Beyonce - 4

still kinda stunned at diplo/switch being behind "end of time" btw

i rly cannot stand Run The World - what a clunker to close it out

that song does get worse every time i hear it

yeah fuck that song

yep

like i said earlier, i'm gonna delete that song & the tedder/warren ballad i refuse to listen to & just pretend like the real album ends w/ the deluxe tracks

"Pon De Floor" pwns in any incarnation

"End of Time" is hot tho

the bass in "end of time" is so dope

altho i'm drawing the line diplo/switch/terius collaborations spilling over into his solo album(s)

the line AT

Erykah Badu would go down just fine at Glastonbury, if anything she's the sort of R&B that would work best there (live-sounding/organic, compelling stage presence). Doglatin you've been to the festival several times you must surely know it's not just wall-to-wall-indie and hasn't been for many yeears, if it ever was.

Beyonce was amazing yesterday, total rapturous reception. Doing the standard diva-turning-up-late thing didn't go down too well (a bit of booing) but the place was in raptures from pretty much the word go. Massive turnout as well.

I got a text about the Zane Lowe thing last night, sounded hilarious. Pretty obvious everyone just hates him and that was an excuse for an explosion of hatred.

i rly cannot stand Run The World - what a clunker to close it out

Seconded. This and the Warren-Tedder song kill the momentum.

"Run the World" is so frustrating. It has so many ingredients that have made previous B songs fantastic, but I guess at some point it really is time to put the drum cadences aside.

Just kidding. Drum cadences = all time C

Except in this song.

yeah that song is just a complete sack of shit

It's shrill and the bass kicks only come in, like, twice during the whole song for four measures. Club rocker fail.

i still love "run the world" but i never listen to it as part of the album

the chorus sounds like beyonce is a pre school teacher and she instructed the girls in her class to yell GIRLS after every time she says "who run the world?"

i do like the verses better than the chorus - like dan though it's really mostly about "pon de floor" being catnip to me and beyoncé handling it adequately in its worst moments ("GIRLS!") and fairly awesomely in its best moments ("I THINK I NEED A BARBER")

yall are crazy it's a jam

yall are crazy it's a jam

toe jam more like

She didn't close on Run The World (although that song went down really well at the festival), she closed with Halo, and I think there was another song just before that.

the chorus sounds like beyonce is a pre school teacher and she instructed the girls in her class to yell GIRLS after every time she says "who run the world?"

in which surm explains call and response

it's a concept desperately in search of a song

To me the strength of this album is her and her producers' determination to avoid concepts in favor of a more considered, full-bodied songwriting. Her erotic agitprop is a large part of her appeal, but she couldn't do it forever.

i do not need a song

i need beyonce yelling at me over drumrolls

that is completely acceptable in lieu of a song

not sure about that last sentence but "her and her producers' determination to avoid concepts in favor of a more considered, full-bodied songwriting" is nail on the head

xp

i do not need a song

i need beyonce yelling at me over drumrolls

was getting bored of it tbh

luckily she offers "Countdown" here, which is a sop to us both.

brad nelson more like stan nelson

i will not stop till everyone acknowledges the greatness of "end of time"

not greatness, superiority

Til The End Of Time is better than Run The World, definitely. So is Countdown.

Just seen the Zane Lowe thing finally, I'm not sure what's funnier, the look of utter disinterest and disgust on his face or the sudden backpedalling after Twitter went mental. Was a bit weird to come back home and fine 'Zane Lowe' trending globally but not 'Beyonce' or 'Glastonbury'.

brad nelson more like stan nelson

goddamn right

anyway yeah "countdown" and "end of time" are great, superior, yes, i guess i am trying to say that i love "run the world" precisely for how it is insistent and incomplete because it surprises me every time? "concept in search of a song" is actually something i can really get down with!

i think beyonce's vocals on this album overshadow the songwriting, which is kinda whatever for the most part tbh

n which surm explains call and response

― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:15 (Yesterday)

call and response doesn't have to sound like preschool drivel.

damn, son

i pretty much agree w/ surm

just when i thought i couldnt like a new beyonce song as much as "1+1", "schoolin' life" is right on its level

it's a mckinney job of course btw! seriously when those two motherfuckers are in a prince mood they are legit batting 1.000. "fast car" "yamaha" "don't make me wait" and now this

can't really for the life of me understand where you guys are reading the "preschool" element but that's cool.

also k3vin otm on both counts. everything i like about this record is mostly dependent on beyonce's delivery.

Preschool as in it would make more sense as a Willow song.

preschoolin' life

the song is completely empty but she did it well on stage

that might be the only place it makes sense

though i kind of imagine it would be better and people might say 'she should release that' if it started as a purely live thing with beyonce just voicing major lazer for fun rather than trying to make a totally new song out of it.

i agree (cf if she'd made her "in da club" a LEAD SINGLE rather than just something thrown out there)

I'm still rolling my eyes about people complaining about lyrical simplicity or lack of songwriting in a fucking DANCE track though.

I like the lyrics of tons of dance tracks tho.

And the lyrics are hardly the only problem.

It did sound good when I heard it out tho, but I still would have rather the DJ just played "Pon de Floor".