Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

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haha - "i prefer the fat janeane"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew, Chuck, you made me look at some penises.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the "fat Janeane" is no joke, I preferred her too!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

klaus nomi did sci-fi country briefly with his rubberband lazer which i'm shocked mr. currie hasn't mentioned. actually, i'm shocked he reappeared.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay Chuck check your email.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and Parliament's "Little Ol' Country Boy" is still relevant to this discussion.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. Klaus Nomi's homosexual kabuki robot cowboy song 'Rubberband Laser' towers over Big and Rich like Mozart over Salieri. Thanks for reminding me, frenchbloke. Hit me with your laserbeams!

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

I just saw these guys do a music mafia thing on some silly awards show. Gretchen Wilson too. They totaly came off like the the B-52's with all the camp and odd stage setup. Actually, the song medley's reminded me of them too. It was hard to see what there is to dislike.

And Gretchen Wilson can fucking sing.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, like I said above, when they played live here they blatantly incoporated "Love Shack" (I think) basslines into "Love Train."

But they both sing *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay* better than Fred Schneider.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

oh that's tough

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

are there any country singers that have worse singing voices than Fred Schneider? I think I might actually want to hear that!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

hasn't jello biafra attempted to sing country songs on some of his CDs? his voice sounds more like fred's than anybody else's ever has.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Fred Schneider's voice. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Waylon's voice bad? I never thought of it that way. That 2-disc comp of his hits that came out a couple of years ago is good stuff.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I love Fred Schneider's voice. I just don't think it's tough for a country singer to have a better one in a sense.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I've always thought Waylon was completely *painful* to listen to, even when I kind of like him (which is, um, once in a great while).

Fred actually sounded great in one song on a Bosco album a couple years ago, though.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wait, I know! Butch Hancock! He can't sing at ALL! (Unless I'm thinking of Jimmy Dale Gilmore; I totally get those guys mixed up.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't hear waylon's voice as being anywhere as awful as fred schneider's. kristofferson's, on the other hand, sounds like to me like the country leonard cohen. except that leonard cohen respects his limits.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, jimmie dale gilmore has a pretty bad voice...nasally and croaky simultaneously. who'd have thought it possible?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate everybody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh that's right, It's been a while since I took a look at this thread. Anyway, I agree. But the B-52's are much much funnier and Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I still consider Cosmic Thing to be one of the finest albums in recording history. This might be because I've had it since I was 9 though.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

This album (of the decade) is getting a lot of play at frat parties and strip clubs.

― Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

er... no.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

>But the B-52's are much much funnier <

Also no (at least for the past 25 years).

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

er... no.

er, YEAH.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

this has been a really shitty decade

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The albums I prefer to Big & Rich's (and there are plenty) are definitely more exlcusively subcultural and/or youth-oriented, so I can see the logic of this being an album of the decade (so far - we're only at the half way point), even if it's not my own. Can't think of an album that anybody over 30 would offer that would be more deserving (though feel free to correct me).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C23DP.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

gah!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Those Big and Rich harmonies sounded particularly thin last night. Gretchen Wilson repeatedly blew them away when her songs came up.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

beside the point. Compared to my favorite albums of the decade that have a specific worldview (Desaparecidos, Good Charlotte, Nellie McKay for instance), Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade (hell, maybe if the Black Eyed Peas got their shit further together).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade

wha? huh?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah that entire post made absolutely no sense to me. What is an "open worldview anthem"?

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

sting - "brand new day"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that was a clumsy post, I apologize. The Big & Rich album strikes me as a very inclusive, anthemic album that, unlike most of the albums I prefer over it, don't come from quite as personal, subcultural or as youth-oriented a context (except for the few songs that are about being Big & Rich). I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

and fuck a sting

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency." - ok this has me baffled

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't think of an album that's as solid without being more distinctly personal, youth-oriented or subcultural. As I said earlier, please feel free to nominate others.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the beatles - sgt. peppers

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

cute

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so basically, what you're saying is: "it's not indie. it's well-produced. it is also a better album than anything else that is not indie and is well-produced that was released so far this decade."

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

noooo way....krisofferson's voice just sucks....waylon had a great voice! it was manly! just i'm surprised you don't like his outlaw stuff like "are you sure hank done it this way" and "don't you think this outlaw bit's done got outta hand"....god waylon was great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

if you actually read what I wrote earlier, frankE, there's plenty of non-indie stuff I like more. It's just that most are blatantly written from the perspective of someone in their early 20s or written in a personal "this song is about ME" way. So if somebody over 30 wants to say the Big & Rich is the best album of the decade so far I've got no beef with it.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kseger/confused.gif

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry I'm wasting your time

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the album of the decade has about 6 people calling it that

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

ever voted for a third party candidate, gear?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

that's an option?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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