HOWEVER, yeah, they take marching band pretty seriously down south and a lot of those kids have incredible chops. We were standing outside of Tipatina's during a parade last Mardi Gras and this high school trumpet line came by blowing high F's and we were like WHAT?! I think that a huge majority of New Orleans brass band musicians came up in those bands and always check them out during parade season, etc.
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I am also interested in Jordan's mix.
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
But still go to Donna's and the Maple Leaf and Le Bon Temps and Cafe Brasil!
most of which are hosting jam bands anyway)
Oh god this is so horribly OTM.
Send me your address.
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 25 November 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 25 November 2004 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 November 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 26 November 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 27 November 2004 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link
In Tower Records I noticed in the new Downbeat magazine a nice article on New Orleans brass bands and more. The Stooges Brass band, Hot 8, and Soul Rebels are all here. I haven't checked to see if the article is online.
As a contributing supporter of afropop.org I get a weekly e-mail thing from them. This week they have a nice photo-essay by Ned Sublette(musician, musicologist and author of that immense book on Cuban music) on New Orleans. Sublette is living there for awhile and studying the Caribbean roots of New Orleans. He's got an interview with Donald Harrison and some others. I think you can check it all out at afropop.org
― steve-k, Saturday, 26 March 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― steve-k, Saturday, 26 March 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve-k (Steve K), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
I think one was called Yarl River Blues Band.
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Sunday, 27 March 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Sunday, 27 March 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I'll be going down to Jazzfest the first weekend to play with Mama Digdown's and see brass bands, can't wait.
― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 March 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
From the April issue excerpt on Downbeat's website:
Next Generation New Orleans Brass BandsBrass Beyond The Streets
By Jennifer Odell
Philip Frazier honks his sousaphone on a chilly January Sunday on the corner of Daneel and 3rd streets. Musicians start to shuffle away from the crowd milling outside the Bean Brothers Bar and strap on horns and snare drums, ready to get their roll on. Dancers for the Undefeated Dicas Social Aid and Pleasure Club come around the corner and tubas, sousaphones, saxophones and bass drums fall in line as the Divas belt out The Staple Singers’ “I’ll Take You There.”
Winding past Mary’s Nightowl Bar, Candlelight Bar, Sandpiper and The New Look, the parading community group hits all of the Uptown neighborhood’s brass band stops. Ostrich plumes fan the air above the Divas in time with Frazier’s non-stop vamps. When the dancers slow down and form a circle, trading moves with kids, the band plays even harder, echoing braay swueals off the projects across the street. This is how brass band music was born.
But it’s growing up. And while playing the second lines and funerals remains important, many of today’s hottest brass players are concentrating more on polishing their CDs and getting national recognition than on stealing the show on Sunday afternoons. The current generation is following the successful business model created by the Dirty Dozen and Rebirth brass bands; updating a traditional sound to make the music relevant to a larger audience. And with each step forward, another cross-breed of the brass band sound is born. Mardi Gras Indian bands like Big Sam’s Funky Nation are based in funk, the Soul Rebels are purveyors of hip-hop and the Hot 8, New Birth and the Stooges hold down the street scene with their bebop-heavy takes on the traditional style.
― Steve-k (Steve K), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
MARDI GRAS 2005: a photo essay by Ned SubletteAlso Check out Interviews with Joseph Roach, Donald Harrison, and Vicki Mayer by Ned Sublette
― Steve-k (Steve K), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― imbidimts, Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 March 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
The only recording of I've heard of Kermit where he sounds really good is Treme Brass Band's Gimme My Money Back, which is ten years old.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― steve-k, Monday, 28 March 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Have you heard the Stooges and Hot 8 cds, Steve?
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― steve-k, Monday, 28 March 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Jordan is SO SO SO OTM about Hot 8.
― adam (adam), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I love Hot 8 to death and I'm so happy that they finally put out a damn record. I wish the mix did a little more justice to the drummers (same for the Stooges record actually), but it's really good anyway.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― steve-k, Friday, 8 April 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Johansen (nordicskilla), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
MAKE IT FUNKY!Michael MurphyUSA, 2005, TBD
New Orleans is at the center of this story about musicians who brought funk to rhythm & blues and rock & roll. Featuring Big Sam's Funky Nation, the Neville Brothers and Allen Toussaint, with special appearances by Bonnie Raitt and Keith Richards.
Friday 6/17 at 9:30 p.m.Saturday 6/18 at 3:15 p.m.
FREE OUTDOOR MOVIES & MUSICAt the SILVER PLAZA in Downtown Silver Spring
MAKE IT FUNKY!Friday night fun will surely ensue when New Orleans funk legends Walter Washington and Big Sam's Funky Nation perform live in conjunction with MAKE IT FUNKY!, yet another film in our fabulous - and FUNKY! - Music Documentary strand.
Friday 6/17Music starts at 7:30 p.m., film rolls at 9:30 p.m.FREE!
― Steve K (Steve K), Friday, 27 May 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Back to New Orleans stuff-I've seen Big Sam's Funky Nation mentioned in Offbeat but I don't know anything about them.
― steve-k, Friday, 27 May 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 May 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Will(iam), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― steve-k, Friday, 27 May 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Will(iam), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
September 8, 2005Jazz Musicians Ask if Their Scene Will SurviveBy BEN RATLIFF, New York TimesNew Orleans is a jazz town, but also a funk town, a brass-band town, a hip-hop town and a jam-band town. It has international jazz musicians and hip-hop superstars, but also a true, subsistence-level street culture. Much of its music is tied to geography and neighborhoods, and crowds.
All that was incontrovertibly true until a week ago Monday. Now the future for brass bands and Mardi Gras Indians, to cite two examples, looks particularly bleak if their neighborhoods are destroyed by flooding, and bleaker still with the prospect of no new tourists coming to town soon to infuse their traditions with new money. Although the full extent of damage is still unknown, there is little doubt that it has been severe - to families, to instruments, to historical records, to clubs, to costumes. "Who knows if there exists a Mardi Gras Indian costume anymore in New Orleans?" wondered Don Marshall, director of the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival Foundation.
"A lot of the great musicians came right out of the Treme neighborhood and the Lower Ninth Ward," said the trumpeter Kermit Ruffins, temporarily speaking in the past tense, by phone from Houston yesterday. Mr. Ruffins, one of the most popular jazz musicians in New Orleans, made his name there partly through his regular Thursday-night gig over the last 12 years at Vaughan's, a bar in the Bywater neighborhood, where red beans and rice were served at midnight. Now Vaughn's may be destroyed, and so may his new house, which is not too far from the bar.
On Saturday evening Mr. Ruffins flew back to New Orleans from a gig in San Diego, having heard the first of the dire storm warnings. He stopped at a lumberyard to buy wood planks, boarded up 25 windows on his house, then went bar-hopping and joked with his friends that where they were standing might be under water the next day.
The next morning he fled to Baton Rouge with his family, and now he is in Houston, about to settle into apartments, along with more than 30 relatives. He is being offered plenty of work in Houston, and is already thinking ahead to what he calls "the new New Orleans."
"I think the city is going to wind up being a smaller area," he said. "They'll have to build some super levees.
"I think this will never happen again once they get finished," Mr. Ruffins added. "We're going to get those musicians back, the brass bands, the jazz funerals, everything."
Brass bands function through the year - not only through the annual Jazzfest, where many outsiders see them, and jazz funerals, but at the approximately 55 social aid and pleasure clubs, each of which holds a parade once a year. It is an intensely local culture, and has been thriving in recent years. Brass-band music, funky and hard-hitting, can easily be transformed from the neighborhood social to a club gig; brass bands like Rebirth, Dirty Dozen and the Soul Rebels have done well by touring as commercial entities. Members of Stooges Brass Band have ended up in Atlanta, and of Li'l Rascals in Houston; there could be a significant brass-band diaspora before musicians find a way to get home to New Orleans. (Rebirth's Web site, www.rebirthbrassband.com, has been keeping a count of brass-band musicians who have been heard from.)
The Mardi Gras Indian tradition is more fragile. Monk Boudreaux is chief of the Golden Eagles, one of the 40 or so secretive Mardi Gras tribes, who are known not just for their flamboyant feathered costumes but for their competitive parades through neighborhoods at Mardi Gras time. (Mardi Gras Indians are not American Indians but New Orleanians from the city's working-class black neighborhoods.) Mr. Boudreaux, now safe with his daughter in Mesquite, Tex., stayed put through the storm at his house in the Uptown neighborhood; when he left last week, he said, the water was waist-high. He chuckled when asked if the Mardi Gras Indian tradition could survive in exile. "I don't know of any other Mardi Gras outside of New Orleans," he said.
These days a city is often considered a jazz town to the extent that its resident musicians have international careers. The bulk of New Orleans jazz musicians have shown a knack for staying local. (Twenty or so in the last two decades, including several Marsalises, are obvious exceptions.)
But as everyone knows, jazz is crucial to New Orleans, and New Orleans was crucial in combining jazz's constituent parts, its Spanish, French, Caribbean and West African influences. The fact that so many musicians are related to one or another of the city's great music families - Lastie, Brunious, Neville, Jordan, Marsalis - still gives much of the music scene a built-in sense of nobility. "Whereas New York has a jazz industry," said Quint Davis, director of Jazzfest, "New Orleans has a jazz culture." (Speaking of Jazzfest, Mr. Davis was not ready to discuss whether there will be a festival next April. "First I'm dealing with the lives and subsistence of the people who produce it," he said. [Since this article ran, they announced that the Fest will take place somewhere in Louisiana next April-steve k])
And most jazz in New Orleans has a directness about it. "Everyone isn't searching for the hottest, newest lick," said Maurice Brown, a young trumpeter from Chicago who had been rising through the ranks of the New Orleans jazz scene for the last four years before the storm took his house and car. "People are trying to stay true to the melody."
Gregory Davis, the trumpeter and vocalist for the Dirty Dozen Brass Band, one of the city's most successful groups, said the typical New Orleans musician was vulnerable because of how he lives and works. (Mr. Davis's house is in the Gentilly neighborhood; he spoke last week from his brother's home in Dallas.)
"A lot of these guys who are playing out there in the clubs are not home owners," he said. "They're going to be at the mercy of the owners of those properties. For some of them, playing in the clubs was the only means of earning any money. If those musicians come back and don't have an affordable home, that's a big blow."
Louis Edwards, a New Orleans novelist and an associate producer of the Jazz and Heritage Festival, said, "No other city is so equipped to deal with this." A French Quarter resident, Mr. Edwards was taking refuge last week at his mother's house in Lake Charles, La.
"Think of the jazz funeral," he said. "In New Orleans we respond to the concept of following tragedy with joy. That's a powerful philosophy to have as the underpinning of your culture."
In the meantime, Mr. Boudreaux, chief of the Golden Eagles, has a feeling his own Mardi Gras Indian costume is intact. He was careful to put it in a dry place before he left home. "I just need to get home and get that Indian suit from on top of that closet," he said.
― steve k, Sunday, 11 September 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― steve k, Sunday, 11 September 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 12 September 2005 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link
One of the weird side effects of this whole thing is that most New Orleans musicians are instantly on tour as of now, since that's the only way they can make some money. I sent a snare drum down to Rebirth last week and saw them play up here a few days ago, and we're playing a benefit show with the Stooges in a couple weeks too. Apparently Bill Summers and Davell Crawford played in Minneapolis tonight, etc.
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 September 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Melissa A. Weber (a.k.a. Soul Sister), D.J. and scholar“Right Foot” by Rebirth Brass Band
A special characteristic of New Orleans jazz is its function as dance music. It invites audience members to not spectate, but participate. In the New Orleans brass band jazz tradition, the pioneering Rebirth Brass Band has specialized in making people dance since the group formed 40 years ago, while its founding members were teenagers. In 2008, they rerecorded their original song “Put Your Right Foot Forward,” first released in the mid-1980s as a 45 on the local SYLA label. It’s a classic that other brass bands have added to their repertoires, whether on the stage or in the second-line streets. (Listen on YouTube)
From https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/07/arts/music/new-orleans-jazz-music.html
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 June 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
YIL that "Didn't He Ramble" was written about a goat.
https://syncopatedtimes.com/the-curious-history-of-oh-didnt-he-ramble/
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 June 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/keith_spera/new-orleans-drummer-russell-batiste-jrs-st-aug-funeral/article_8655a294-67b3-11ee-a45b-c34a8115590e.html
Russell Batiste jr , New Orleans drummer Dead at 57 from a heart attack.
For four decades, he was a stalwart of the New Orleans music community. In the late 1980s he applied his powerhouse style to a latter incarnation of the Meters, then spent years with that band’s successor, the Funky Meters.
Batiste also powered George Porter Jr. & Runnin’ Pardners, Dumpstaphunk, Bonerama, Papa Grows Funk, the Wild Magnolias, the Joe Krown Trio and his own Orkestra from da Hood and Russell Batiste & Friends.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:31 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, I saw that the other day, sad. Younger than I am.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link
RIP.
I thought he played on a couple tracks on Maceo Parker's Southern Exposure record, then realized that was Herman Ernest III, who died in 2011 at age 59. :(
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
Every Grammy Awards nominee for best Regional Roots music Album for the February 2024 Grammys is from Louisiana:
New BeginningsBuckwheat Zydeco Jr. & The Legendary Ils Sont Partis Band
Live At The 2023 New Orleans Jazz & Heritage FestivalDwayne Dopsie & The Zydeco Hellraisers
Live: Orpheum Theater NolaLost Bayou Ramblers & Louisiana Philharmonic Orchestra
Made In New OrleansNew Breed Brass Band
Too Much To HoldNew Orleans Nightcrawlers
Live At The Maple LeafThe Rumble Featuring Chief Joseph Boudreaux Jr
― curmudgeon, Monday, 13 November 2023 20:57 (seven months ago) link
I should listen to these Grammys nominees but will any of them wow me the way Sporty’s Brass Band Instagram Live’s do ?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:38 (seven months ago) link
Probably not, but I do like that Buckwheat's, Rockin' Dopsie's and Monk's offspring are all carrying on the tradition.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:14 (seven months ago) link
Yes , and the Lost Bayou Ramblers are a very creative Cajun band . Louis Michot from that group has done some cool solo stuff and the group was did nice music on the Beasts of the Southern Wild soundtrack
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:28 (seven months ago) link
https://www.offbeat.com/news/frenchmen-street-club-d-b-a-new-orleans-is-sold/
D.b.a. Club owner retiring and selling club to locals who already own other clubs
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link
Thank god for this woman and anyone else who's uploading full second line footage, rather than IG clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paLacuoI5Iw
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:14 (four months ago) link
Yes, thanks !
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:36 (four months ago) link
St. Mary’s Academy’s skirt-wearing band first formed in 1937, making it the oldest Black girls band marching in the city. Today, it is one of just a handful of all-girl bands to regularly appear in Mardi Gras parades...This Mardi Gras season also marks the first time Raynice Crayton, 27, will be at the band’s helm. A St. Mary’s alumna who joined the band as a seventh-grader, Crayton has already more than doubled band membership during her short tenure as director..The group’s 52 players have varying levels of experience, from novices to passionate musicians, and they range in grades from fourth to 12th. In New Orleans East, where the school’s campus has been located since the 1960s, Crayton spends hours teaching girls the 10 tunes they will perform this Carnival, ranging from traditional music to a Janet Jackson song to the group’s favorite this year: “Talking in Your Sleep” by the Romantics..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2024/02/12/mardi-gras-girls-marching-band/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzA3NzE0MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzA5MDk2Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MDc3MTQwMDAsImp0aSI6Ijk5OGU2NGM1LTg2NDktNDUyYS1hNTE4LWZlZTI3ZWNjOGJlZiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9zdHlsZS9vZi1pbnRlcmVzdC8yMDI0LzAyLzEyL21hcmRpLWdyYXMtZ2lybHMtbWFyY2hpbmctYmFuZC8ifQ.v-dFiptu0EAVbzwspUbkiE3UJD4SNps-CIPtXTNLnZs
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:04 (four months ago) link
Happy Mardi Gras!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:26 (four months ago) link
Seeing sad news on Instagram that snare drummer Kerry “Fatman” Hunter was killed by a car ( reportedly a drunk driver) on North Claiborne at Pauger Monday night
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 February 2024 05:20 (four months ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/13/arts/music/new-orleans-rapper-flagboy-giz.html
37 years old rapper & Black masking Indian merges the 2 cultures on “We Outside “ 2022 song and newer album, and a remix project
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:02 (four months ago) link
I heard that, so sad. He was never the flashiest player but had a huge and unmistakable sound, deeply rooted in the tradition. The groove on 'D-Boy' is fathoms deep. Unfortunately a lot of the best parts of New Birth Brass Band's (his main band) discography are not streaming or even on youtube, but here are some of my favorite Kerry Hunter recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQELLw2A_nwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=verTSC200Lshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuwGU_cB5ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUtJAsp28WQ
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:29 (four months ago) link
I am not going to be there and so hope the Friday 1 pm pacific time Pop Con presentation by USC professor Josh D Kun on the Mexican musical legacies of New Orleans will be streamed or recorded
― curmudgeon, Monday, 4 March 2024 23:37 (three months ago) link
WWOZ is streaming some of French Quarter Fest
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 April 2024 18:35 (two months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/04/african-caribbean-artists-new-orleans-music-jazz
African and Caribbean musicians moving to New Orleans
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 04:51 (one month ago) link
https://www.offbeat.com/news/palm-court-jazz-cafe-announces-closure-after-35-years/
Trad jazz place Palm Court Jazz Cafe closing after 35 years due to rising expenses
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:32 (four weeks ago) link
The Mother-in-Law Lounge will open Tuesdays at 4 p.m. ahead of trumpeter Irvin Mayfield's weekly performance from 6 to 8:30 p.m. The club will then go dark until Saturdays, when doors open at 6 from Ruffins' weekly gig from 8 to 10 p.m.
Otherwise, the Mother-in-Law Lounge will only be active for private events.
https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/keith_spera/kermit-ruffins-cuts-back-treme-mother-in-law-lounge-hours/article_975dd374-1d1e-11ef-8164-877897fa52df.html
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 June 2024 22:11 (two weeks ago) link
Damn, bad news for both of those venues.
― Overly dramatic elevator music (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:53 (two weeks ago) link