, managers, agents, accountants, lawyers... And it's like no one's job to make sure she doesn't kill herself with drugs.

sad as hell. Always meant to check out more of her music, didn't expect to do so like this.

Real talk though, it's really sad that an artist on Amy Winehouse's level has like an army of people working with her and for her—record labels, booking agents, handlers, publicists, managers, agents, accountants, lawyers... And it's like no one's job to make sure she doesn't kill herself with drugs.

― jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:51 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

well, hold on now

mostly my point is just that we know that the internet is terrible, we don't need it to be solemnly pointed out that people are racist

― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

xxx-post
tbh I continued bitching about Whiney even when he was gone

<3 u man

I responded to one friend who made the standard "why do people talk about this when norway etc etc" claim. Not like I knew Amy Winehouse personally but I liked her music and I know enough people who are trainwrecking their way through their 20s to feel slightly more personally connected and vocal.

also people putting a horrible thought or joke online for anyone to see is a relatively minor (and in most cases unpunishable) crime and it's arguably only as bad as how many people actually do see it, so spreading the word even in outrage is a pretty dumb idea of justice

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. No. No. No.