haha dude they were one of the biggest bands on earth for awhile there
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
markers have you heard the new staind single "not again"? it's pretty hardcore, kind of a return to the "mudshovel" era
― drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
grew up nearish biloxi, so strongly considered it, but really, "lighters" is the only right answer.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
some dude, no idea there was a new single -- thanks! listening now
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
"Biloxi", mostly because it is the shortest thing he says, and the less Durst says, is always the better
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
Staind really were the nadir of rock post turn of the century, weren't they
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
they weren't, but this new single isn't good
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQJLU8tnsk
d-_-b
― drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
lol the lyric video stretches out every word he sings a long time so it says "NOTTTTTT AGAINNNNN"
― drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
WHAT AN INTRICATE WEB YOU'RE WEAVINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
― drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
This song fits perfectly into the theme for a facebook group Songs of Strength. We share stuff that helps us stay strong, overcome & inspires us. Check us out.
Can't say how excited I am about the new stuff. Aaron is one highly talented guy - puts on a nice easy listening acoustic set; rocks faces off in the next town. Rock on Country Boy, ROCK ON....y'all!ChrisBame 4 hours ago
― drowning cool (some dude), Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
rock on y'all
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
lighters in a close race
― 69, Thursday, 21 July 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
I don't get why Staind get so much hate. They're not good but there was soooo much worse stuff on rock radio at their commercial peak.
― absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
still love the lack of self awareness in calling an album 14 Shades Of Grey
― I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:55 (twelve years ago) link
Crut otm
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
I mean on paper "I'm feelin those lighters" is, as moley says, a no-brainer. But within the clip "Biloxi!" really shines. It's a hard vote, but "Biloxi" it is.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
THIS IS THE REAL MUTHAFUCKIN DEAL Y'ALL
I think this is being underrated, cos I'm kind of touched that Fred thinks a bloke strumming a guitar and emo-mumbling is as real as I do.
― Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
I think people hate on Staind hard for several reasons. First, "Staind." Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country. Third, it's hard to conceive of a band more melodically deficient than Staind. They literally have one melodic mode in which they work, on every song, no matter what the chords are. It's the same Nirvana-changed-my-life move that really inspired a generation - I just spent a few minutes trying to figure out which mode it is that the Staind melody is in, I want to say Phrygian but I don't think that's right, but anyway it's just so cynically uninterested in its own music. A Stained song involves putting some chords together and then doing the same thing you did in the last song.
Also watch any of the videos somebody needs to give this guy 10,000 noogies.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link
going with "lighters" because it's kind of poignant being on the cusp of a new generation of concertgoing and all, and "i'm feeling those cellphones" just wouldn't be the same.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
also poignant as it is, listening to stained is like blowing your nose into a glass of apple juice and then drinking it not on a dare but for pleasure.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
see, my computer won't even let me write "staind" without having to go back and fix it.
I can't sit still through this. Does anyone know at what time "lighters" comes up?
― grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
At the beginning of this song, had he forgotten how to it went? There are some plain wrong notes in there played over and over until he hits the verse.
also lol @ "BILOXI!"
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
also lol @ Fred not being able to sing the chorus
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
dan i think you are asking a lot of staind dude's memory and skill set.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
according to one of the youtube commenters this was the first time the guy had ever played the song in public, it wasnt on any of their CDs, and he hadnt even written lyrics to it?
― max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
which would mean that yes fred is trying to sing along with a chorus that literally didnt have lyrics until that very moment
― max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
so Fred is a mind-reader? cool
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/201002/images/08/SNL.jpg
they should have dressed like this
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
so it's the gil e jorge of nu-metal
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
DJP wardrobe correction so OTM
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
This video and fred ad libs provided many lols at the time, glad to see we weren't alone
I knew a guy or two fresh year of college sincerely into this song
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Staind also were annoying for rhyming the same vowel sounds over and over again. It's even in ths song titles! For example, 14 Shades of Grey has the following songs:
Price to PlaySo Far AwayYesterdayFray (this is 4 of the first five tracks btw)Blow Away
Good God!
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
man, you know durst was 31 years old when 'nookie' came out? weird
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:57 PM Bookmark
And here I am the same age, and what have I accomplished?
― didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
He was actually 29.
― grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
and to think he was washed up before 40. he's like orson welles.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
31 when the video dropped rather
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
guys 31 is still a teenager basically
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
trust me on this one
sad no one bit on my revive of the "Behind Blue Eyes" thread
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
We were trying to ignore that.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country
to be fair, this happened late in his career
― absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
by which I mean after everyone already decided Staind were the worst band ever
again, not defending Staind who are horrible, but there were so many bands I would call the worst band of their era before Staind (Creed, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down) - I think I'd even rather listen to "Outside" or "It's Been Awhile" than that unreleased Nirvana song they remastered to sound like Puddle of Mudd
― absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
I'll take Creed over Staind for sure, but Staind over Nickelback & 3 Doors Down
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'm feeling you curtis. I like this better than any rock I've heard on the radio and I fucking HATED this when it was out. To me, this song is a watershed moment in blunt-edged commercial hard-rock. It's the source.
― grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
I'd take riding a rollercoaster without a lap bar over Nickleback
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
God, and my girlfriend at the time liked this too. She didn't understand why I would get so upset about it.
― grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Staind to me were terrible because of just how droney their shit was. it was almost offensive in its blandness.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i didn't think that was boneheaded or a rant? that was righteous anger
― een, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link
that was the real muthafuckin deal yall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpyBybsNX64
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 8 April 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
Because of the record's high recording budget of $800,000, there were many worries about whether or not the album would be successful, and the album almost had to top charts internationally just to break even with studio costs. Break the Cycle debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with first week sales of at least 716,000 copies. It remained at the top the following week with 329,299 copies. In the third week it was number one again with 244,698 copies. In the fourth week it dropped to number 2 with 221,179 copies. It sold over 1,000,000 copies in the first 3 weeks. As of June 2006, it sold 5,467,000 copies in the U.S. alone. Break the Cycle also topped the UK charts, where it was certified platinum, in New Zealand and in Canada, where it had the multi-platinum status. The world sales are around 8 million copies.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_the_Cycle
― how's life, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
What the hell was all that money spent on
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I dunno. I've gone looking for an answer but it's uncited and I'm beginning to think it may just be wikipedia vandalism.
― how's life, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
Recorded October 2000 – February 2001Studio NRG Studios, Los Angeles, CA, Longview Farm Studios, North Brookfield, MA, Southbeach Studios, Miami Beach, FL and Electric Lady Recording Studio, NYC, NY
So, let's say they worked five days a week from 10/1-2/28 with a two-week vacation somewhere in the middle. Not everybody working all the time, but studios billing time the whole time. 23 weeks at several pretty pricey studios, I don't know all of these but just the rooms alone absolute bare minimum 500/day and probably more than that -- certain Electric Lady's more than that in '06. knock 25 days off the room rental at that doubtless-wrong rate and you're still spending 45 grand on the room. now pay the producer, his two assistants, catering, drum & guitar techs on call, housing, flights, and you're still only up to about 300k max. double the price of the room and your closer, but if a major label was getting billed 1k/day in 2006 then there's some funny math going on, wherefore I'm saying they spent the money on just being cool
― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 16 June 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
*you're closer I can't let that shit sta(i)nd
― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 16 June 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
― The Marmadook (latebloomer), Friday, June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
extra lighters
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 June 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Line items: entertainment and snow
― Eazy, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
At least a quarter on beer, ching and stripclubs
― MaresNest, Friday, 16 June 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
I just imagine they kept on buying more and more magic rocks (see Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil )
― layda be cry (los blue jeans), Friday, 16 June 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link
BUT MOST OF YOU DON'T GIVE A SHITTHAT YOUR DAUGHTERS ARE PORNO STARSAND YOUR SONS SELL DEATH TO KIDSYOU'RE SO LOST IN YOUR LITTLE WORLDSYOUR LITTLE WORLDS YOU'LL NEVER FIX
― how to diss a peer completely (unregistered), Monday, 5 February 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link
http://www.chickensoup.com/book-story/30728/outside
― had (crüt), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
lmao excellent
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
i don't think i've ever read a confirmation that the verses were improvised before now, even though they obviously are
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link
haha, that's a great story
― niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
love fred 4eva
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
i'm in biloxi right now
― ⅋ (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link
like, in biloxi or just outside it, looking in?
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link
lol
― lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 25 February 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9rcD-j7wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaV2ENqUymU
This guy is such a fucking baby.
― ☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link