Daft Punks's "Discovery" : Classic or Dud

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― MRZBW, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"music sounds better with you" is the single most romantic phrase i can imagine! daft punk wish they could evoke a hundredth of that emotion, indeed a hundredth of that sonic pleasure

oh no

― Ronan, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i stick by that!

tom that does sound v sad. but how much of it was the timing of your decision/realisation not to enjoy/bother with/care about albums (delete as applicable)? i mean, is it the albums, or you?

― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean...i am no repper for the album format but i still think i get that feeling you're talking about on the regular! maybe five times a year, sometimes more, sometimes less? not, it must be said, this year yet, unless ciara counts.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

total classic.

― el juan, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(Lex, I think people are making "aw, bless" noises towards you because Stardust was, for all practical intents and purposes, Daft Punk recording under a different name; that's the main reason I brought up the song in the first place, seeing as everyone wanted to go "lol genre" at my other list of albums/acts I thought were better.)

― HI DERE, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

stardust was the pinnacle

― lfam, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

music sounds better with you sounds aight but kinda pussified imho

i like aerodynamic

― and what, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

MSBWY never quite gets going like it should. It needs a climax.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I always felt that the point of the song is that it doesn't climax, it just rests on this plateau of peace and goodwill.

That said I'm not one of those people who think it's better than anything Daft Punk have done.

― Tim F, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW Lex "Starlight" is a good song but you're crazy if you think it's better than "Digital Love".

Ha ha this thread is making me nostalgic for the last wave of actually good French house style disco-pop. Who else loves: The Ones - Flawless???? Amazing tune to dance to. Even George Michael couldn't ruin it (actually the song he based on it is quite good even!)

― Tim F, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Flawless is incredible. MSBWY is incredible. Carnival is incredible. Discovery is incredible. It's all good!

Tom's comment that Discovery felt like an event you could believe in is a better articulation of my hamfisted 'rockist' idea.

― jabba hands, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

what song did george michael base on it? flawless is classic

― deej, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

To the Robot Rock lovers: what do you like about this tune?

― Belisarius, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a ripoff and it rules. And is loud.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm apparently the only version of 'flawless' i knew was the italo mix? i think i like the version better actually

― deej, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Robot Rock does what it says on the can.

― The Reverend, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

album is pretty classic. 'interstellar 5555' is even better tho!!

― haitch, Friday, 13 April 2007 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"The last time I loved an ALBUM" would be closer. I don't know exactly what it was about Discovery that made it such an event, and made me want to like everything about it - every track, every decision they made, everything. But Discovery had it, and no album has since.

I feel EXACTLY the same.

― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 13 April 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Discovery was the last (only?) time I laughed (out loud) WITH a record.

― baaderonixx, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha this thread is making me nostalgic for the last wave of actually good French house style disco-pop. Who else loves: The Ones - Flawless???? Amazing tune to dance to. Even George Michael couldn't ruin it (actually the song he based on it is quite good even!)

while people are saying George Michael is ok, I should add I thought that Luomo lite track "Amazing" he did was nice radio music. I saw a guy singing it in a chipper before to a girl and suddenly realised how horrible and sleazy and insincere the vocal is in it, "I think you're amaaaziiing". Still used to leave it on when it came on the radio though.

I want to hear Carnival now.

Shame Archigram never managed to make another really great record.

― Ronan, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

lovely french house - http://www.discogs.com/release/62390

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex it's worth pointing out that I got that feeling of belief in an album once or twice a year at most even in my full on indie album buying years. (I have a disasterously low attention span too.)

― Groke, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and yeah it's me not the albums - technology caught up to how I was consuming music anyway and the format could be happily discarded. So "Discovery"'s specialness is kind of accidental but that doesn't make me love it less.

― Groke, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in the same boat with albums. I never listen to any hardly.

Last week there was a bbq in my house and someone was like "oh let me have a look at your ipod, I'll put something on", and I had to just say "er...ok" then it was "radio 11/04/2006, radio 11/5/2007, what is this?".

― Ronan, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah technology is probably key, already at home i hardly listen to albums - or more usually i cherrypick 4-5 songs at a time - but as long as i have a convenient 45-min commute and no ipod i think i will retain some sort of attachment to the album format!

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"while people are saying George Michael is ok, I should add I thought that Luomo lite track "Amazing" he did was nice radio music. I saw a guy singing it in a chipper before to a girl and suddenly realised how horrible and sleazy and insincere the vocal is in it, "I think you're amaaaziiing". Still used to leave it on when it came on the radio though."

This is true! Ha ha Luomo lite that's great.

― Tim F, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm weirdly faithful to the album (or especially album-mix) format, probably for the same reason Lex is. I listen to music mostly while commuting, and with no ipod it's too bothersome to change things regularly.

― Tim F, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

oh its not that im an album person either, most of the music i like has traditionally never appeared on albums, maybe it was just the way you wrote it seemed v melancholy, though i guess maybe for you tom, you were more of an album person in the past and things changed?

im either a) not sure how well carnival has dated, b) wonder if i liked it that much in the first place, c) wonder if its one of those things that is right for a time and then loses its appeal (for me) later

i think its probably c, with a touch of b. that kind of period of dance music was a period where i did feel out of step a bit, a touch of that feeling of subconsciously trying to like things. im not sure when the tided turned back to loving it...obviously it was plip-plop in some form, but i wonder what

i think it might have been

Argy - Love Dose!

― 600, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^ love dose seems kinda forgotten now, but that was a massive tune!

― 600, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I was feeling melancholy yesterday for work reasons: a quick pint sorted them out.

I was an album person until about 1993. Then I would still buy albums but would put the stuff I liked on mixtapes, and listen to those: I have about 60 or so C90s which are basically a "musical diary" I suppose. That coincided with me listening to a lot more non-album music too. And then the MP3 playlist model came along and meant I didn't need to keep making the C90s (though I wish I'd kept up with it as the old tapes are fascinating to me now).

― Groke, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

(I've adored a bunch of albums since Discovery came out but they've all been by Basement Jaxx, Tool and The Cure.)

― HI DERE, Friday, 13 April 2007 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Carnival" definitely hasn't aged well.

― Ronan, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

but 'Discovery' has? that would be curious.

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still an album person though arguably my reviewing work means a lot to the allegiance of the form. That said I also like contemplative continuous moods in general -- so I'm fond of mixes, VERY fond of them. iPod shuffle format is my intentional counterpart to all this because of the randomness, but I don't use that for casual listening per se, at least not yet.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

which club tracks from 2002 have aged well after 5 years? 'Transition' maybe (sounded somehow 'retro' at the time)...but what European stuff?

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

'emerge'!

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

george michael on that avalanches song is pretty awesome

/obviously

― deej, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

'emerge'!

-- lex pretend, Friday, April 13, 2007 10:56 AM (3 minutes ago)

lol

― and what, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember when I thought Fischerspooner were a joke Momus had invented. (Still probably the case.)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

the stuff that has REALLY aged badly is things like Audio Bullys 'Real Life' and 'We Don't Care' - more than electroclash stuff.

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i was into electroclash soooo much more than daft punk :D

ahh miss kittin, felix &c...

'rippin kittin' still AMAZING. anna-marie and i still dj it out.

steve those things sounded dated and crap at the time.

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

you know, as a retro thing

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

re kittin

― lex pretend, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yea im not sure we can count emerge as dance music. or as any good

i like rippin kittin from that time, but i guess that was electroclash/indies time in the sun.

― 600, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I loved a bunch of ABs and FC Kahuna stuff in 01/02. The former's shit ratio went from 50/50 to 100/0 after that (but too bad Dinsdale didn't produce the Streets second and third albums) while FC Kahuna just seemed to disappear altogether.

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

But by 'aged badly' I can only go by 'stuff I loved at the time but don't now' rather than 'tracks that were fashionable then but don't really get made now' which I assume is the case with 'Carnival' (people still like it but no desire for more stuff like that)?

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno i was thinking it sounds kind of thin production wise. i kinda thought that about a lot of that stuff at the time, i think thats why i was kinda not really so much into dance music around that time

― 600, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

no thinner than Braxe & Falke stuff.

― blueski, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I might as well drop this on here - is anyone interested in my side project of mashing up transformers the movie with discovery? if so, how many of you are going to be at EMP?

― BleepBot, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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