RFI: Border Community - Nathan Fake, James Holden, The MFA, Petter etc.

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except without all the pesky drums

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

These days I picture Tim walking the streets with a big sign that says: "Submit to 'In White Rooms' or the world will end!!" ;)

Too bad i can't really, really feel its might (and I try all the remixes too.)

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

"These days I picture Tim walking the streets with a big sign that says: "Submit to 'In White Rooms' or the world will end!!" ;)"

Sadly I haven't even heard the original played out yet! My party lifestyle is currently in abeyance.

I think partly it's just that "In White Rooms" and The Knife album are the only 2006 music I've felt deeply emotionally connected to (Ashlee Simpson's album excluded b/c of 2005 release date). There's other stuff I've loved but this is what has squeezed my heart. The connection is trance obv.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

i gotta say tim, i wasnt feeling in white rooms on first cursory listen today, but ill give it a few more spins tomorrow

david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

I was underwhelmed at first actually - of the first few tracks I heard from Movements I initially preferred both "Night Falls" and "Pong Pang". "In White Rooms" just sounded like "Mandarine Girl" minus the noisy sounds.

Having said that I honestly don't know whether you'll love it Jess. Our tastes diverge a bit more than they used to these days it seems.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
um ...

what did we decide about "At The Controls"??

i've been listening to it this morning, not sure i'm convinced. seems like a misuse of harmonia.

but damn, that nathan fake / apparat track is the loveliness.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

i've only listened to the first disc though. maybe the second is more like it.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

holden - "lump" is incredible. i can't understand why this song hasn't gotten more discussion. it's sort of windowlicker part 2, but creepier and sad and almost as fun to dance to.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

i see i said the same thing in march.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Not really germane to the thread, but MANDY are doing the next At the Controls mix, it's out in a couple weeks i think.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent! And Radio Slave are doing an Eskimo mix! Presents for everyone.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

i'm glad the whole react->resist transition has been smooth

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

er the react-resist transition

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

er react->resist

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

M.A.N.D.Y. At The Controls mix tracklisting:

Disk 1:
Mathew Dear - Tide
Isolée - Willy Skipper
Djuma Soundsystem - Les Djinns (My My Mix)
Jona - Smart Cats Vs Dumb Dogs
M.A.N.D.Y - Take Two Four
Alex Under - Collage
Dinky - Michelle
Señor Coconut - Electrolatino (Ricardo Villalobos 'Lecktro Carlño' Mix)
Osborne - Outta Sight
Jesse Rose & Henrik Schwarz - Stop Look & Listen (Henrik's Version)
Rockers Hi Fi - Push Push (M.A.N.D.Y Mix)
Booka Shade - In White Rooms (Mexico Version)
Mathew Jonson - Sub Atomic
Mile Caro & Franck Garcia - Far Away (Jennifer Cardini & Shonky Mix)
Cobblestone Jazz - India In Me
Kenny Larkin - Catatonic (Fourth State) (Stacey Pullin Mix)
Fingers Inc - A Path (Instrumental Mix)
Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas - Feel Am
Michal Holy & Ajana Calugar - Black Vanilla Guitar

Disk 2:
Marden Hill - Bardot
Cat Stevens - Was A Dog A Doughnut
Rune Lindbaek - Junta Jaegar
Atjazz - Its Complete (Chateau Flight Darkside Mix)
Lopazz - Share My Rhythm
My My - Clean Break
Claude Vonstroke - Who's Afraid Of Detroit
Lindstrøm - I Feel My Space (M.A.N.D.Y Mix)
Heartz4 - Intimacy Girl
Ricardo Villalobos - Ichso
Sensorama - Where The Rabbit Sleeps
Scsi-9 - Senorita Tristeza
Chikinki - Assassinator 13 (Ruege Hagelstein 'Ride On Take Off' Mix)
Justin Martin - The Sad Piano (Charles Webster Mix)
Zweikarakter - Synthic
Djuma Soundsystem - Les Djinns (Trentemøller Mix)
Coldcut - Walk A Mile In My Shoes (Henrik Schwarz Radio Mix)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

haha that radio slave mix has the osmonds (quiet village remix!!!) and corey hart on it.

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

that looks ridiculously good.

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

so do i have this right: a new isolee, mandy, jona. my favorite scsi-9 song. and cat stevens?

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

and then all the wtfs: Rune Lindbaek, Heartz4, Zweikarakter.

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

ugh looks wack

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

please be joking

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

It looks great, ignore Vahid's grapes gripes.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

it looks like one good disc w/ a lot of filler around it. i like the 2nd half of the 1st disc and the 1st half of the 2nd disc.

weirdly enough, that's almost EXACTLY how i feel about holden's mix, too!! i can barely get any interest going in the weird IDM / triphop shenanigans at the start of the first disc or second discs. i wish he'd edited the more propulsive parts of the mix together into one seamless whole ... i'd start w/ "anita berber" and stop again after the apparat track ... then maybe start AFTER "xtal" on the 2nd disc and go to "nazi trance fuck off".

that'd make a tight 80 minute mix.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

i take it back - i'm into it now. it's good music for foggy weather.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I was really disappointed that the CD of Holden's At The Controls mix differs from the promo -- I don't think this is reflected on Discogs or anywhere else. The CD is missing the second and third tracks that were on the promo!

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

The first CD, I mean. It's missing the Plastikman and Massive Attack tracks, if I remember correctly.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

it is?

HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Rockers Hi Fi - Push Push (M.A.N.D.Y Mix)


i really want to hear this.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
thoughts on this?

gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's definitely got some good things on it

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

and I'm being precise by calling them 'things'

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

is the album just shoddily produced or has Holden invented TRANCE PUNK?

PRKLTR (flezaffe), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

my thoughts - wtf?!

there is a germ of something worth pursuing here, but as a whole album it's the kind of thing you forget you even heard later it's so insubstantial. weird.

new new wave of new wave new rave (fandango), Friday, 3 November 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2329/tumbleweeds01rk1.jpg ?

brr (fandango), Saturday, 18 November 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

lol at the Nathan Barley reference title.

Dan Barramouss (jimnaseum), Saturday, 18 November 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

in this instance tim i think i mean incredibly light and fluffy and airy and wooshy trance-style stuff, like, i dunno, "the difference it makes" remix but even more, uh, wooshy.

also, i dont think this is possible but somehow driving and lighter-than-air at the same time.

still waiting on this btw.

bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jess did you hear the last Jonas Bering 12? Very whooshy drone in a Kaito meets Superpitcher fashion, not exactly what you're looking for but pretty good nonetheless.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

i did! it's very good. i recommend everyone check out the field track on pop ambient 2007 ("kappsta"), which sounds like selected ambient works ii + gas + trance.

bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

i'm still loving border community. it makes me feel at home in a big anti-IDM whirlpool where chilling out to intelligent electronica is bad and hated, but yet still manages to get my feet a twiddling.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

otm - ah I'll never recapture the glory days of IDM, but I'm listening to the Nathan Fake/James Holden essential mix right now and the buzz and fuzz and angle-grinding static is putting a big smile on my face.

ledge (ledge), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
The new Mistress Barbara 12 on BC is unbelievably good, both sides. Really epic, driving trendy trance! If ever something was BETTER THAN THE FIELD, this is it, it actually bangs and blows your head off...

Ronan, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was just thinking about this thread as I believe I can go and see James Holden for free tonight. However he's playing on equal billing on a bill w/ fucking Hybrid and I'm fearful the night might go accordingly

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

when i posted about INTELLIGENT TRANCE MUSIC i was basically thinking holden.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

there are two holden remixes on the new one, both suck, and aren't even "intelligent trance", just more crappy lo-fi idm

Ronan, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wish they'd update the website, and yes, the Mistress Barbara single is a thing of beauty.

stevo-r, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Um, school me in the ways of James Holden, if you please?

I wasn't going to stay for his whole set last night, but got totally SUCKED INTO it.

Who was it who said I would like this? Matt DC? Well, you were right. It's not even dance music so much as it's just... dronerock made with electronics. He totally does that whole "take one chord, one note, one sound, repeat until transcendence is achieved" that made me love Spacemen 3, NEU!, etc.

People were dancing, but my friend found me a chair, and I just sat on it in a kind of daze and wibbled. (The only problem is, if you sit on a chair at a dance gig, people assume you're on Ketamine and come up and spill their drugs all over you, bah.)

Where should I start with this?

We're The Glitter On The Breeze (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 22 March 2009 11:15 (seventeen years ago)

went to Cluster eh? Jealous.

Nathan Fake's Album and James Holden's at the controls are the best places to start, as is their Essential Mix.

NF's Album is great for those fantastically bright days where you always seem to have the sun in your eyes but dont mind it.

Hamildan, Sunday, 22 March 2009 23:21 (seventeen years ago)

Who was it who said I would like this? Matt DC? Well, you were right. It's not even dance music so much as it's just... dronerock made with electronics. He totally does that whole "take one chord, one note, one sound, repeat until transcendence is achieved" that made me love Spacemen 3, NEU!, etc.

You mean... it's dance music?

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2009 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, you have pretty much nailed down the appeal of minimal techno (of which Border Community is kind of a key landmark) right down in one sentance.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2009 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

Umm anyway, reading the 2005-06 period of this thread would do nicely to start. Either they went off the boil or I lost interst. But anyway:

Nathan Fake - Sky Was Pink (James Holden Mix)
Fairmont - Gazebo
Petter - Six Songs (or whatever it was called)
Extrawelt - Soopertrack

Is the golden age of this stuff. For similar shit try Stephan Bodzin's album from 2007, and then read the Kompakt threads from start to finish.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2009 23:31 (seventeen years ago)


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