Pazz n Jop vs. Jackin Pop

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I just can't bring myself to buy a record with a title as stupid as "Return to Cookie Mountain"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

ROFFLE - those are great!

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

No commentary or am i missing something?

if you mean comments from voters, everyone who wrote them has theirs attached to their individual ballots.

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Rod's essay is cool too, except why for hate the Sword? :(

xp King/Count T.I. is great x1000

― f. scott baio (nate_patrin), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

x-post -- Yeah, keep scrolling down if you have to (I noticed that with IE here at work everything was at the very bottom of the page).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

why for hate the Sword? :(

I kinda think they're eh. Mind you, Danava deserve more credit (and John D. agrees with me).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Rod hates the Sword, though.

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

if you mean comments from voters, everyone who wrote them has theirs attached to their individual ballots.

FYI, this is a kind of a pain in the ass. Have you considered a quip gallery?

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha jess nice job

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

the Rapture wuz robbed.

Unfortunately they survived the assault.

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, this made my IE browser freeze -- but in Firefox it works just dandy.

Congrats on all the hard work, Matos.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Rod hates the Sword, though.

Putting them under the category of "false/hipster metal" kinda threw me but I'd probably have to ask him, yeah. (How I first found out about 'em: watching Headbangers' Ball on MTV2 waiting for Wonder Showzen to come on)

― f. scott baio (nate_patrin), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

that's a category, not a dis

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but I usually see said category preceded by the words "death to". (I figure Rod is probably smarter than that tho.)

― f. scott baio (nate_patrin), Friday, 5 January 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh my

― database update failed (sanskrit), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

It looks great, Matos! Love the Go-Betweens references in your essay.

(For some reason my ballot isn't listed)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

SHOCKING

― database update failed (sanskrit), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

industrial espionage

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

your ballot was blank, Alfred

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

compare and contrast:

matos compiled jackin pop with

stefan's stats: BEST ALBUMS OF 2006 (NOW 129 EOY-LISTS INCLUDED)
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/676337

both have tv on the radio 1 at number 1, i wonder what is the percentage similarity of the top 100

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

v impressed by Harvell illustrations

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

that medium is fuckin' impossible

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was just about to post that. I esp. love the Gnarls one. (xpost)

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Reminds me of the godlike "album covers in MSPaint" thread

― f. scott baio (nate_patrin), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

glad matos shouted out rough guide to west african gold. i love that record so much

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also the b-ball Hold Steady was great but might've been even better as the Mpls. Lakers since Craig looks like some kinda mini-Mikan

― f. scott baio (nate_patrin), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Matos, would be willing to post some of the demographic-oriented lists (i.e., age/region/outlet, etc.) beyond what you've already summarized in your essay?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

they're going up soon

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

That best list looks really awful in Explorer (lots of dead space at the top). (Sorry haven't actually gotten to reading the list yet.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

the drawings had their genesis, in a roundabout way, for an illo i did (which wasn't actually supposed to be used, just me jerking around) for when idolator first launched (note i didnt even know what it was called then):

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9270/gawkerio8.jpg

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

a tribute to the old ilm floating-gareth-head-of-death meme and the birthplace of the smiley faced sun.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I clicked on my ballot and it was blank. Oh, well, I didn't vote for anything Top 20 anyway, I don't think. Maybe next year.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

that's going to be great when the demo breakdowns go up. It will make it much easier to line all the hip hop hatas up against the wall.

― don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

even now, four months on, that illustration fills me with untold amounts of glee

― maura (maura), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

harvell, those pictures are AMAZING. thanks for making my day.

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

even in the face of apocalypse and terror, the sun always smiles in jess harvell's world

― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

love will bring us together

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Friday, 5 January 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Killer Mike lost to Jay-Z on the albums chart :-/

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

i think i like Timbo in his little jim jams and hat the best.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 5 January 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

couldn't even find my ballot. lolz.

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps because you DIDN'T PUT YOUR REAL NAME ON IT?

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

nope i did. right at the top actually. thanks though.

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

well, I saw your ballot earlier (and Phil Freeman's), so what's probably happening is that they're redoing that page with voters' real names (whole lotta pseudonyms were used that we've since corrected). check again later.

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

That one thing where that one guy did that big chart thingy so you saw which other voters your ballot was most similar to, there will be one: confirm/deny?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://ilx.thehold.net/thread.php?msgid=12938#unread

The ILX sandbox thread of 2006 lists for comparison.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Steve for repping for Michael Start!

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

nice work matos--i like the ability to sort by demographic and the albums that had the most concentrated votes. i was worried that the gawker connection would make it hyper-snarky, but it's really well organized. and, well, it feels good to stick it to the new times man...

― marcg (marcg), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm impressed by how quickly this was pulled together. (I mean, it's well done either way, but that just adds to it.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to also say great job, Matos et al!

The illos *are* awesome, enjoyed the essays, and it was swell to not have to wait two months to see results.

Not sure if I agree that 2006 was a dreadful year for music, but I myself was more lost in music from 50-80 years ago than ever, so I can't pretend to've been paying enough attention in the first place. The list itself was kind of a bore, though, which perhaps helps to back that up...

I would like to be able to click on a title and see who-all voted for it, and a round-up of choice quotes would be nice. (Though I think before I wrote my comments I drank Curmudgeon Juice so I'm glad it's not so easy to read those.)

Ohh, and I just realized I misspelled an artist's name! Gahhhh.

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Friday, 5 January 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

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and here come the ninja turtles

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Start the ILE thread on that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Michaelangelo's ganj-addled voice makes for a a v. unconvincing just-say-no message

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

A brilliant display of the random, scattershot splendor ILM sometimes has to offer when everyone’s so tense they turn punchdrunk

If you like this you should check out the noize boxcar.

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 9 February 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking hell, now everybody's going to invite me to go salsa dancing with them.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

ok i missed totally the thread derailing so apropros of nothing the print version of p&j also had pretty much the worst jump i've ever seen. going from one page of a spread to the next there was first a jump from ANOTHER essay, and then the continued essay from the prior page of the spread. I'm pretty sure this was never a standard voice design element before the takeover? i've never even see the post do something quite so awful although they seem to use auto-justification without proofreading to awfully ill effect at least twice a week.

rh's essay just made me feel sad btw.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

Michaelangelo's ganj-addled voice makes for a a v. unconvincing just-say-no message

He is a party dude
This is not canon

― rock and roll for the rock and roll soul (nate_patrin), Saturday, 10 February 2007 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

it is

― Pylon Gnasher, Monday, 4 August 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

You love it.
Also, Sterling, love your little "for those of us who remember Ott's Pitchfork is STEALIN ALL UR AD CLICKTHRUS" comment.
Was I wrong about that? No, I wasn't - I'm never wrong. Idolator will not exist in 2009. Book it.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, February 9, 2007 8:28 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

heavens! i book it now!

― soyrizo headache (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:00 (seventeen years ago)

wait, the site still exists!

wtf ott

― soyrizo headache (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:01 (seventeen years ago)

lol, i'm glad you came back to point this out.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

BOOK IT

― soyrizo headache (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:11 (seventeen years ago)

I've just been informed that I and all other Idolator writers have turned into pumpkins in the past hour.

― some dude, Thursday, 1 January 2009 05:44 (seventeen years ago)

BOOK IT

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 1 January 2009 06:10 (seventeen years ago)

ottenfreude

― 909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 1 January 2009 06:36 (seventeen years ago)

Idolator=Zune

― M.V., Thursday, 1 January 2009 07:39 (seventeen years ago)

Who's zoomin' zune

― van smack, Thursday, 1 January 2009 09:04 (seventeen years ago)

Is it just me or has there been pretty much no Pazz and Jop talk on ILM this year?

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 January 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

miss jackin pop

― BIG HOOS is not a nacho purist fwiw (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 1 January 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

This is a nice way to start the year.

― Dr. Perpetua, Thursday, 1 January 2009 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

You should change your name to Dr. Peppertura.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 January 2009 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

Or Peppertua.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 January 2009 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

eleven years pass...

So why did Jackin' Pop stop after two polls? I remember when the 2007 poll came out (with a webpage design that shamed the Voice's P&J at the time), it seemed like it could potentially usurp P&J, but a third poll never came to be.

― birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 09:56 (five years ago)

I recall Matos said once that it was an absolutely monstrous pain in the ass to do.

― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 11:52 (five years ago)

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