― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 28 February 2004 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)
"Contact The Fact" ROXOR!
(help I've turned into Geeta) ! ! ! !
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 28 February 2004 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)
(Ordered mine a while ago, but it hasn't shown up yet.. waaah, I want it now!)
― Muppet Boy, Saturday, 28 February 2004 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 28 February 2004 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― jazz odysseus, Saturday, 28 February 2004 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)
haha i've come to like the production. there's much to like about Hugh Jones' work, definitely.
― the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 28 February 2004 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 28 February 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 28 February 2004 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 29 February 2004 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Clarke B., Sunday, 29 February 2004 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)
I got the dual disc BBC Recordingsdisc and, well, holy fucking shit. Multiply all previous "they shoulda been huge" comments by a factor of 100.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 February 2006 08:16 (twenty years ago)
The SoundHouse of LoveChameleonsEcho and the Bunnymen
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)
Sounds like a plan to me!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 February 2006 08:24 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 February 2006 08:25 (twenty years ago)
Am listening to All Fall Down this very second and "Monument" just finished. Dr. C said it a couple of years ago so I don't have to.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― San Carlos, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/magicbullets
― San Carlos, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)
I suspect I'd probably think Winning was a lot nicer if the 'I'm gonna make it after all!' sentiment wasn't offet by the 'Hang on a minute, this guy jumped in front of a train three years ago!' realisation
In my case, I now realize that I have the exact opposite feeling about the Sound and Adrian B. -- when it comes to figures like, say, Jim Morrison or Ian Curtis, their sound and the post-death cults (for lack of a better word) combine to create a resultant expectation that is often hard to properly escape, especially if like me you encounter them well after the fact.
Admittedly I did the same with the Sound as well, hearing them first well after their breakup but before Adrian died, but like, say, Billy Mackenzie and the Associates, when I hear the Sound I hear life, I hear exultance for lack of a better word. For all the most intense moments that Adrian can create with his words and singing, there is a grace and soaring resonance that causes me to rise, not sink. The comparisons with U2 and Bono don't work for me because there is something here that is strong but not overbearing, a true warmth -- and the more I think about so many of the band's contemporaries, the more that seems to be near unique, that the lighter singing voice (if only by degrees in some cases) compared to others is what gives the Sound its unique feel still for me.
I hear the Sound and I hear an embrace, not hectoring or rabble-rousing. That to me is a true gift.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)
That for me is spot on, and nicely put to boot.
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)
Also, that sort of warmth you talk about is really evident on "Fatal Flaw" - that sort of falling-into-place moment when it reaches the motif that repeats to the end is one of my favourite drawn-out repetitive outros of ooh, ever.
― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)
Thanks for the revive - that 5CD set is so great.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 June 2018 00:06 (eight years ago)
Finally getting around to the Outsiders with Cherry Red's predictably excellent CD reissue of Calling On Youth.
First impression, for one of the supposedly "important early independent punk" albums, it's not actually very punk, is it? I mean, the guitar playing is way too good to actually be punk, and side two of the album is just kind of slow and quiet for the most part. Adrian's obviously really young and overly ambitious here, but he's obviously pretty charismatic, even at this very early point. Overall though, pleasantly surprised.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Sunday, 22 July 2018 05:06 (seven years ago)
Taking in Close Up this evening and, I have to say, it's pretty much an all around improvement over Calling On Youth. Production, songs, technicality. . . just better on all fronts. Definitely segues nicely into the Propaganda era (which subsequently segues perfectly into Jeopardy).
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 03:57 (seven years ago)
https://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2018/12/what-are-spectral-projections.html
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 14 December 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)
https://www.discogs.com/master/2523988-The-Sound-Will-And-Testament-Starlight
Uhm?
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 24 April 2022 21:17 (four years ago)
oh wow! a live album of their later material i guess
look like it's all up on yt:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mbq2cGjX8M
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 24 April 2022 21:32 (four years ago)
Yep, on Spotify too.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 24 April 2022 22:53 (four years ago)
this incoming second layer comp popped up on bandcamp today:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/album-of-the-day/second-layer-courts-or-wars-review
hadn't actually heard 'courts of wars' before... fuuck, amazing song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_01T9uFgew
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:22 (three years ago)
'or' not 'of' obv
yeah I first heard second layer through that song on a Messthetics comp. So cool!!
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:40 (three years ago)
“that song” - courts or wars
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:41 (three years ago)
(wide eyes emoji)
i'll be back in later with thoughts.
― kiss me while the world decays (Austin), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:47 (three years ago)
Second Layer is arguably more Joy Division THAN Joy Division. Fantastic, singular work - wonderfully dark and deep.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:03 (three years ago)
Hey Austin, in case didn't hear about this book:
Destiny Stopped Screaming: The Life and Times of Adrian Borland https://www.amazon.com/dp/9090379355/
I am a notoriously slow reader and likely won't get to this for yonks.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 20:43 (one year ago)
ahhh thanks for thinking of me ― definitely of interest! reviews look pretty positive. in my wishlist.
unrelated but the trash theory youtube channel recently did 7 Influential Post-Punk Bands You Should've Heard and the feature on the sound begins around 41mins. it's a good overview and i was thrilled to see them featured.
― MUFFY TEPPERMAN WAS THE OG KAREN (Austin), Wednesday, 15 January 2025 23:54 (one year ago)
Yeah, I saw that. Adrian's gone 25 years and I'm always chuffed to see he's not forgotten.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 16 January 2025 03:06 (one year ago)
I only discovered this band recently with From the Lion's Mouth, which is great! I think I'd heard about them numerous times here and other places over the years but maybe their generic name had me confusing them with other bands. Anyway, that's remedied now, look forward to listening to the rest!
― Vinnie, Thursday, 16 January 2025 16:59 (one year ago)
I just realised I only know this band because of Jeopardy, which is obviously fucking great, and their first single, and I don't actually know any of their other stuff. I had no idea they had so many albums
I have the reissues of both Outsiders albums and love both of those, love Second Layer and the Witch Trials, funny/sad I know so little of Borland's music after that
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 18 January 2025 02:02 (one year ago)
First I heard of them was seeing a clip on one of those Whistle Test compilation shows that used to be on BBC Four, well over 20 years ago now. It was them playing “Sense of Purpose” and I was mesmerised; Borland was like a British Bob Mould to me! I got the Revenant CD of From the Lions Mouth soon after and I’ve loved it ever since (just got the vinyl reissue too).
It was only later, after learning more of their back story, that my realised late uncle might have known them; he toured with Echo and the Bunnymen back in the day doing their lights.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 18 January 2025 13:27 (one year ago)
*realised my
it's officially unavailable digitally, but it needs to be heard: the band's john peel session from november 81. setlist is: fatal flaw, hothouse, new dark age, skeletons. the 'hothouse' they play here is the definitive: one round of the chorus will suffice, otherwise enjoy the tension.
― MUFFY TEPPERMAN WAS THE OG KAREN (Austin), Saturday, 18 January 2025 13:34 (one year ago)
Yeah the way that version of Hothouse transforms the song is incredible, that Peel session always worth a listen
I listened to a live version of Sense of Purpose on Spotify after that and that thumping final stretch gets me hyped every time, would love to have seen them do that live
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 19 January 2025 16:00 (one year ago)
Borland was like a British Bob Mould to me!
hadn't ever occurred to me before, but yeah i totally get that - that raw urgency to communicate truths that feel like they're burning a hole right through them, that other place they both seem to go to when they're channeling that through a guitar. lots of my own teenage angst bound up in both back catalogues, both sometimes kind of painful for me to listen to now for that reason tbh
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Sunday, 19 January 2025 16:33 (one year ago)