Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

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Any chance we could move either the Beatles or the Beach Boys back a bit? It's getting so canonical white dudes that there'll be minimal interest in doing anything else after we've trawled through everyone in Q magazine.
--Matt DC

yeah you can move me to 9 or something

iatee, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

A Motown poll would be neato keen-o.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

You can put me in to run Prince if you like - having fun doing the Manics one.

I guess Neil Young and Dylan are other ones that would be good due to the huge discogs, but i do agree on the less rock white dudes quota. Think a Jacksons one would be good - so Michael, Janet, Jackson 5, any family member.

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'd love to see a Stax or Motown poll. The problem with genre polls like "disco" is that they descend into a flamewar about what does or does not belong to the genre.

i wanna be yr rhizome (seandalai), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm should I do a P-Funk poll

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno if I have the spreadsheetery skills/will to do this tbh

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I was toying with doing a Disco one. Keep those wide open is the best way I say, and let the voters decide whether they're happy with a track as disco. It worked fine on the showcasing poll, except that The Cure sneaked into the top 5.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, my job is Excel-based so now I imagining formatting possibilities and vlookup potential.. but I'm only good for Belle & Sebastian, Pulp or Modest Mouse, I'm not nearly enough of a completist for most other bands now that Blur's been done.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Alright, I made an excel file that should be useful, hopefully.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZQBPGXI6

Basically it's got a sheet where you dump in the songs and their ranks, and a formula that compares rank to point value which is listed on a separate sheet. Then there are suggestions and examples for making a pivot table to corral the data, or a suggestion for doing it manually.

I hope it's useful! /nerd

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^if I didn't make it clear.. I'm really hoping someone will find it useful. This is why I chose computers over English ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'll do Pulp at #4 if no one else objects? Understand if too close to Pulp/Manics/Boos. Mostly I just want to play with my Excel file now.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I hope it's useful! /nerd

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:11 AM (6 minutes ago)

I'll say! I was dreading doing all that ciphering manually. Thank you!

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

No problem. I've got this thread bookmarked so if there are any glitches, let me know!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Neeto!

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

I love a good excel file. Been so jealous of jaymc.xls for so long!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

:-)

Ok, I thought about this long and hard, and I really want to host a Kate Bush songs poll. Put me down. I'm down.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. ________________
4. Pulp - Finefinemusic
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. _________________
9. beach boys - iatee

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

a Pet Shop Boys Poll! My brain is already hurting.

Gukbe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

excited about the zep/GBV/KB succession. i think i could really get behind all three of those.

charlie h, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit wait. What is the timing of this? Because I'm getting married aug 20 and I feel like poll #4 will be mid august; I gotta swap out for a later spot, don't need added activities!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

You must delay the marriage!

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

congratulations, finefinemusic!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

These shouldn't take more than a week per, imo. Depends on whether you think late July will be stressful enough already.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

It might be; month end at work and tying up loose ends (I'm not getting a lot of help planning this stuff, haha) but I can happily do a poll after September 20 (late honeymoon).

Thanks for the good vibes!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 23 June 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

HEY! HEY!!! Put me down for Prince ;-)

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 07:29 (twelve years ago) link

Pet Shop Boys are go!

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 23 June 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

OK, after reading the Madonna: Classic or Dud thread, I totally want to do Madonna.

(OK, I've totally wanted to do Madonna for a while, but what I mean is, I want to run the Madonna poll. So long as I don't get SB'd off the board first.)

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

someone do Aphex pls - I don't think I have time, much as I'd like to.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

I can't do both Madonna *and* Aphex, much as I would love to.

Don't make me choose. I still never voted in that taking sides poll.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

OK, I'll do Aphex, if someone else takes Madonna.

Because although I'm probably more *familiar* with (most of) Aphex's (released) (acknowledged) work, I'm actually more *curious* about the hidden bits of Madonna's work that I don't know.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

.. which would make you a better Madonna host.

Judjing by the "Alphabet Faves" thread, there's a lot of Aphex fans. Unless it's just because no-one could think of another A Artist.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, but I think the Aphex poll would be easier to run. Lots of list-making nerds who will probably number and bulletpoint things so easily I don't have to do any work. While on the other hand, trying to squeeze a spreadsheet out of, fr'instance, the Lex is gonna be like pulling hen's teeth.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. ______________
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. _________________
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

Jamie, are you OK with Prince after the Beatles?

KDT, do you want spot #4 or #8 for whichever choice you make?

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for adding me WmC!

Any approx idea when I the KB poll will commence? September?

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

Pls slot Madonna in for No. 4

Please can Aphex Twin go in at No. 8 because after his last interview, we know he's just dying to be underneath Kate Bush. FnarGiggleSnort.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ha! Can we read that somewhere?

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

Any approx idea when I the KB poll will commence? September?

Dunno really, we'll have a better idea after the first couple have come and gone. My guess would be the 2nd half of August, but that's a very rough guess.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

Shit, I revived a thread for ya, LBI but turns out it's on ILE:

I dreamed of kate bush

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

yay, thanks WmC! That seems much less stressful for me. :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

ty Kate :-)

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

yep up for that

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (Now in progress, voting closes July 2nd)
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

My own inclination for Zep was to allow 3 days for voting and 2 days for the reveal. Billy's 10-day vote window for PSB seems too long, but is my time frame too short?

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

You suggested 3 days right? I think that's too short. Needs to be a week, I think.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I was originally going to go for a week, but that would mean finishing on a Thursday/Friday and I didn't want to roll out the results over the weekend, hence my extending it a few days. I agree with LBI I think 3 days is too short.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm coming around on that, 3 days is too short. Agreed on the weekday reveal as well. Obv everybody will wing it as needed for each ballot.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

maybe it should be up to the person in charge of the poll...people have different schedules...but 1 week max?

iatee, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm happy w/ how organized this ended up

iatee, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

imo long voting period (although more than a week isn't necessary) and brief reveal period is the way to go

some dude, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

^ Ignore this dude and his quest to rid the world of the unnecessary

Food Processors Are Grebt (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

eh if we're gonna do these i do think there are better and worse ways to execute them

some dude, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link


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