Best Bryan Ferry solo album?

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Why Bete Noire. I'd genuinely like to know (despite the fact that a thread already exists).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 May 2007 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not so much a fan of the "slick yuppie production", as Geir puts it above, but I just love some of the songs that came out on that album: "Right Stuff", "New Town", "Day for Night", "Limbo"...

I was listening to Boys and Girls in the car today, and that's pretty great as well.

Joe, Thursday, 10 May 2007 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Boys And Girls" is the one I would have voted for hadn't it been for "Bete Noire". Although "Mamouna" is also great and "Taxi" is the best of his covers albums. The rest of his solo albums I don't like much at all.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

I love "Day for Night" and "Kiss and Tell," but there's waaaaaayy too much echo and thumping percussion. Ferry doesn't even bother enunciating syllables (a friend calls BN's predecessor Bryan Ferry's Cocteau Twins record).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Let's Stick Together. "Heart on My Sleeve" was on the jukebox at my college pinball place. Good jukebox.

ellaguru, Thursday, 10 May 2007 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

results!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Given the responses I'm not too surprised Let's Stick Together did so well, and though I don't get Boys and Girls ranking so high it's not completely unexpected either. The pleasant surprise, I guess, is Bride Stripped Bare. I'll assume the As Time Goes By vote is a joke, even though I happen to like that album.

sw00ds, Thursday, 17 May 2007 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

This video for "This Is Tomorrow" is sick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqrTUNrWSM&feature=related

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 January 2008 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

If this thread started today I'd probably vote for Dylanesque.

da croupier, Friday, 18 January 2008 05:42 (eighteen years ago)

The "Positively 4th Street" on that record is outstanding.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I really like the whole thing! I haven't heard every Ferry solo album but those I have feel a lot more grab-bag and/or just buried in "atmosphere."

<i>Dylanesque</i> >>>>>>>> <i>I'm Not There</i> soundtrack, too.

da croupier, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

The "let's get my live band and run through a bunch of Dylan songs" concept works in large part because Ferry's such an idiosyncratic artist himself, and one who normally stultifies everything with studio perfectionism. The relative (and I mean relative) tossed-off quality is really charming.

da croupier, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Alfred, I've been (slowly) listening to Scott & your discussion re. the Roxy/Ferry albums, and today listened to the Stranded piece. I thought what you said about "Psalm" being 70s-Elvis-style gospel missed the mark, because "Psalm" is more unrestrained than any 70s Elvis I know. But then I listened to Another Time, Another Place for the first time, and thought that the Elvis connections here were more clear, in particular with the 1971 album Elvis Country. That album is mostly a covers album, full of introspective country-folk songs that frequently venture into ennui. While ATAP isn't a country-folk album, it's not so far from one (and of course Roxy at the time played with country, cf. the opening of "If There Is Someone" and "Prairie Rose"). I'd say that ATAP is akin to that Elvis album, in the sensibility it explores. Heck, it even shares a song ("Funny How Time Slips Away"). I was surprised at how much I loved ATAP today---def. will be returning to it again soon.

Euler, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

I thought what you said about "Psalm" being 70s-Elvis-style gospel missed the mark, because "Psalm" is more unrestrained than any 70s Elvis I know

You could be right. I've listened to maybe two albums' worth of Elvis in this period, and what made the comparison plausible was the way Ferry flitted between camp and sincerity using the restrained voice he essayed on For Your Pleasure's "Beauty Queen." A couple of my judgments were improvised. I'm pretty sure if I heard "Psalm" now I'd change my mind.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

thanks for listening, by the way!

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

i grew up with Bete Noir and Boys and Girls being staples in my house as a little kid, and then got really into Roxy later in life. now I'm really pissed that I never heard Foolish Things until just now. was missing out.

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

xp yeah, it's been interesting---I was looking for a way to structure/motivate my listening through Ferry's oeuvre in particular, and this is doing the trick.

Euler, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

Trying to form thoughts on the B+G-Bete Noir period was my favorite part, actually.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

"Don't Stop the Dance" from Boys and Girls sounds like the most amazing thing to me right now. I want to start a band and make music based on the way this song feels.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 05:04 (thirteen years ago)

Incredible song.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 05:07 (thirteen years ago)

have you heard the 12" single?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)

Truly. Good fucking music.

Et tant pis pour Byzance puisque que j´ai vu Pigalle (Michael White), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

that Nile Rodgers slink-guitar stretched out gorgeously

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Putting in a plug for my friend/sometime ILM poster sw00ds (couple of posts on this thread), who'll be writing about Ferry's cover albums this week at One Week//One Band.

http://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/

clemenza, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

Aweesome. The Go-Betweens week made for good reading.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

Ned, sw00ds, and I on The Jazz Age and Olympia:

http://rockcritics.com/2013/02/21/roxymania-re-turnedre-tuned/

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

Only three people listened to the last two Bryan Ferry albums, but they all recorded a conversation about it.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

saw Bryan Ferry last night. holy shit, what a show. i sort of expected some kind of low-key midtempo lush affair but this was a pure rock show, like something from the late '80s. complete with some sick guitar solos and great backup singers wailing away and this incredible sax player who looked like she stepped out of a robert palmer video. we talked to her after the show, she had been in some other band playing saxophone, and she said Ferry had heard her music and sent her a message on myspace(!) and that's how she ended up in his band.

nomar, Friday, 12 August 2016 17:57 (nine years ago)

How's his voice? Last thing I've seen from him live were some videos from a couple years ago, I think some TV performance of Loop De Li, and seemed somewhat deteriorated. I'd love to catch one of those shows if he's singing at 50/60% of his top form.

cpl593H, Friday, 12 August 2016 18:59 (nine years ago)

A friend of mine said that he saw him in NYC and that his voice was much stronger than its been. I don't know how that could be – these things tend not to reverse themselves after 15+ years. But he said he sounded great.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 August 2016 19:25 (nine years ago)

his voice was showing its age a bit but i thought he acquitted himself well throughout. he seemed a little buried in the mix for much of the show (which i didn't mind; you could hear him well and the band was so on point), but during the quieter songs he sounded good. his aging quaver works nicely for his style.

nomar, Friday, 12 August 2016 19:26 (nine years ago)

Good to hear. I will say: as much as I appreciate some of the nuance of his voice in old age, I would much prefer to hear "Avonmore" sung by the Bryan Ferry featured on the cover of that album rather than the nearly-70 one who actually sang it.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 August 2016 23:16 (nine years ago)

I dunno, Roger Daltrey was sounding pretty ragged with the Who, then he had surgery on his nodes (or whatever) and after I saw him solo and with the Who and he sounded pretty good. And god knows Ferry isn't singing as hard as Roger.

Anyway, I saw Ferry last year or so and he sounded great.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2016 03:41 (nine years ago)

He sounded ragged but OK when I saw him in 2011.

Can he sing this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrrG2WTzFXw

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 August 2016 03:52 (nine years ago)

Stupid black monolith for me.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2016 03:54 (nine years ago)

Depends on your browser. I had problems at work yesterday morning b/c I was on Chrome.

It's "The Name of the Game."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 August 2016 12:08 (nine years ago)

I have no problem on Chrome on my phone, will check computer and safari in a bit. That's where I've had problems.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2016 13:06 (nine years ago)

I know this isn't "solo Ferry", but "Same Old Scene" is so unique, amazing, revolutionary--with the chilling synths, everything is perfectly layered and the groove is unbeatable. "Same Old Scene" sounds like it laid the basis for all of the new wave music of the first half of the 80s, I believe Duran Duran said it was a very influential song for them (Ministry even recorded a demo of it as well that's on Spotify), so I am surprised it is not more widely known. Despite Flesh And Blood having these soaring, catchy singles, the album has an oneiric quality that I really enjoy for all of this period's transitional awkwardness.

pplasma, Saturday, 13 August 2016 14:21 (nine years ago)

an amazing song

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 August 2016 15:14 (nine years ago)

All those burbling synths in the verse are the best

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 13 August 2016 16:15 (nine years ago)

I love Flesh & Blood.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 13 August 2016 17:45 (nine years ago)

Flesh & Blood is the only Roxy album I don't really rate but Same Old Scene is an incredible song.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 13 August 2016 19:28 (nine years ago)

I should clarify that I don't really think of F&B as Roxy in the way I do pretty much every other album of theirs (including Avalon). It's far too broad stroke pop, too new wave textured and too session-y in a way that none of their other records are. But on its own, I really enjoy it.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 14 August 2016 14:09 (nine years ago)

I thought his voice sounded pretty good in DC a few weeks back

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 August 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)

Didn't Eno chose "Same Old Scene" and "Mother of Pearl" as his favorite post-himself Roxy songs?

I checked again those tv performances, which were on Jools Holland... He sounds pretty good on Loop De Li, but on Virginia Plain all you can hear are the backing vocals. Anyway, glad to know he's OK. I'm all for it if his singing is on Frantic level.

cpl593H, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:09 (nine years ago)

I post this occasionally, because it's fun, but this Icehouse song (replete with Eno backing vocals) is such a wonderful "SOS"-era Roxy rip-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekufPK0pGvE

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:21 (nine years ago)

If that's "Hey little girl", yeah we noticed back then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:27 (nine years ago)

No, it's a song called Spanish Gold.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:01 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

Have spent the last week or so with Mamouna. A record I never rated much sounds like Kane stalking Xanadu nearly a quarter century on. The tunes are runway model skeletal, the performances so comped I’m not sure most of the performers could spot their parts if asked (indeed, Manzanera couldn’t on “Don’t Want to Know”), the lyrics often a collection of empty cliches. And for all of his celebrated return, Eno is all but inaudible in the dense,murky fog that is Bob Clearmountain’s mix.

And yet...yet...I find this record almost hypnotically beautiful. There is a handful of great songs. “Which Way to Turn” is gorgeous and dripping with dewy sadness, and “Chain Reaction” is one of his best post Avalon pieces. There are some fabulous individual moments as well, including the bridge to “Gemini Moon,” and Ferry’s melancholy piano coda to the title track.

But the record works best as a piece – impressionistic pieces of taut, aimless funk and drifting sambas to nowhere adorned by Ferry’s admirable croon. In retrospect, this is the last time his voice would sound this way – by Frantic, the legendarily fulsome baritone would charitably be characterized by Chris Roberts as “lived in, not merely dined in,” but in truth had clearly entered its decline phase.

Here, though, it’s merely a lead instrument, adorned by his thickest, most mucous-y production yet, chock full of guitar atmospherics and Prophet pads that threaten to drown out the Eno treatments – which in any case do not remake or remodel the production here so much as sink into it like a luxury sofa.

His greatest collection of songs? No. His most memorable album? Nope. But his best, most consistent record? Quite possibly.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 5 July 2019 02:21 (six years ago)

Well said. Mamouna's got some gorgeous bits to offer. I think I especially love the run from track 4 to 6: title track - The Only Face - The 39 Steps.

I would have voted for Bête Noire in this poll, which is a longtime favourite of mine. Boys & Girls is a close second.
I'm a massive Ferry fan but the winner of this poll - These Foolish Things - would never have crossed my mind to vote for. I don't dislike it, it's fun... but it may be my least favourite Ferry solo album!

Valentijn, Friday, 5 July 2019 06:23 (six years ago)

lovely review Mr. Soto

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 30 November 2023 01:39 (two years ago)

That's a lovely review of Mamouna, Alfred. Always thought that the middle section of the album - 'Your Painted Smile' to 'Which Way to Turn' - could be Ferry's strongest solo work.

This run of goodness abruptly ends with 'Wildcat Days' - it didn't help that I originally misheard the title of the song as being 'W**ker days (and lonely nights)'. I know you're cultivating the image of the romantically frustrated lothario, Bryan, but have some decency, man.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 4 December 2023 11:32 (two years ago)

"Gemini Moon" is a nothing too. "Chain Reaction" tho is one of his strongest closers.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2023 13:03 (two years ago)

Ah but “Gemini Moon” has this one sublime moment during the slightly atonal bridge just before the two minute mark where he sings about the “hangman card.”

Also, since we’re talking about them, I have just noticed that for some reason he’s swapped the sequencing of “Wildcat Days” and “Gemini Moon” on the deluxe.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 06:27 (two years ago)

Man I adore "Your Painted Smile". The live versions I've heard are fine but lose that studio crafted melancholy.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:00 (two years ago)

oh and thanks all!

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:12 (two years ago)

"Gemini Moon" is a nothing too. "Chain Reaction" tho is one of his strongest closers.


FWIW, I would say there are three kind of aimless tunes on this record where Ferry seems to be working overtime to muster up some tension: this, “Wildcat Days” and Al-fave “The 39 Steps.” Each feature a slightly malevolent groove, whoosh-y sonics and … not much else (tho the latter does try to spice things up with an airy B-section and a sort of reverse guitar solo).

I still find something interesting in each, but they def. form this album’s “Writer’s Block Trilogy” with “N.Y.C.” not lagging too far behind.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

I'll save "The 39 Steps" for those reasons and for Ferry's double-tracked vocal; I'm a sucker for singers who overdub themselves singing in a higher register.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

We fans needed all the strange mid-90s Ferry could muster.

Also, bereft of the double tracked vocal, but a more illuminating window into Bryan and Brian’s then-resurgent partnership than the song they wrote together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPh7EKKwDI4

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 21:41 (two years ago)

Eno does his best to enliven "The 39 Steps" in that remix, but it's for naught. Ferry hasn't written a good one-chord song since "The Bogus Man", except maybe "The Main Thing". He claims to write all his songs on piano, how the hell do you write something like "N.Y.C." that way? Play a minor triad in 4/4 at mid-tempo and say, "OK, that's my song"?

His two-chord songs of this era can be good ("Which Way to Turn") or bad ("Wildcat Days").

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 December 2023 16:08 (two years ago)

The 39 Steps >> The Main Thing

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2023 16:10 (two years ago)

"The Bogus Man" may be the first song where he does the octave doubling on the vocal.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 December 2023 19:07 (two years ago)

I've heard this now. Horoscope would definitely be the worst Ferry album if not for Dylanesque. None of the songs are better than their better-known versions, though "The Only Face" is an interesting alternate up-tempo take, and "Mother of Pearl" is such a strong lyric set that it can even survive being Milli Vanillified. "Raga" is so dull as a track that I'm surprised he bothered writing lyrics for it. There are some really poor sequencing decisions - "Desdemona" coming after "The Only Face", in the same key and tempo, makes me think I'm hearing the same song twice in a row every time I listen. Going for the thick layering of Mamouna was a much better decision than Horoscope's attempt to imitate Bête Noire's dancier/poppier sound.
I see that "Loop De Li" was originally titled "Your Love Has Died" on the earlier versions of the record, maybe he felt that was inappropriate in light of his then-wife's subsequent fate.
Sketches is a nice, evocative mix, with the two versions of "The Only Face" again the highlights.
Thanks Alfred for your review, but this had to make me laugh:

Some fragments suggest that Ferry could’ve eked out a sideline as a film composer.

Point taken about the atmospheric nature of the instrumentals, except they have to do usually in a couple of weeks what he takes years to complete. Any 1989 porn film composer could have cranked out "Robot" in an afternoon.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:04 (two years ago)

"Robot" gets tedious quick but it's still pretty cool coming from Ferry.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

nine months pass...

Posting Timothy White's original review of Bête Noire, an extraordinarily hyperbolic one.

https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Musician/1980/1988/Musician-1988-01.pdf

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2024 20:47 (one year ago)

I'm surprised that afaict no thread has mentioned that new (to us) song "Star," which he created at least partly in collaboration with the Nine Inch Nails guys. Sounded ok, though Ferry felt a bit relegated to a supporting role.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71VQD8ohaUo

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:29 (one year ago)

Happy birthday, Love God!

("Star" is okay)

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:30 (one year ago)

six months pass...

The album he’s done with Amelia Barratt is quite an unexpected and rather delightful curio. Though part of me wonders how the backing tracks would’ve evolved if he’d turned them into ‘regular’ songs.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 28 March 2025 18:20 (one year ago)

Barratt has zero charisma and writes duller lyrics (this ain't Dry Cleaning), though some of Ferry's keyboard parts compensate.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2025 14:03 (one year ago)

three months pass...

Heard on the radio the title track of Another Time, Another Place for the first time ever today... what a great hidden gem! (Roxy have long been one of my favorite bands but I barely know BF's solo records).

(Fantastic live version here.)

visiting, Monday, 14 July 2025 06:27 (ten months ago)

The sleeve of ATAP is my all-time favorite album cover by anyone... but I've never heard the record itself, which got mentioned just once upthread.

visiting, Monday, 14 July 2025 06:37 (ten months ago)

Mamouna 0

Hang on a fuckin second here!

Bete Noire could do with a little more love too

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Monday, 14 July 2025 07:47 (ten months ago)

For the title tracks alone....

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 July 2025 09:33 (ten months ago)

That’s a killer live version.

The record suffers a bit from sequel-itis in that it is the same conceit as These Foolish Things. But it relies less on comedy and song-for-song, it’s close to its predecessor’s equal, if a bit straighter and generally an easier listen front to back. “The ‘In’-Crowd” is a legit Ferry classic. “Smoke Gets in Your Eyes” is gorgeous. “You Are My Sunshine” starts off like we’re reprising “Psalm” (and doesn’t end a mile from it either). The Cooke cover features lots of delightful Eddie Jobson organ and Paul Thompson bounce.

“It Ain’t Me, Babe” is probably the track that distinguishes this record from Foolish Things: instead of another Great Reimagining of the Master, this one gets by on a fabulous vocal, dynamic interplay and a layered, stately arrangement. And on any given day, I’d probably rather listen to it over his (admittedly classic) “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall.”

Not sure there’s a duff track here. Very underrated record.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 July 2025 13:03 (ten months ago)


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