★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

Yeah obv "Friend Lover"! Several ER tunes may make it, unsurprisingly.

oh god i've only just realised that the whole "basic bitch" thing is, like, a ciara diss ;_;

This redeems any dubious origins:

http://wigcrypt.blogspot.com/2011/02/educated-basic-bitch.html

love that post

Also:

"As long as there are HBCU dorm rooms and $5 Drink Night at clubs in bad neighborhoods there will always be a place for basic bitch music. Some people like simple, uncomplicated music. No concepts, no alter-egos, no experimentation. Just some club bangers, some mid-tempos, some ballads...and thank Jesus in the CD booklet. You may not have MILLIONS of fans but somebody somewhere will buy download your stuff and in a few years your "flop-ass album" will be considered an "underrated classic" (See: Afrodisiac)."

AFRODISIAC IS AN UNDERRATED CLASSIC GODDAMNIT

/basicbitch

"who is she 2 u" was my favorite song that year probably

& i didnt even realize it was a leon ware sample until much later!

how do i find out about r&b prince revivalism?

listen 2 teh-dream

well yeah but is that the only one?

To start with see the songs I just listed above:

Teedra Moses - Complex Simplicity
Jazmine Sullivan - Don't Make Me Wait
Electrik Red - Friend Lover
Beyonce - Schoolin Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJVRVumRR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8CjYqZl2E

Nasty Girl always seemed like a straight-up MJ homage to me!

I think it's just the wrong time for Prince revivalism right now? Especially commercially. Maybe that's the reason a lot of this stuff has been co-opted by a lot of people who are essentially house listeners, where Prince revivalism has been going on pretty much since Prince went off the boil in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4tEWU5TEM

never forget

ooh this too then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlCCrP2qIKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ_jqvQrYbY

rolling stone: 1 result for "the weeknd"; 0 for "marsha ambrosius"

― max, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:17 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

give it a month

― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:18 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

428 for the weeknd, zero for marsha ambrosius

lol

blah blah blah long-ass-thread, dude plays his first show this Sunday.

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/hype/to-do-list/2011/07/19/the-pick-weeknd/

Some months later, I'm curious if anybody has had a change of heart about this band. It seemed that so much of the initial criticism was predicated on the false assumption that this was a "fake" R&B act, and somehow illegitimate as such. That seems a much harder position to argue now, though.

i basically disagree w/ both your characterization of the early opposition & the idea that anything has changed in recent months. the past couple revives have been along the lines of 'what we warned has come to pass'

Haha I was about to post exactly that deej.

That's unfortunate because that sounds idiotic. Thanks for all the weeknd hysteria because without it I wouldn't be in my weeknd underground bunker with all these canned goods and all this potable water.

Outside I think they are flaying a real music critic with real integrity and they'll wear his skin as a cape, just like they did to all the others. That's ok, those lovers of fake rnb can't get past this door.

who said anything about real vs fake R&B??????????

Evan did. It's always useful to misdefine yr opponent's argument so you can then say "lol that's wrong".

tbf i think evan is thinking about an argument that only lex (would've) made

tbf lex did set the goalposts pretty firmly in the beginning w/ his guardian piece

I was basing it on a lot of the "lol pitchfork" talk. Jordan is right; much of that came from Lex (though I do think Lex was voicing a pretty common dismal of the band).

I'm not trying to dismis any criticisms of the group - Deej in particular had a lot of smart ones - but I'm just wondering if opinions about the group have changed now that perceptions about them changed.

what perceptions have changed?

right, totally forgot about lex's guardian piece

i get where evan is coming from, but i don't think many ppl's perceptions of them have changed -- not at least until their new material comes out

it's not like the weeknd have totally crossed over like frank ocean did in the last couple months or anything

so we are talking more mainstream love

not necessarily, but i'm saying the act they got compared to a lot initially has totally blown up and reached a wider audience in a way they haven't

Ugh at that Toronto Life article about Drake, The Weeknd and the rise of middle class rap.

From memory wasn't the "real R&B fans" heading for Lex's article a sub-editorial intrusion anyway?

middle class rap is the new soccer mom

pretty sure that lex was actively drawing lines in the sand between real and fake R&B xp

pretty sure that lex actively draws lines in the sand between real and fake breakfast when he gets out of bed in the morning

can't believe some dude eats fake breakfast every morning :>

finds some real shoes to wear for the day, berates the fake shoes before he goes out (xpost)

lol

Lex was pretty horrified that Beyonce was eating fake breakfast in that recent photo shoot IIRC. Maybe she was chilling to The Weeknd in that shot. I couldn't see any smoke tho.

fruit loops are a chillwave-esque cereal

Fruit loops are like that chiddy song that samples MGMT I think.

lol at this thread's latest turn

froot loops are about the most un-chillwave comestible i can think of