★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

:O

fyi here's the magician mix with the sped up glass table girls (I think)

http://soundcloud.com/themagician/magic-tape-eleven

starts about 12:30, it's fun, the weeknd sound like an indie girl band

sure, but that's just the highest level of the received wisdom cycle. in this or that niche, there are heavily hyped artists & sacred cows that flirt with but never really through to mainstream acceptance. in their little niche-worlds, however, tastemakers are still leading the way and fans are claiming that hype doesn't matter, that they're just responding honestly. and in the sub-niches below those niches (local scenes, for instance), the same thing happens again.

mainstream tastemakers and camp followers aren't any more guilty of this than anyone else, they're just more visible. unless your taste is totally isolated from any critical/hype apparatus, you're almost certainly engaged with a similar dynamic, even if it's just with your friends. i just don't see anything particularly egregious about the fact that people do things collectively, as well as individually.

― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Friday, June 17, 2011 12:52 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this implies there isnt a larger structural heirarchy of power dynamics or w/e sorry been reading Foucault but it is true

oh jesus the last thing we need in this thread is a Foucault reference.

well its sorta the best way of explaining how we are critiquing the critical love affair w/ a 7/10 at best R&B album

i mean i reject the 'youre just a part of the hype cycle!' argument mainly bcuz its not like al & i dont ever enjoy records that are hyped and dislike others. we're removing ourselves from that kind of kneejerk discourse simply by saying, well, this record is where i would draw a line (not to put words in al's mouth he can say if he disagrees)

http://i.imgur.com/PGZQR.jpg

yeah, but disparaging a record or critic for being part of the hype cycle is hypocritical and tiresome unless you're totally outside of not only the mainstream hype cycle, but whatever hype cycles dominate in the niches you actually care about. i mean sure, everybody has to draw the line somewhere, but it's just as kneejerk to slam an album for being overhyped as it is to express interest in something other people are listening to and talking about.

if you think you're striking a blow against empire by raising your eyebrow at the weeknd record, then cool, but i'm not entirely convinced.

thats an absurd standard. 'if you're not ending segregation, then telling a racist to stfu isnt really striking a blow against the system'

i'm not sure racism is really the issue here

yeah, but disparaging a record or critic for being part of the hype cycle is hypocritical and tiresome unless you're totally outside of not only the mainstream hype cycle, but whatever hype cycles dominate in the niches you actually care about.

it is? i disagree

the issue here is "lol deej"

i'm not sure racism is really the issue here

― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Friday, June 17, 2011 1:42 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

... its not

and the analogy is more like: if you're a running-dog cheerleader for capitalist interests, you can't really begrudge other capitalists their success

http://nobodyputsbabyinahorner.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/11w6ck2-jpg.gif

that was an extreme example to show the fallacy in your argument

hey grady, if you dont care, why post?

i love everything!

and the analogy is more like: if you're a running-dog cheerleader for capitalist interests, you can't really begrudge other capitalists their success

― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Friday, June 17, 2011 1:44 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what? that doesnt make any sense as an analogy.

http://i.imgur.com/jTzHG.gif

would rather have a puppy on my turntable than the weeknd amirite

ask not for who the thread trolls

http://i.imgur.com/BA2im.gif

i would go on basically forever, but i have places to be. deej wins!

http://i.imgur.com/Lw5cb.gif

hey grady, if you dont care, why post?

― arachno-misogynist (D-40), Friday, June 17, 2011 1:44 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i would go on basically forever, but i have places to be. deej wins!

― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Friday, June 17, 2011 1:51 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

since when do u not have the time to write 8 paragraphs

fwiw im pretty sure we were talking past each other & a couple posts would have figured out where the discrepancy was but w/e if yall want to play 'lol deej' go ahead. sorry for trying to talk about the thread topic in the thread

these threads are 3000x less interesting when its a bunch of bros going "yeah cool record" just imo

i'll get back to this, just gotta go do a thing

http://i.imgur.com/S2Bcn.gif

that gif would make anything seem fresh

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/k1QQvm.gif

gr8080 blowing up the universe at this rate <3

i really don't have the patience to read this whole thread, but i will say that the funny thing about the chicago reader quote is that the weeknd sounds like pop radio circa late 2010, let alone 2012

also the new weeknd track is terrible

there's a new track?

weird that i have this thread bookmarked and didnt know that!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_YyRBYZjM&feature=player_embedded

i don't think anyone posted it

its wack but then i dont really know how its all that diff from the album

it's like "fisher price my first major lazer sample"

i was thinking he was going for a fake sade thing w/ the military snare part

its super blatant though

i think thats probably my big issue w/ the weeknd in general is that they make 'subtlety' seem really very not subtle & clumsy

'subtlty' is always in big block-letter quote marks

fake sade thing

as in, the march-snare part of 'soldier of love'

deej maybe kanye & the weeknd will collaborate & you can kill two unsubtle birds w/ one unsubtle stone

so obv a fake

i dont think u 'get' talking about music grady -- i say sit this one out & marinate on chill stuff

i would go on basically forever, but i have places to be. deej wins!

― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol cont is taking a page out of the some dude playbook