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tune in now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/radcliffe/

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

live Durutti Column

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone know the tracklisting of this 'Best Of' thing?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't seem to find it online..

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Thursday, 9 September 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

it's there, i'm listening to it now...

direct url for the real audio:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/r2_radcliffewed.rpm

(this should open in your browser. i always rightclick and select 'play in realplayer' as the controls are then easier to use)

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard it, on R2.

I liked the guitar playing a lot. It reminded me of the Edge trying to sound like Jimi Hendrix. I didn't likethe backing tracks so much.

It made me think that I ought to have some of the DC's music. What do you think I would like?

― the chimefox, Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

PF - I will do you a CD of the best stuff if you like.

If you were to choose a whole album I think you'd like 'The Return Of' (the debut), 'LC' (the second album), 'Without Mercy' or 'Vini Reilly'.

My fave is 'Obey The Time', but it may not be your cup of tea.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I actually prefer Another Setting.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that's my second favourite. Actually I will put some tracks from this on yr CD, PF. Some good stuff on there - Bordeaux, The Beggar, You've Heard It Before.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't forget Tomorrow from Circuses and Bread! It's criminal that all those CDs are so expensive.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i download some after they were mentioned on the "break up" thread (can't recall which tracks) and i have to say i was not impressed. maybe i got the wrong songs but the ones i listened to seemed, uh, too... "noodly", i guess, is the only way i can think of putting it.

― dysøn (dyson), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

They're not expensive here!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I like a lot of the different styles of Vini, all of which sound uniquely Vini, but amongst the catalog there is definitely a selection of songs that are supremely good moody new wave/pop songs. See above: Bordeaux, The Beggar, Tommorow etc

They cost like 30 dollars in america.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I count myself spectacularly lucky that I got most of the mid-1990s reissues free thanks to a friend.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Best Durutti Ever : 'Say What You Mean EP'. Just perfect.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Are the latest DC UK reissues still in print?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

No I think they're OOP now, but v.easy to get. You could get them in quite big chains like HMV until recently, but I think the supply has dried up. Most decent indie outlets have them or can get them - Sister Ray, Action etc. Also v.easy to get on ebay. They're usually £6.99 or £7.99 - if you really want them it might be worth ordering a few from the UK, although the exchange rate is crap for you now.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Amazon seems to have them. Actually the one I don't have is Without Mercy, which is the one you rarely see. I had it on vinyl but it was a dodgy pressing and I never got around to getting the CD. I must get this before they disappear for good.

Great DC memory from 1985 - them doing half of Without Mercy live on the Tube 'Factory Special' one Friday night. Also on were Section 25 doing 'Hilltop' (a video - not live IIRC) and the Factory All-Stars fronted by Simon Topping, Beverly McDonald, Caesar amongst others doing various songs including LWTUA. On a FRIDAY TEA-TIME! Anyone else see this?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

don't think they've ever been released in the US in any format, actually. When I was in high school I had to go to some fancy stores and pay top dollar to get original CDs, I had Valuable Passages which I paid 25 or so bucks for, which seemed like a ton of money to my 15 yr old mind. Maybe it's a job for Acute, or perhaps LTM will be on the case. LTM stuff used to be pricey here but now Darla's carrying them for 15 bucks.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Doc: if you get time to make this CD, I would appreciate it: thanks: I look forward to receiving it. !

― the chimefox, Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Cerysmatic Factory provide details of The Best of The Durutti Column double compilation, now due for release on October 11th.

Disc one

1. Sketch For Summer
2. Conduct
3. Sketch For Winter
4. Lips That Would Kiss
5. For Belgian Friends
6. Danny
7. Never Known
8. Jacqueline
9. The Missing Boy
10. Prayer
11. Spent Time
12. Without Mercy 1
13. Without Mercy 2
14. The Room
15. Tomorrow
16. LFO Mod

Disc two

1. What Is It To Me (Woman)
2. Otis
3. Requiem Again
4. Home
5. Contra Indications
6. People's Pleasure Park
7. My Irascible Friend
8. Fado
9. Sing To Me
10. Pigeon
11. Mello (Part 1)
12. Falling
13. Woman
14. Requiem For Mother

Title: The Best of The Durutti Column
Label: Warner
Catalogue number: 5046753932
Release date: 11 October 2004

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002XOZY2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

not bad!

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume you're not talking about the cover.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

*looks* erk!

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks good. I wonder if the whole of Without Mercy 1 and 2 are on there or have they edited them? Unedited, they're approx 39 minutes together.

So pleased to see Contra-Indications on there. I love that track!

PF - I will try and make the compilation CD this week.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That first disc has the same tracklisting as "Valuable Passages" with "LFO/MOD" stuck on the end (wasn't on the original CD, just the vinyl version), so I guess the two "Without Mercy" tracks are the excerpts used on that compilation.

― Andrew Norman, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

what a strange record cover.

I used to have valuable passages on CD but lost it, then had it on vinyl, I'll have to check but did the double vinyl have more songs? Just LFO/MOD the difference?

I hadn't heard any newer stuff untill I got limewire and was able to dl some. I was suprised how good much of it is. Esp. a song called Drinking Time.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

no spanish lament!

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't even recognise any of the titles on the second disc except for the last song. where are they from?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Otis" and "Requiem Again" are both from Vini Reilly
"Mello (Part 1)" is from Rebellion
"My Irascible Friend" and "Fado" are from Sex & Death

etc

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ah it's the songs from sex and death I didn't recognize.

really I barely know the name of any of his songs, I guess.

should I buy:

obey the time
bread and circuses
time was gigantic
dry
fidelity
rebellion

someone else's party was the first album I picked up since Vini Reilly and it's excellent.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had Valuable Passages on vinyl for years. Kinda wish I had it on CD instead, but I don't recall seeing it on CD, either. Dr. C might be right that the Say What You Mean/Mean What You Say EP is best.

― Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i have the 2xLP of it, but i don't think it's ever been issued on CD afaik

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Otis" = absolute classic. Better combination of samples and original music than Moby could ever have dreamed of. I saw Vini walking past the office I where I work a couple of weeks ago, and also Howard Devoto a couple of days before (separately); both with hands full of Tesco bags, so I'm pretty sure he does eat occasionally.

― neil tacus (tacit), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

According to this here discog : http://users.rcn.com/rpsweb/durutti-column/discog.html#releases, Valuable Passages had an excerpt from 'Piece of An Out Of Tune Grand Piano' and 'Blind Elevator Girl' on it. Otherwise, yes - CD 1 is the same as VP.

It was issued on CD.

Kyle - buy Obey The Time. Absolutely fantastic recd.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i am slowly falling in love with dc. first i had a night in new york, a cd i hardly ever listened to. then i got lc which totally smashed me. especially the 1st track, sketch for dawn i with some amazing drumming and missing boy. then i got the return which is slightly less good but still nice as the doc already said. i just ordered vini reilly.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

as said before, I had Valuable Passages on CD, paid a good deal of money for it at the time...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Valuable Passages" was my first ever CD purchase and thus has a place in my heart forever.

"Say what you mean" was also my first taste of DC, 99p in HMV sale in August 85. Played nothing else for a month once I bought it.

― Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

And I've just found out that the Cardiff gig has been cancelled. Absolutely gutted. 8-(

― Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Now playing : The Nosebleeds - Fascist Pigs.

Vinnie on fine form.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

No "Twenty Trees"!?1?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone here have the 4 CDR rarities collection that the mailing list put out a couple of years back? Quite the labor of love, I have a copy of it on an mp3 disc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, mail me off board with the track listing. I'm interested!

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Vini Reilly is obviously an anagram of Iggy Pop, looking at that cover.

I found Circuses and Bread in the used bin today so I jumped on it. I need to get more, now.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Some photos from the Ronnie Scott's gig are here :

http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/index.html

Watch out for the shots of Bruce Mitchell - words fail me!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i got vini reilly yesterday. different from the others i had. lots of voice samples vini plays guitar over. and a flamenco influence. altogether it sounds pretty world-ish to my ears. i like it. less than lc but still. a grower.

the reissues on factory once/london are grate. hilarious liner notes by tony wilson, lots of excellent bonus tracks which are sometimes better than the original album tracks. nice covers and different colours for each cd inside and on the edge of the cd. they are quite expensive though. but i guess i will try to get all the others i haven't yet. next one on my list: another setting ( unfortunately obey the time seems to be sold out at the german amazon already). the few albums on vini's site are at 15 pounds. that's quite a rip-off, isn't it?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The reissues are usually around £7-9 here. Stocks of new ones are definitely starting to run out, but you can easily get them 2nd hand.

I think you'll like 'Another Setting', Alex.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone say why it is that Circuses and Bread was never rereleased?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well it was originally on FBN, rather than FAC. Also Crepuscule put out a CD of it in 1993. This probably means that it was left out when London took on the FAC catalogue.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Really! I was always wondering why that was so and now you've summed it all up for me. Thanks! (I do have a Factory copy so I am not bereft.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/21/guitar-hero-vini-reilly-durutti-column-factory-records-interview

― MaresNest, Friday, 21 July 2023 11:27 (two years ago)

Hell of a read. You just want peace for him.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 July 2023 12:23 (two years ago)

Yes and to go to Cordoba.

― nashwan, Friday, 21 July 2023 12:26 (two years ago)

Yeah that’s a wonderful read. But I’m ashamed to admit I thought he died some years ago.

― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 21 July 2023 14:58 (two years ago)

What Ned said.

― djh, Friday, 21 July 2023 22:13 (two years ago)

Read this earlier today. So sad.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 July 2023 22:23 (two years ago)

poor guy, but he sounds to be dealing with the situation about as best as could be hoped for. glad he's housed and seems to have some people who care about him.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 21 July 2023 22:26 (two years ago)

I was shocked to hear a Durutti Column song on THE BEAR a few weeks ago. I remember that he asked fans for financial help some years back when he was on the verge of becoming unhoused

― beamish13, Saturday, 22 July 2023 00:14 (two years ago)

That scene in The Bear was so perfect too, hope he gets/got a good wedge for that.

― MaresNest, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:00 (two years ago)

According to Spotify he has 340,000 monthly listeners. Hopefully that’s enough to give him financial security.

But, yeah a poignant read. That line about gusts of wind blowing his words away is so vivid. Never knew about his early life on the streets or suicide attempts.

― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 22 July 2023 11:07 (two years ago)

Always wondered what he got paid for having his music in "Jerry Maguire." That was a pretty major film, Tom Cruise for pete's sake.

― henry s, Saturday, 22 July 2023 12:50 (two years ago)

Pretty shocking tbh. Amazed he survived, never mind made music, never mind that it was so wonderful xp

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 July 2023 12:52 (two years ago)

He should write a book. His instagram posts are great. Very political and very strongly worded. Doesn’t seem to have lost any energy on that front. And if this interview is any sign he has a lot to say.

― dan selzer, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:03 (two years ago)

There was this which I have but haven’t read! https://www.citizeneditions.com/products/calm-by-vini-reilly-second-edition

― dan selzer, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:05 (two years ago)

A great man.

― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:34 (two years ago)

xp You should read that now! And then send it to me, because it is sold out :(

― henry s, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:35 (two years ago)

one year passes...

hey guys i don'thave anything super pertinent. just wanted to post one of my favorite durutti column songs. it's eley rudge on the vocal and it's sounding so beautiful this rainy morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Qq_4AJTy0
the durutti column feat. eley rudge ― "falling" (2001)

― MUFFY TEPPERMAN WAS THE OG KAREN (Austin), Wednesday, 12 February 2025 18:52 (one year ago)

four months pass...

Prominently sampled on new Dev Haynes/Blood Orange. Ideal summer listening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTaz0TB9Zco

― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 28 June 2025 14:09 (eleven months ago)

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb6K0rJGu5w
a brazillian brega version of suedehead - I think Vini would like it :)

― fpsa, Friday, 10 April 2026 13:44 (two months ago)

one month passes...

New album soon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd3bb0zG09Q

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 13:53 (two weeks ago)

The Durutti Column - Renascent
https://thedurutticolumn.bandcamp.com/album/renascent

Releases July 10, 2026

― djmartian, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 14:44 (two weeks ago)

wow, an unexpected pleasure!

― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 27 May 2026 15:04 (two weeks ago)

great news!

― the manda-whore-ian and hoe-gu (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 May 2026 16:10 (two weeks ago)

Wow, he recovered from his strokes and can play again? Amazing, what a gift for all involved.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 17:49 (two weeks ago)

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