matt dc, you're redirecting something I said broadly onto a specific example which isn't what I really intended to say (about that one song).
and yeah, ILM -loves- these kind of "all hook" records, where I often find them flat (for all the effort) and ultimately sorta boring but I'm kind of resigned to that.
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link
also, I'm not sure if I'm being condescending towards MIA or other ILM-ers, okay "overrated" I guess is a crit. of others so fair enough, perhaps it's just my reaction to the entire internet throwing me daggers when I dare to say she sucks at some things, but shallow, well that's just my feeling and I'm allowed to say it!
ABout Björk (see also upthread) the sad thing is I actually agree that this is musically, just the kind of genreless, fresh, enervating excitement I was hoping for from her new (and unusually dissapointing, for me) one :(
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah I know, I was just sort of amused by the concept.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
still sounding fantastic ten or so listens in - i never really liked arular like that much (at least in comparison to piracy funds terrorism), and didn't have high expectations for this, so it's great that it's turning out to be my pop album of the year so far. really looking forward to seeing her live again.
i can't believe that $20 doesn't piss me off - bootlegs in 2007? - but i guess it's just weird enough to work.
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link
People who diss post-Bends Radiohead are not to be trusted, even when I think I might agree with them.
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― J0hn D., Friday, 3 August 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost matt dc - heh :)
that dogging line is hilarious btw, she's got some really funny lines but for some reason I never seem to pick up on them IN the songs (unlike say, Missy) which might be why she sometimes comes across as a lot more academic than she should... also BAD hangover fwiw so apologies if I'm being particularly unpolite & harsh... typing rubbish to the interweb about all I'm good for today :x
― fandango, Friday, 3 August 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
The Bends is shit
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
half of the bends is shit.
'watching lost on cable'
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link
i can't believe that $20 doesn't piss me off - bootlegs in 2007?
wha? how is $20 a bootleg? it's only a bassline lift, not even a sample!
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link
blue monday + where is my mind = bootleg.
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link
i think i like the slower songs better. eerier.
― strongohulkington, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
bury her vocals further in the mix.
maybe i just want an instrumental mix.
i don't know the 'where is my mind' thing. but it's hardly a bootleg cf rap music
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link
the final (timbaland) track is growing on me
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link
? what about rap music? she sings an entire verse + chorus of where is my mind, it's most of the lyrics to her song!
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah someone who was in my office yesterday recognized the where is my mind lift immediately without knowing the m.i.a. song at all
― strongohulkington, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Where Is My Mind is only about half the lyrics to the song, but the record itself, sonically, is so much more than just Blue Monday plus Where Is My Mind anyway.
I noted with amusement the Lex going "apparently it contains a Pixies reference" when he owns both the first two Pixies albums and therefore that song.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link
DAMN - i was this ][ close to asking what 'where is my mind" is?
― Alan, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link
yep, and i think that's why it cuts through my bootleg-phobia. every time i hear it it's slightly surprising to me that it doesn't jar or sound stupid, but something about the combination works. amusingly when i first heard the song i totally failed to pick up the blue monday steal until colette pointed it out, but the lyrics jumped right out at me.
― toby, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link
zomg i cant believe that shed use pixies lyrics it ruins the song
― max, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link
WHAT IS WHERE IS MY MIND U GUYZ HALP
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link
yours, lexski
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
he quit ILM so i am filling in
― blueski, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
praises be
― strongohulkington, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link
i mean in all honesty id mostly rather she use other peoples lyrics than her own
― max, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link
well 60% of the time anyway
it's funny, the modern lovers - new order - pixies refs on this would probably, at various points in my life, either enthralled or annoyed me, and now i'm perfectly neutral about them.
more fascinating insights still yet to come
― s1ocki, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
I can't stand "Boyz", it's so annoying.
― Erock Zombie, Friday, 3 August 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, she comes across as a bit annoying herself in that new pitchfork interview.
I mean, I get that she probably faces ire from many people because she's a woman and from a third world country, but I personally don't give a shit about either of those things. If I don't like something, I don't like it. It's not because a woman made it, or an immigrant or a three headed dog, music is music (to me). She really beat into the ground the fact that "Nobody thinks a woman could have any ideas without a man behind her", and that's fucking stupid (in my eyes).
She also seemed to be a bit confrontational (I had never heard that "Diplo was the mastermind behind MIA" like she implys every article says), and especially towards a website that actually digs her. I can't imagine how it would have been if it was a SPIN magazine interview or something.
― Erock Zombie, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
I think you are the only person who hadn't heard Diplo and MIA conflated. There were about a ton of threads and blog posts and articles when Arular that used them interchangeably.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Her comments weren't directed to people who dislike her music. They were directed to people who do like it but have to reason to themselves that she can't possibly be the one behind it, and that seems to be the case in a lot of articles.
And yes, the fact that nobody thinks a woman can have any ideas without a man behind her is stupid. This is why she is angry.
― filthy dylan, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
if they sampled actual chickens for "bird flu" this album jumps from a B to B+.
― Jordan Sargent, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
It does indeed have real chicken sounds.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
oh shit
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
this album is FIERCE
going back and listening to "Arular", "Kala" sounds so much more brutal and confrontational and in-your-face.
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
i've only listened to this on shitty computer speakers at work -- can't wait to bump this on the car stereo -- i feel i'm missing out on a lot of the depth of the production on these clipped-range 1/8" jack fuckers
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 3 August 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
upon first listen this is boring compared to arular. what happened to the rhythms?!
― BATTAGS, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link
uh hello, world town???
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Hahaha what?
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
bird flue? $20? XR2????
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link
"$20" is kind of boring.
― HI DERE, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link
also lacks those annoying 'skits', thank god
― Stevie D, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, she comes across as a bit annoying herself in that new pitchfork interview. not as annoying as the writer who was like "boo hoo i had really great questions planned but she hijacked the interview to talk about something important to her." shut up!
― mizzell, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
True, and besides, it seems the only planned question the interviewer gets out was WHAT WAS IT LIKE WORKING WITH SUPERSTAR PRODUCER TIMBALAND? which, given her entire rant about people associating her with her established male collaborators at the beginning of the interview, makes me think he's kinda dense.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
omg i like the album less already!!
― s1ocki, Friday, 3 August 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah given the relative consistency of ideas across the album I'm assuming MIA had most of the initial inspiration and then fed it to her producers to work magic out of.
Anyone got a list of who produced what, by the way?
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 August 2007 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
attn DJ's: mix "Down River" by M.I.A.----> "Radio Fireworks" by Surkin
up the rpm, of course.
― Spinspin Sugah, Friday, 3 August 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link
in her pfork she begrudgingly gave most of the credit to switch:
On this album I self-produced most of the album with Switch, and nobody's talking about that. And it's because Switch doesn't really talk it up, or he's not into self-promotion like that. Switch spent a year with me making my record and I'm really surprised how he doesn't really come across as the person that I've relied on most. I don't know, I just wanted to set the record straight and make sure that credit goes to people, where it's due, I guess. Last time I set out in America, I probably saw Diplo once.
― The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 4 August 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Forget the Switch/Diplo shit...Timbaland listening to Celine Dion?!?!? OH NOES!
― Tape Store, Saturday, 4 August 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link