★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

i never say no...

deej is your problem basically that the Weeknd is crappy r&b that is gaining undue traction w/ hipsters and critics because of its obvious surface indicators of 'depth' and 'seriousness'?

that x how its being impressed upon those ppl thru some not so great argumentative strategies

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― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Friday, June 17, 2011 4:05 PM

many times, coming into these threads i feel like i'm throwing sawdust on puke

the less people know about music, the more adamantly dogmatic they are about what music is good and what isn't and why

this is a partial t-bomb. also that onion mustard enthusiast article is such beautiful gem, a long, fond, familiar lol at the male brain.

brainwasher: I'm reading this Ne-Yo interview in VIBE, and they're asking him about Frank Ocean and The Weeknd smh

me: gughguhg

brainwasher: VIBE: If your 2008 album represented Year Of The Gentleman, 2011 is definitely “Year of the Asshole,” in terms of R&B. What do you think of the wave of explicit R&B that’s popular now?
lol WAHT
"new wave of explicit R*B"

VIBE: Word. In a lot of ways, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd represent that polar opposite of your style.

NE-YO: I haven’t heard a lot of Frank Ocean’s stuff. I dig “Novacane,” I like his storytelling. Somebody just recently put me up on The Weeknd. I like his vibe; he’s definitely one of those cats that might curse you out on a record, but he’s going to sing, so you almost don’t even notice that he just cursed you out. I dig it though. It’s—for lack of a better word—definitely music you fu@k to, not make love. Even in that, he has some very honest songs. He says “Tell me you love me…I know you don’t love me,” talking to this stripper chick. I feel him on that. Like you need this money; you’re going to treat me like you love me, that’s what I want. That’s some real sh*t.

2011 is definitely “Year of the Asshole"

"Even in that, he has some very honest songs. He says “Tell me you love me…I know you don’t love me,” talking to this stripper chick. I feel him on that. Like you need this money; you’re going to treat me like you love me, that’s what I want. That’s some real sh*t."

...

I love it when interviewers try to project their own perspective on to their subjects, and they don't bite.

I love it when interviewers get a chance to talk to one of the biggest mainstream stars of a genre and they just want to ask questions about up-and-coming internet artists.

"Who cares what pitchfork thinks"

but you see by ASKING who cares what pitchfork thinks you are showing that you DO care what pitchfork thinks it is a riddle

LOL U GUYZ REED PITCHFRK

the only good thing about this is that it is free. the music is generic crap. aural fabric softener. at least the 3 songs i have listened to. what you need, house of balloons and wicked games. an album with a title song which is a cover. how inventive! what i find the most unbelievable though is that this piece of shit is #1 at metacritic in the 1st half of 2011. that says all about the state of pop music and the state of pop criticism these days. nobody who has ears to listen and a brain to think needs either of them.

watch me kill this thread now

I briefly flirted w/ trey songz after cb broke my heart/rihannas face but i was put off by his luvvverman thing and it felt like it was for 30smthg professionals and that you should listen to it w/ a glass of wine and watch the city through your floor-ceiling windows. weeknd sound like you're watching the end of a party through smoke.

- plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:16 (2 months ago) Bookmark

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512WPFZPK9L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

that is all

ahaha

Teedra wouldn't tolerate basic bitches squinting through smoke, she'd tell them to clean that shit up.

loooooool

it felt like it was for 30smthg professionals and that you should listen to it w/ a glass of wine and watch the city through your floor-ceiling windows

ie...really good?

oh 20smthg ~creatives~ and their total denial of the 30smthg professional that is already inside them and should be embraced

he should have worked *the suburbs* in there somewhere imo

In late breaking news, my Weeknd (and MBDTF) loving friend got hooked onto The-Dream's nine minute epic which gave me some told-you-so credit, so I promptly sealed the deal by making him listen to the more debauched Diddy-Dirty Money tunes and he adores them. I was thinking of doing a kind of R&B-reviving-Prince mix next (since he now predictably loves "Yamaha") prominently featuring "Complex Simplicity" (and, like, "Don't Make Me Wait" and "Schoolin' Life" and etc), at which point the circle will be complete.

and "friend lover"!

it's so weird given the unanimous across-the-board love for prince that r&b prince revivalism gets no commercial traction

Yeah obv "Friend Lover"! Several ER tunes may make it, unsurprisingly.

oh god i've only just realised that the whole "basic bitch" thing is, like, a ciara diss ;_;

This redeems any dubious origins:

http://wigcrypt.blogspot.com/2011/02/educated-basic-bitch.html

love that post

Also:

"As long as there are HBCU dorm rooms and $5 Drink Night at clubs in bad neighborhoods there will always be a place for basic bitch music. Some people like simple, uncomplicated music. No concepts, no alter-egos, no experimentation. Just some club bangers, some mid-tempos, some ballads...and thank Jesus in the CD booklet. You may not have MILLIONS of fans but somebody somewhere will buy download your stuff and in a few years your "flop-ass album" will be considered an "underrated classic" (See: Afrodisiac)."

AFRODISIAC IS AN UNDERRATED CLASSIC GODDAMNIT

/basicbitch

"who is she 2 u" was my favorite song that year probably

& i didnt even realize it was a leon ware sample until much later!

how do i find out about r&b prince revivalism?

listen 2 teh-dream

well yeah but is that the only one?

To start with see the songs I just listed above:

Teedra Moses - Complex Simplicity
Jazmine Sullivan - Don't Make Me Wait
Electrik Red - Friend Lover
Beyonce - Schoolin Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJVRVumRR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8CjYqZl2E

Nasty Girl always seemed like a straight-up MJ homage to me!

I think it's just the wrong time for Prince revivalism right now? Especially commercially. Maybe that's the reason a lot of this stuff has been co-opted by a lot of people who are essentially house listeners, where Prince revivalism has been going on pretty much since Prince went off the boil in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4tEWU5TEM

never forget

ooh this too then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlCCrP2qIKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ_jqvQrYbY

rolling stone: 1 result for "the weeknd"; 0 for "marsha ambrosius"

― max, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:17 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

give it a month

― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:18 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

428 for the weeknd, zero for marsha ambrosius

lol

blah blah blah long-ass-thread, dude plays his first show this Sunday.

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/hype/to-do-list/2011/07/19/the-pick-weeknd/

Some months later, I'm curious if anybody has had a change of heart about this band. It seemed that so much of the initial criticism was predicated on the false assumption that this was a "fake" R&B act, and somehow illegitimate as such. That seems a much harder position to argue now, though.

i basically disagree w/ both your characterization of the early opposition & the idea that anything has changed in recent months. the past couple revives have been along the lines of 'what we warned has come to pass'

Haha I was about to post exactly that deej.

That's unfortunate because that sounds idiotic. Thanks for all the weeknd hysteria because without it I wouldn't be in my weeknd underground bunker with all these canned goods and all this potable water.

Outside I think they are flaying a real music critic with real integrity and they'll wear his skin as a cape, just like they did to all the others. That's ok, those lovers of fake rnb can't get past this door.

who said anything about real vs fake R&B??????????

Evan did. It's always useful to misdefine yr opponent's argument so you can then say "lol that's wrong".