They genuinely had no involvement at all in Yellow Submarine, didn't they?You mean apart from appearing in it (singing "All Together Now")!
i thought that was the whole reasoning behind having an animated movie - that it was the least possible amount of work for the band.
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, "Help!" is hack-work, but my current perspective is that it's mid-60s surf-and-spy-influenced hack-work, and quite charming hack-work at that. I think any kid nowadays that likes Austin Powers would love it.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of amazed that "I Feel Fine" didn't make it.
Don't think it's going to make the top 19?
― timellison, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Help! (the film) has its moments, but they were clearly disinterested in making it as good as A Hard Day's Night. At that point, they started developing an eye towards jumping off the constant publicity/touring treadmill. Also, weed.
that's exactly what i was going to say. and that it's moments were mostly the "videos" for the songs, which totally turned me on to some album cuts i hadn't paid much attention to before i saw the movie. the "acting" was pretty much phoned in (and mumbled to boot) but at that point they really needed a vacation. not sure i blame them!
otoh they weren't really bothered with the yellow submarine movie because of the crappy beatles cartoon that preceded it, which none of them liked. which is kinda a shame, i LOVE the movie but was a little freaked out when i discovered it wasn't actually their voices in the cartoon - like being told there's no santa or something (ok i watched that movie way too much as a kid, i admit) i was freakin thrilled when the late 90's YS rerelease came out with it's all too much and only a northern song, which are great sgt pepper's era outtakes that really deserved to see the light of day (and worked perfectly in the context of the movie) i suppose it's asking too much for one of those 2 to make the top 20...
― messiahwannabe, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll be shocked if it doesn't show up tomorrow. xp
― Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
It was because they were livid at BEpstein agreeing that "Beatles" cartoon series, and assumed that YelSub would be more of the same.
Paul's still a bit "everyone looks cool except me" about it.
― Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Be shocked, I already said so above just so I could post the 'fish and chips' video.
― Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
HeLp! isn't total hack-work, it's still Richard Lester, it might be more excusable if it was just made by some hack, as it is it's just really lazy and shoddy
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cMdbfkl3Rz4/Rzbr94ByVhI/AAAAAAAABCk/nH_Yw4P2ibw/s400/submarine.jpg
― kkvgz, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
25. Here Comes The Sun Abbey Road (Number Ones: 1)
^^^this was me FYI
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
"I Feel Fine" is one of their subtler early blockbusters. The combination of the guitar line with Ringo's ride cymbal beat - where in the world did they come up with something like that? And, of course, the harmonies and John Lennon was in his best voice in '64-'65 imo.
― timellison, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Lester could only do so much with what he was given: a rushed script and four kids baked to the gills. In Anthology they talk about how some scenes took days to shoot because one of them would start giggling uncontrollably.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
or the four stars would just ski away and not come back
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ALmost ashamed to admit that I was the #1 vote for "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." I guess everyone here feels it's played out, but I always have and still do feel it's a remarkably executed recording, maybe the most aggressive Paul's bass ever sounded on a Beatles record.
― BIG HOOBA aka the stankdriver (Phil D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
The opening of Help! just kills me. I played it for a class once, and one of my Indian students was offended: "We're not really like that, you know." Eye-opening experience--I've never played it again--but I do still love it.
hope it wasn't a comparative religion class!
― little mushroom person (abanana), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
The bass sound throughout the White Album is great.
― timellison, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I think that's maybe when he went back to using the Hofner (after using the Rickenbacker for a while)?
De Niro's rehearsals for Raging Bull probably did look a lot like that I Feel Fine video, come to think (distant xp to self)
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Nope, Paul stuck with the Rick throughout the white album, and went back to the Hofner for Let It Be and most (all?) of Abbey Road.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm always a fan when they do a verse with one melody that goes on forever, like this or Your Mother Should Know.
I love this too. Is there an ILM thread for songs like this?
― nate woolls, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
My songs today: Blackbird (my #14), Here, There and Everywhere (#13), Here Comes the Sun (#18) and Things We Said Today (#12).
― nate woolls, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
they may not have had much to do with *making* Yellow Submarine but they sure enjoyed watching it
http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2010/01/yellow-submarine.jpg
― piscesx, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok, been busy but just caught up on this, glad to see someone else besides me had 'There's a Place' at #1, such a sharp piece of songwriting. There are a handful of those amazing songs on the early albums that I only really noticed relatively recently ('No Reply' is another although that didn't make my ballot).
The Yellow Submarine film was my introduction to The Beatles, loved it as a kid, I liked Help! as well but I've only seen that once or twice - keen to re-visit it after watching that 'You've Got To Hide Your Love Away' clip.
Also my favourite Song Connection from the countdown so far:
36. I Saw Her Standing There35. Across the Universe
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, like I say, the entire "help" film is upthread..
― Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
20-1 tonight, Mark?
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Things We Said Today is a surprise. I mean it's lovely, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about it ever.― Ismael Klata, Monday, July 18, 2011 9:55 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink^^ too high IMO― V79, Monday, July 18, 2011 9:56 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
^^ too high IMO― V79, Monday, July 18, 2011 9:56 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/williams100.htm
The 20th Century's Greatest Hitsby Paul Williams1. "Things We Said Today" The Beatles (1964)
It should be top 10 imo.
Can't wait to see A Day In The Life at #1. yawn.
― billstevejim, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I think DITL will be...#4! Most overrated of their oeuvre, IMHO
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't vote for it
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
me either - but i could understand why one might.
― karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Paul stuck with the Rick throughout the white album
Seriously? Well, it's got to be the Rick with flatwound strings anyway.
Rickenbacker bass with flatwound strings is an intriguing concept! You will not sound like Chris Squire this way.
― timellison, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really surprised so far by the percentage of McCartney songs turning up in this poll. Who knew there were so many old softies on ILM?!
― Darin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Stats so far:
Lennon/McCartney: 3 McCartney: 20Lennon: 13Harrison: 4Covers: 1
― Darin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
p sure my ballot ended up John heavy & I didn't expect that!
I am doing p badly in this poll b/c I favor the early years & this poll...doesn't?
― Euler, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I given up on my early favs like It Won't Be Long even placing at this point.
― Darin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ depressing
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
― Darin, Monday, July 18, 2011 11:07 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'm not sure why anyone would assume there'd be a disproportionate amount of Lennon over McCartney
― drowning cool (some dude), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I would have assumed the same--not disproportionate, but more Lennon than McCartney. I think Lennon will at the very least pull closer over the final 20.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
help! the movie is frequently lame but that scene where they walk through the four doors and suddenly it turns out they're living in one big house redeems everything for me.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link
― drowning cool (some dude), Monday, July 18, 2011 8:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
ILM has a history of slagging McCartney + a lot of the tunes on the list are more FM staples of The Beatles catalog (Let it Be, Hello Goodbye). I guess I expected to see more stuff like Hey Bulldog and And Your Bird Can Sing.
Anyway, I pretty much love all the songs on this list - so not a judgement statement, just an observation.
― Darin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like a lot of the "big" beatles songs have already hit the list, and it's gonna be a quirky top 19. but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
― get at me frog (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Only song I'm legit surprised didn't place higher is "Here Comes the Sun." Also glad I'm not the only one who put "I Saw Her Standing There" at #1!
― absolutely better display name (crüt), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it was my number 5
― get at me frog (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
RIght, what I might do is nine today, but stagger them more
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link
19. Long Long Long The Beatles (Points: 347, Voters: 13, Number Ones: 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3GhyjV9jqI
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Ach, I mean eight today, leaving the top ten.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link
aww, i was hoping it would make the top 10, pretty good showing though
― you will know queer obama by his fruits (JoeStork), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, top twenty for a track that'd never show up in the 'gambo'/'rolling stone' equivalent, I'd say it did well yes.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link
wine bottle rattling on amp at 2:45 ish a highlight for me
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Was listening to Lennon singing Anna again yesterday. The emotion in his voice is unbeatable
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link
18. Rain Single (Points: 355, Voters: 14, Number Ones: 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AmJWHpBpjA
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago) link