Donna Summer: Search and Destroy?

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"Bad Girls" is the best disco album ever made. There isn't one weak track, however, the last three tracks are of course the real highlight, not only of the album, but indeed of Giorgo Moroder's entire career.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Except for Once Upon a Time, which puts Bad Girls to shame.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

As for post-Moroder, more patchy, yes, but she has had her moments. "Unconditional Love" was a fun effort with Musical Youth, while "This Time I Know It's For Real" was among Stock/Aitken/Waterman's better moments. And I kind of like "Love's In Control" too.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
'once upon a time' has its share of filler, but 'now i need you' and 'working the midnihgt shift' are the best tracks ever. absolutely stunning.

:| (....), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I have to second that, got that rec a week ago and the whole thing's great but those two songs're just heartbreaking ("Say Something Nice" prob qualifies too, not as purely electronic so (yeah) not as wonderful musically but Donna does a great job on a perfect neglected girlf lyric, one of the best times where she tries to be a BIT of a soul singer).

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 24 December 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Having gorged on BAD GIRLS deluxe and ON THE RADIO : GREATEST HITS 1 +2 (all stuff from the Moroder era) i was a-wonderin what else is
best? 'Wasted' comes up now and again as one to hear.

What else?

piscesboy, Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
i picked up the Wanderer because Moroder produced it and it's a steaming pile of dung. i don't get the high marks on amg. and what the fuck is up with that terrible song that MJ blatantly stole for "Black or White"? the whole thing is a bad cock-rock Pat Benetar wannabe

the only redeming song on the entire thing is "Grand Illusion" which is dubbed out and super nice.

El Janko (JasonD), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Has anybody heard I'm a Rainbow?

J0hn D., Monday, 10 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

also, first new album since '91 due in May

J0hn D., Monday, 10 March 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I really need to hear the '82 eponymous album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

"Summer is working with a wide range of collaborators, including DANIELLE BRISEBOIS..."

!!!

(Gregg Alexander too, plz?)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

Has anybody heard I'm a Rainbow?

Yes. It's not very good, a lesser The Wanderer. You can hear the Donna-as-Lene-Lovich "Romeo" on the Flashdance soundtrack. But indeed, every song on I'm a Rainbow feels like soundtrack fodder, the kind of stuff Family Guy would use to make fun of 1980s film montages. Catchy, though. Too catchy maybe. And it might be a concept album (can't recall). Another deficiency: it includes her "Don't Cry For Me Argentina."

Once Upon a Time... is prolly my fave despite a crappy side three (the woman has serious side three problems). And there's some great porn on the earlier discs.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

I've never gotten around to The Wanderer either, though "Cold Love" is my favorite of her rock moves.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a Rainbow is one of my favorite Summer albums, and "People Talk" one of my favorite tracks!

Patrick South, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

No one's bought Crayons? I like it a little better than Eric -- my review comes out this week.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

Girlie Action sent me the promo - I think it picks up real nice after a very, very disappointing and rocky start. But I don't see it changing anybody's life or dancefloor, sadly.

J0hn D., Tuesday, 27 May 2008 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

I heard rumors that she was hooking up with the Freemasons for this album or something? y/n?

musically, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Girlie Action sent me the promo - I think it picks up real nice after a very, very disappointing and rocky start.

OTM. The second side is the killer, but it's not totally aerodynamic either. Points for weirdness, though (tropicalia? blues?).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

For the love of god, people. This woman is too much.

"There Will Always Be A You"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXeNh4eCjw&

"Love Is In Control"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KEUrHzKg_E

"MacArthur Park"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNknNoCBYfw

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:11 (seventeen years ago)

OH! I finally heard The Wanderer and Eric H and Marcello's beloved 1982 eponymous album. The latter is much better than expected, and the former verging on great. Much more consistent than the pre-Bad Girls Moroder-Bellotte recordings, and I like the desperation and weariness that made her run into the arms of Christianity. She's having a "Breakdown," she's "Running For Cover," until she affirms that "I Believe in Jesus."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 23 August 2008 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

1982 eponymous album?? I only remember the Wanderer single and I remember not liking it much at all.

Gosh thanks Alfred, I'm really glad you're awake right now. I already said it elsewhere but my daddy gave me the State of Indepedence 7" single at Christmas and I'll never forget it. I must have been...11?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 23 August 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to the eponymous '82 album, now. Really strange to hear "The Woman In Me" and realize I used to have that single. I barely remember that song, though, and I don't like it very much, but there are other very cool things on this album for sure. This is a great album.

"Livin' In America" is good fun! Can we make it Obama's campaign theme song? And WOAH HO! Check out the synths on "Love Is Just A Breath Away". Surely that song is more fun than the cops will allow? And "Lush Life" is really beyond words. Fuck me, even Sheila E.'s first album ain't that good.

I'm going to see if I can get the Wanderer album next.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 31 August 2008 11:52 (seventeen years ago)

Try Me I Know We Can Make It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ffIuIpnETA

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 31 August 2008 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

Eponymous is my favorite Donna album by a pretty long shot. Only I Remember Yesterday comes close for me, based mostly off the strength of its bookends.

Eric H., Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Bad Girls is certainly more consistent than the albums that came before it, in that it's flat and predictable.

Eric H., Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

by the way, She Works Hard For The Money's "I Do Believe (I Fell in Love)" is my favorite Summer ballad.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 31 August 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

Very odd how little love A Love Trilogy gets here. "Try Me, I Know We Can Make It" is easily one of Moroder's best non-electro disco cuts (and great as they are, by and large the only thing people are praising here IS his electro disco cuts -- the electronic songs on Once Upon A Time, fourth side of Bad Girls etc.). But for 18 minutes, "Try Me" is every bit as good as those cuts, shifting dynamics and rhythms -- the amount of growth from "Love To Love You Baby" to this is pretty remarkable in retrospect. And on the second side, "Wasted" and "Come With Me" are outstanding as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 31 August 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)

"Could It Be Magic" is fantastic. That album is awesome too, though to me it mostly feels like a proto CD maxi-single or something.

Eric H., Sunday, 31 August 2008 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Okay, hey, wait just a minute now. When I was wee lad and had my "On The Radio" double LP compilation of her work, and which included a shortened version of "McCarthur Park", no one told me about this "McCarthur Park Suite" thing with some other song tucked inside it called "One Of A Kind". It came from her 1978 "Live and More" album apparently, which I've never even heard...and there are apparently two different versions of it (the other from a 12"), so I haven't been able to get this all straight, yet. But this is really slaying me right now, this long suite. Also it has "Heaven Knows" as part of it, which was featured separately on the On The Radio compilation, and which I have not had the pleasure of hearing in many years.

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 11 October 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

I Remember Yesterday is great...as white as quality disco ever got and that includes Saturday Night Fever and "The Wiz".

Sven Hassel Schmuck, Saturday, 11 October 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

Oh for the love of fuck

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 11 October 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

Bimble, what if youtube had never been invented?

I know, right?, Saturday, 11 October 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

Then I would be flipping through records in the store like the old days. And I wouldn't be able to find any Velvet Underground bootlegs at all, and that would make a Bimble very sad. ;_;

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 12 October 2008 00:07 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, look, I'm nuts about this "Heaven Knows" song she did with Brooklyn Dreams. I haven't heard it since my childhood but GOD what a song!!!! And I love her green tunic in this video, too.

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 12 October 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

NO way, no way, listen to the rock and roll ending of the gigantic masterpiece that is her duet with Barbara Streisand "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" no seriously check out that guitar solo. Who the hell did that guitar solo towards the end? WOW.

Dracula Tells Superman What To Do (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 12 October 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Donna on the Johnny Carson show, 1978. Look for the interview at the end. Skip the whole song if you have to, just look at the interview. She's a fucking amazing woman, people. Fucking amazing.

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Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Okay look, I need talk about Donna with folks who know her 70's and early 80's career. I don't know anyone to talk about this shit with.

My end conclusion was that "A Love Trilogy" was the absolute shit by miles over anything she'd ever done, but I also found that there was a whole lot of wonderful stuff in the Bad Girls album I hadn't appreciated before.

Now I just finally got the "Four Seasons Of Love" album, and it sounds like such a joy, the first track, because I can't believe I didn't have all her 70's albums already after all. Though I admit I still don't have the first one.

But to be honest, several of her 70's albums left me flat. Gotta pick and choose really carefully, in my opinion. "Once Upon A Time" is just sappy at times. Whatever the one is with "Remember" in the title sounds too 50's-ish for my tastes. Etc.

"A Love Trilogy" is where it all really comes together in my opinion. But fuck me (butt fuck me) if this "Four Seasons of Love" sounds fucking good so far.

And if I have to collect everything Giorgio Moroder ever did, then it's probably none of your business, is it? LOL

What I was wishing for actually was a big double CD reissue of "A Love Trilogy" with BONUS TRAXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Oh well.

Jesus fucking Christ there's a song on here called "Summer Fever". I rest my case. I've got the fever, man. Oh my god.

Oh, it's just a Tina Turner, no big deal (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 6 December 2008 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

In the break, in the middle of "Autumn Changes" she says "Yes We Can/Sure We Can/Yes We Can/Sure We Can"

LOL

Oh, it's just a Tina Turner, no big deal (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 6 December 2008 11:37 (seventeen years ago)

Love To Love You Baby

Oh, it's just a Tina Turner, no big deal (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 6 December 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I want you to watch this and tell me she is not the hottest woman to ever hit a stage.

&

Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:03 (seventeen years ago)

Hetero boys get out of the way. Gay icon moving through.

Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

She fries the hell out of gay boys, though, doesn't she?

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Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

So if I'm moving on with my Moroder obsession, Love Trilogy is the next one to get? Or should I get this "Bad Girls" comp and go exploring from there?

The Boring Machine (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 1 February 2009 08:05 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I'm sorry I'm not familiar with a compilation called Bad Girls. I am familiar with the album of the same name, though. You can get Love Trilogy or Bad Girls. It doesn't matter, both will scratch a Giorgio Moroder itch. In fact, listen to "Our Love" first to prove it to yourself that Moroder is a synthesizer badass.

Then check out this Heaven Knows video:

I know, I've gone nuts over her again. And I will continue to go nuts over her until I convince the whole world that some of her late 70's material absolutely kicks ass. I won't give up.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

I Love You

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

Last Dance

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:56 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Just to give you some company on this thread, thanks for collecting up the clips. I hadn't heard much DS beyond the megahits, but damn, my loss 'cos she is amazing. "Our Love" on repeat.

that's not my post, Monday, 13 April 2009 06:18 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks for posting! I really appreciate it. I get pretty lonely in my Donna love. Just don't really know anyone who's as into her 70's stuff as much as I am. That said, I've kindof gotten away from her of late.

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 03:05 (seventeen years ago)

i thought everyone loved disco

flopson, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

I thought the people who hated disco had moved on to hating rap.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

On NPR this morning, they miscomprehended this admittedly badly-written press release, and said that Donna Summer had a huge hit in 1977 with "Rapper's Delight."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

An interesting (nerdy) article on the making of "Love to love you baby" and "I feel love", incl. mic choices, using tape-as-sync, and an orgy

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct09/articles/classictracks_1009.htm

poxen, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

I've read in the last week comments about Summer's lack of "technical" competence. How is this even a serious question for a multi-octave singer?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

who the hell is saying that

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Once in this very thread, I think.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

SHOW YOURSELF

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

I'd put "Lack of technical competence" slightly above "fat" on a list of dumbest crits you could level at a pop musician

poxen, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

this is a woman who scored a hit off a Bocelli opera piece in the late nineties.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

It was sort of the height of the Andrea Bocelli craze tho.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

and he wasn't around to see it

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

You're too short for that gesture.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

The only time I've thought "huh" about Donna's singing was on "No more tears", mostly just cuz I could picture Babs getting cussy at her in the third person on some of the unison bits

poxen, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Practice English past tense verbs with Donna Summer's "On the Radio"!

http://www.esolcourses.com/content/topics/songs/various-artists/on-the-radio.html

game of crones (La Lechera), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

irregular past tense verbs, that is

game of crones (La Lechera), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

ten years pass...

i love everything about this performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC8cCqblNas

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 March 2023 00:45 (three years ago)

eight months pass...

I liked the new doc from HBO. It had a lot of artsy touches that kept it interesting. It’s nice that seemingly her whole family got involved in it.

I’d never seen pictures of her first (German) husband. He looked like a little kid!

Josefa, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:14 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

It's on Sky Arts right now!

pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 13 September 2024 19:06 (one year ago)

I should advise people that it's not totally thorough in terms of looking closely at all of her music, and it may have a little too much of her family in it for some viewers.

Josefa, Friday, 13 September 2024 19:53 (one year ago)

oh i saw it on an airplane and LOVED IT -- my favorite part was when i learned that she was responsible for suggesting the arpeggiated synth (?) in "i feel love" in Germany and potentially changing the path of popular music singlehandedly?!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 13 September 2024 20:26 (one year ago)

It also covered her homophobia pretty well -- I thought that was also interesting. It was a good doc!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 13 September 2024 20:26 (one year ago)

She said such nice things about Giorgio too.

pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Friday, 13 September 2024 21:09 (one year ago)


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