are disco edits the new electroclash?

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ts: faith evans 'love like this' vs. ugly edit 7

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

'legends of the underground' is the prog of broken beat -- VERY jazzy/noodly with moments of brilliance which are too few. it's the soundtrack to an amsterdam dance troupe's performance, so not inherently club-dancefloor based. it's meant to be a journey, maaaaan.

'black to the future' has its jams (agent k, charlie dark, capitol a) but has too much filler. ditto on the philly distrust.

stick with the bugz fabric, seiji remixes, and the agent k album 'feed the cat' (total brilliance). and domu is 80% quality jams, 20% throwaways, but when he's on, HE'S ON.

― something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 12 June 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, the agent k album is tops. also alex attias and dego selector series discs on goya. oh, and the seiji "demos"/"unreleased cd-r" thing that's floating around slsk if you can find it.

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

also scattered snares (!!!) (can't emphasize this one enuff)

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

my beef is that there are plenty of good tracks out there, so why bother editing 30 seconds of a mediocre song when you can play an entire good one? true, it is bordering on bootlegging. looping the drum break isnt really "editing" per se. sure Carl Craigs 'Ugly Edits' are great, but arent those bootlegs? i think Ben Manzone told me those edits were never meant for release and they were made for his own personal use,and they leaked somehow. i agree with Betty Botox. spinning edits you made yourself is a different thing than essentially bootlegging someones record. its cool when i hear an edit someone made themselves, not for commercial use. doesnt Harvey bust out the reel to reel?
not to mention the edits are selling for upwards of $20 in stores for a record with no artwork or packaging. where is all the money going?

― mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ugly Edits are Theo Parrish mostly, right? I know Carl Craig's Once in a Lifetime edit saw release. Where does the money go? To the editor, of course. Or more likely, the "label" who put it out for the editor. If an edit really makes the track easier to work with, I say great, and if it's totally drastically different and fun, great, but many are not. I've already complained about some of the Ballroom edits/boots on here.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

So are those quiet village project records re-edits then (as I think you said on another thread, Dan). 'Cos they're great. And what are the originals anyway?

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I said so, but someone else did. I haven't really heard any of them except one or two that were floating around the web.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I sure wish I could get Theo P's Ugly Edits for less than the $17 or $18 they sell for on Forced Exposure or Turntable Lab. I've really wanted to hear those, but can't pay that price for a 12" with two edits on it. I second stirmonster's recommendation of the Flying Squad edits, though. Both sides are grand.

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

flying squad's edit of boney m's 'nite flite to venus' is my current fave.

this is pretty decent, I picked it up last week. Word is that Tim Sweeny is behind this one.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.igetrvng.com/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Pillow Talk by Quiet Village is an edit of What Goes Up by Alan Parsons. I'm pretty sure that the begining part is actually from Voyager, which is the track before What on the album Pyramid.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

are you gay are you?

― Breean Weldrick (weldrick), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would have thought that that was a pretty ungay post, really. More 'sad old batchelor'.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

well anyway it's old news to have beefs with disco edits, because disco edits are just a subset of the larger BEARDO DISCO phenomenon.

and as we've discussed elsewhere, BEARDO DISCO is not merely the new electroclash, it is actually the new TRIP HOP.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's the new punk.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

balogna.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

it's pretty much the new trip hop BECAUSE

1) pastiche factor = "hey look, the best moments of old school rap, WITHOUT THE RAP"

2) uneasy hipsters = "hey, couldn't i just be spinning alice coltrane records instead of major force west??"

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

cue james murphy sputtering over early goldsworthy UNKLE productions: "what is this shit?? i have RARE SILVER APPLES ON VINYL!!!"

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

anyway beardo disco is dead, the new shit is mid-70s blue note / columbia / CTI / perception etc.

ronnie laws + kirk degiorgio, yizzeard??

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

4 hero ft grover washington jr - "just the two of us" (junglist version excursion remix)

check for it

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Err, all that has been done before, surely?

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

anyway beardo disco is dead, the new shit is mid-70s blue note / columbia / CTI / perception etc.
ronnie laws + kirk degiorgio, yizzeard??

why not start a new thread! (and leave this one alone?)

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

no, i am just kidding, the main thing i am trying to get across is that the confusion you feel is OK, it's natural, other people dealt with it before you did and they got through it OK, people like the freestylers and bentley rhythm ace.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

someone listing similarities between beardo disco and trip-hop and coming up with antipathy/similarity to old school hip-hop but not coming up with pot pot pot supposedtosmokemarijuana leaves me wondering if they're familiar with the majority of the elements they're talking about or the one they ain't.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

i like "beardo" BTW, whatever it is... all those dudes are into playing all types of music, not just trainspotter disco tracks- hence the Im A Man edit Eric did. and that guy has a BEARD!

― mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

vahid-I have no idea what you're talking about.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

ok anyway the drugs thing is just another similarity b/w the old eclectic trip hop and the new school.

i am serious, the difference in method between the glimmer twins and, say, jon carter or freddy fresh or krafty kuts is a couple of years and a couple of cred pts

xpost it's ok dan i'm thinking out loud and i still like your dj mixes a lot!

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

purposeful obtuseness

xxpost

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

i think this shit is all i care about in dance music anymore

unless some hipsters wanna go ahead and renovate happy hardcore for me. k thnx bye.

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait that eye 12"

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

But Vahid, can you hear the difference between, say, Bentley Rhythm Ace and Quiet Village? There is a difference in style and quality that seems fairly apparent to me.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

i am a structuralist of the old school

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

;-)

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

10-4

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

the carl craig edits are on a label out of amsterdam called moxie. i think he is responsible for most of the releases on that label. i have the one with the talking heads edit and the one with the chic edit and they are ok.

did/do people actually dance to trip hop cause beardo disco seems more amenable to dancing crushing the analogy in the process (as structurally correct as it may be)

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

people did--and do--dance to trip hop. (i think vahid is slightly blurring the line between trip-hop and the slightly less manic/smiley face side of big beat, however.)

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

fair enough.

anyone know if there are there any reel to reel edits sets floating around the internerd?

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.richcolour.com/mastermix/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

actually, start here:

http://www.richcolour.com/mastermix/vol1/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

and see:

http://members.home.nl/discopatrick/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

thank you dan!

does anyone remember the scene from new order's "confusion" video where arthur baker and band bring the reel-to-reel spool to the club? where are the modern freestyle edits?

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh man that site is so sweet

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

The club was the Funhouse, but you also see the ramp up to the Paradise Garage. Best video ever?

If you get off the internet, a lot of the best of these edits/boots (i mean the old ones) are really easy to find, still being pressed, and kinda fun to collect. You can get the Big Apple Productions releases, like volume 2, the Latin Rascals one, at stores all over NYC.

I discovered some hot hi-nrg tracks from a vinyl mix called Aerobic Speedballer Mix.

http://members.home.nl/discopatrick/jdc.htm

don't pay more then like, a buck for these of course.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

people did--and do--dance to trip hop. (i think vahid is slightly blurring the line between trip-hop and the slightly less manic/smiley face side of big beat, however.)
-- applejack carney (wt...), June 12th, 2006 7:01 PM. (dubplatestyle) (later)

yeah i DO mean big beat! but believe it or not i spent 20 minutes this morning trying to remember what it was called ... then i was like "fuck it, i'll call it trip hop". srsly though, you could make the same case about "trip hop" re: delia + gavin.

― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

9 MINUTES OF NON-STOP ENERGY

xpost

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

HI I READ MUZIK IN 1996 TOO

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

ok, no i didnt

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

the question being: who will take beardo disco mega mainstream ala fatboy/chems? are we still in the "amyl house" days?

― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

definitely in contention for best video ever. it's the one i always go back to on the dvd comp.

i like some hi-nrg, but i think what i really like is the slower bpm stuff.

so there should be a beardo cover of "i wonder if i take you home". who should make it? or maybe it's one classic that should be left alone.

i am listening to big apple prod vol 2 now. (after checking out the nutso sigue sigue sputnik mix from the first link which oddly reminded me of the villalobos track on superlongevity 4)

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

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Is pipecock banned again already or something? If not, I'm interested in hearing more about the Mike Dunn set and in what way it changed your view.

― matt2, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:23 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4662/img00036v.jpg

― jaxon, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

no wai

― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

wai

― fleetwood (max), Monday, 5 October 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

that wasn't even at a nerdy record store. was just at your run of the mill hipster haberdashery

― jaxon, Monday, 5 October 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

This has been a fun thread to reread.

― Jacob Sanders, Monday, 5 October 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

Was this a joke TOM PETTY - You Got Lucky (Cosmic Instrumental) b/w Don't Come Around Here No More (Synth-drum Dub)?

― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

never heard a version of You Got Lucky but there is definitely a track out there called Don't Dub Around Here No More (Italians-related ... I think it's done by Tiedye under a different name)

― dmr, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

it's by västkustska ryggdunkarsällskapet, which is tiedye + sankt goran. if you're actually curious

― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

I made a 'combination' mix with Let Me In by El Perro Del Mar and Don't Dub Around Here. I enjoy listening to it this way. Maybe you will to.

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

^ this is awesome! good work

― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Okay, the Cleo & Patra On the Nile EP is really wonderful.

― EDB, Saturday, 2 October 2010 03:52 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

haven't heard an edit i've liked for weeks and weeks now

"african disco power" sort of a nadir in my mind

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

tornado wallace does stuff that sound like disco edits but aren't

― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

cool, i'm hoping people can prove me wrong on this one

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

and why is it the nadir?

― beta blog, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

how funny is it that the only edits i've heard of being released in the past few months is by the starter of this thread

― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

more like a personal nadir - the track title / credentials had me totally excited, and then when i heard it, just total pffffft

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

the new edits from Personal Nadir are amazing.

Afro Cosmic with a Halloween vibe.

― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

(xxpost) Jaxon - Bim Marx just released our latest 12" this month.

― Wayland Flowers And Madman (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

and how are those Simonetti edits? i was underwhelmed by a 12" he put out and have avoided the others since then.
seconding Bim Marx.

― beta blog, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

are r&b edits the new disco edits?

― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

my friend charles sent me a disco edit that he made - and made an acetate of - in 1979 of Instant Funk and man was he ahead of his time. so cool. everything new is old again.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

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