The Cure: Classic or Dud?

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Oddly enough, I've never really sought out their albums; I'm sure I'll get around to it, but I'm pretty sure they'll always be available... Pretty much all of their singles, though, are flat-out amazing - how could they not be classic?

Clarke B., Thursday, 3 October 2002 04:37 (twenty-three years ago)

The albums are SO WORTH IT, Clarke.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 October 2002 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Quite.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 October 2002 23:38 (twenty-three years ago)

hmmmmmmm .............
dud

donna (donna), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm exactly like Clarke. Always loved what I heard, but only own 'Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me'... Last year I told a friend of mine that the reason for this is because I pretty much know that I'll like them and am just 'saving it'. Is this like some weird Cure phenomena?

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I LOVE THE CURE. They fill a niche that no other band does. From the acutely depresso Pornography stuff to the silly dance stuff to the haunting gothy Faith stuff to the blatant sunshine pop... they've done all this convincingly and well. Did they invent the drugged up goofy romantic miserable goth ecstatic giddy thing?

Yet I do wonder how much my own nosatlgia plays a role. I still think Wish is great, despite every. review. ever. written. Maybe if I hadn't listened to it for the 1st time as a teenager travelling thru Europe with schoomates I'd think differently.

Aaron A., Friday, 4 October 2002 03:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Where to start, Ned and Dan? I'm thinking _Pornography_, but some of their _Disintegration_-era stuff kills me (esp. "Lovesong").

Also, I really really like the Wolfgang Press song on _Lonely is an Eyesore_, but I've heard their recordings are pretty patchy. Any recommendations there?

Clarke B., Friday, 4 October 2002 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

In your place I'd start with 17 Seconds, Clarke. It has their greatest song on it, "A Forest" and I find it the darkest and most powerful of their records. A lot of their stuff didn't age too well (even Disintegration), but this record definitely stood the test of time.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 4 October 2002 07:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't go for _Pornography_ first; I think I'd get _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ and the cassette version of _Standing On A Beach_ in order to get the b-sides.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 October 2002 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic until "Stranding on a Beach" came out, after which they descended into the depths of self-parody.

TMFTML (TMFTML), Friday, 4 October 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I kinda saved them also, Kim - owned the two singles compilations for years before actually buying my first proper album (Disintegration) just this year. Though I do like it, it hasn't swayed me into snatching up the others yet. Maybe in another four years I'll get another one.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 4 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

They fill(ed?) a niche no one else did (which I usually characterize as "Harlequin romance rock") and they did a perfectly accomplished and unique job of it most of the time but it's not one I care to listen to much at all. I can play Pornography maybe a couple times per year and it's sometimes nice to hear the singles on the radio but overall there's not a big connection. And I couldn't imagine sitting through a whole album of stuff like "In Between Days" or "Let's Go to Bed". The singles comp (Staring At the Sea?) is probably as much as I'd need of that. I'd buy Disintegration if I thought I'd ever listen to it. Wish and Wild Mood Swings were awful.

sundar subramanian, Friday, 4 October 2002 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I honestly cannot comprehend how _Wish_ is AWFUL.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 October 2002 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

the cure were/are one of the best bands for dancing to whilst only wearing underwear...hopefully not by yourself...

g (graysonlane), Friday, 4 October 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, I'm a liar. I totally forgot that I also had 'Standing on a Beach' on cassette - played it to death. I don't have it anymore though. I think my brother "borrowed" it and never gave it back! Ooooh...that little...

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I like just like heaven, I'm going to get Kiss me times 3.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

classic classic classic and why should you not dance to the cure in underwear by yourself! unless you are wearing the underwear out to the goth dance club, of course.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you ever been to a goth dance club? Underwear as outerwear is pretty much de rigeur.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Clarke, start with Disintegration first, and then try Seventeen Seconds and then Pornography. I've argued elsethread about this already so I won't go into the details here...just click the link, cause there's a lot of other good talk there anyhow.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretend that there's a smiley at the end of my last post. I sound like a meanie otherwise.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 4 October 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

ten months pass...
"And yet Robert Smith - the Chatterton of Crawley - had created if not a wall of sound then a very high hedge of sound, over which he seemed to peer at the world like a boy who couldn't be bothered to ask for his ball back."

the "cure=suburbia" part of Michael Bracewell's England Is Mine is one of the best things ever!

etc, Wednesday, 20 August 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Join the Dots" (B Sides and rarities) is out on October 21st. I presume it'll have the much talked about Cassette b sides from Standing on a Beach on it, but does anyone know that actual tracklisting is?

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Hopefully it'll have the stuff off "curiosity", too. And that soundtrack they did.

Classic, BTW. Again, my mid-teens coincided with Disintegration and I was full-on obsessed for a couple of years. I bought a shedload of albums at Oxfam last year, and a friend and I drove our GF/wives insane by listening, back to back, to 17 Seconds, Faith, Pornography and the Top. Divorce was on the horizon by the end of that evening.

Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Hopefully it'll have the stuff off "curiosity", too. And that soundtrack they did.

Thing is, there are SO many B-sides and rarities which have officially surfaced that they'd have to put out a box set. As it is, if the remasters that are surfacing next year are going to include bonus discs for each with room for other oddities, then that will partially settle the problem.

Thy Lethal Zen Ned (Ned), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

This news makes me very, very happy.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

won't come out on Oct. 21st though. That info was wrong

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

When is it out then?

flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

No official release date..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I kind of like the guitars in "Pictures of You".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Recently listened to Dark Side of the Moon and then Disintegration back to back. Confirmed what I already knew.
Fuck the Canon and the Keepers it rode in on. The Cure > Pink Floyd.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Just adding to the calls of "Classic" (up to, and including, Wish, that is).

David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
Shall I expound at great length here about The Cure's gig at the Barfly last night? Or does it warrant its own thread?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 6 March 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

either way, spill!

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. Now please. Or else.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Giz it.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't want to make The Raggett angry.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm trying to envision whether turning into a green Lou Ferrigno is merely a lateral move.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty much.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah well, the downsides.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 March 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, too busy right now, but will gush like a geyser tomorrow. In the meantime, drooooool over the setlist...

Shake Dog Shake
Fascination Street
A Strange Day
A Night Like This
Lovesong
Push
Sinking
Pictures Of You
Lullaby
Lovecats
Maybe Someday
In Your House
From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea
M
Charlotte Sometimes
Inbetween Days
Just Like Heaven
Hey You!!!
Play For Today
A Forest

Fire In Cairo (as a 3 piece)
Grinding Halt (as a 3 piece)
10.15 Saturday Night
Boys Don't Cry
I Dig You (with Porl Thompson and Frank The Postman)
I'm A Cult Hero (with Porl Thompson and Frank The Postman),
Close To Me
Let's Go To Bed
Why Can't I Be You
Friday I'm In Love

Fucking hell, just reading that through sends me into space. I'm still shellshocked.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

WAH! *whimpers and hopes for bootleg...somewhere...ANYWHERE*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

THEY DID CULT HERO MATERIAL???????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

With Porl and Frank no less. And was not Charlie saying some months back about how the band has fallen off recently? UNDESERVING INFIDEL! But I will not bear a grudge. Yet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Fire In Cairo (as a 3 piece)
Grinding Halt (as a 3 piece)

Genius.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

porl!

!!!!!!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 7 March 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Porl, remarkably, is now jobbing as the band's guitar tech!

And yes, Frank the postman showed up in all his voluminous glory, the first time they've done any Cult Hero material in (10 years according to Robert).

And was not Charlie saying some months back about how the band has fallen off recently? UNDESERVING INFIDEL! But I will not bear a grudge. Yet.

And I maintain my viewpoint, no doubt. Friday's only iffy moment came 11 songs in, when some (relatively) unfamiliar chords struck up - "What is this," I thought to myself with a grimace, "Joan Osborne's 'One Of Us'?" But no, it was in fact "Maybe Someday".

The Cure should've stopped recording new music after Wish (or more specifically, if you like, after "Fear Of Ghosts"). I love them still, but I shall not be moved on this matter.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgive you. Since you're going to help me find someone who recorded the show OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE...

Porl, remarkably, is now jobbing as the band's guitar tech!

Wait, what? So essentially he and Perry B. have completed the circle.

Anyway. First batch of reissues in a month. EXCITED!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Perry's brother is their manager.

I am naturally using all my spider-senses to procure a mixing desk feed of the show. I'll be absolutely amazed if nobody recorded it, but nothing yet. Ned, you will be the f...oooh, among the first to know when I find it!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Perry's brother is their manager.

That I had heard, seems to make sense! They and Depeche should just finally tour together. ;-)

In all seriousness, thanks for any leads you might have!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Where's a good place to go to get the skinny on the order and track listing of the reissues? I just got Join the Dots and I'm liking it a lot. It's time.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(that was a surprise 45 *minute* set btw)

StanM, Sunday, 7 June 2026 17:05 (four days ago)

Tonight's show in Portugal's North Festival will ALSO be live streamed, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga7tHeD-96I

StanM, Sunday, 7 June 2026 17:32 (four days ago)

(starts about 4 hours from now)

StanM, Sunday, 7 June 2026 17:35 (four days ago)

Thanks

curmudgeon, Sunday, 7 June 2026 22:54 (four days ago)

They played both "Treasure" and "Want," nice

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 June 2026 23:08 (four days ago)

gonna have to look for this one after the fact as well

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 7 June 2026 23:09 (four days ago)

I've never seen the CURE in concert. I know they came to Milwaukee in the mid 90s, but I was probably in the alley with a 40 and a joint wasting time with Beck and WEEN. This has been a treat. Have they always sounded this good in the 2000s? I love hearing the older material. Songs from 17 Seconds sounded great. Would love to hear "six different ways" or "a few hours after this"

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 8 June 2026 00:21 (three days ago)

watching that first one it felt like they had a bit of a spring in their step tempo-wise - like the songs were a click or two more sprightly than in recent years - but maybe just a mix thing or some weird subjectivity going on

I will have to look at that 17 seconds set from the 2nd show, play for today always feels like it drags in the modern era (also In Your House a top 5 cure song for me)

I too think they are sounding great but also despite having an opportunity to go and see them in August, I think I'll pass - two songs from the new LP is a little less than I'd like, and while a brilliant festival set the rest of the selections are pretty familiar, I sort of know that I would be a little bored (totally on account of having seen the Cure too many times and no shade at all on their performance or vigour)

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 8 June 2026 01:42 (three days ago)

it felt like they had a bit of a spring in their step tempo-wise - like the songs were a click or two more sprightly than in recent years

they played High very very fast

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 8 June 2026 02:43 (three days ago)

xp - it saddens me to say that as much as I love this band, I can't help but zone out when watching them play these days. I guess there is really a finite number one can really *feel * songs. Got more goosebumps from that Olivia Rodrigo duet - loved that.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 June 2026 09:23 (three days ago)

can't help but zone out when watching them play these days. I guess there is really a finite number one can really *feel * songs

if it helps give perspective:

in 1992 I could have gone on the first night, but having queued for 14 hours, it sold out, and when they added another four (4)* shows, I couldn’t go bcz of exams

*and as you’ll clearly remember, it had taken a campaign of several months’ physical mailed petitions to get the band to tour the continent at all

in 2000 I waited until the first show sold out, and they added two more, and got floor tix, but they were touring Bloodflowers, so

in 2011 I entered the lottery and got tix for one of the two nights (total of 3000 tix, took a paper millionaire friend, fifteen years later am slightly more likely to commit suicide due to poverty than ever see said friend again), went for a piss at intermission and saw ppl who’d gotten off the plane from South America and come directly to venue with backpacks on, asking if they could get in - -
and I was leaning against the door during the third encore, holding for the last chord bcz I’d bought tix to Odd Future’s only tour ever the same night, months before Bob committed

in 2024 I got tickets behind / above the stage day-of bcz of sad dad cancellations

so if you rly feel bad feel free to to buy me.a ticket, I promise to text 2-3x an hour saying shit rips

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Monday, 8 June 2026 10:21 (three days ago)

OR SUCKS

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Monday, 8 June 2026 10:24 (three days ago)

I’ll be honest

uploading this content requires perseveration (sic), Monday, 8 June 2026 10:25 (three days ago)

soooo jason has inserted a little skip beat a’la Paris Boris into In Your House and it is no good, this was the only uncool thing Boris Williams ever did behind the kit and it is pure madness to copy it

also play for today still sounds a little bit ploddy

BUT this is shithead nerd-only discourse, they are still beautiful and i love them

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 8 June 2026 10:45 (three days ago)

on BBC 6 Music between now and 7.30pm Robert Smith is being interviewed.

You can catch up later on BBC Sounds.

djmartian, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:09 (three days ago)

and at 7.30pm to 8pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002xtxb

Highlights from The Cure at Primavera Sound 2026.

djmartian, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:20 (three days ago)

Chat with Robert Smith at Primavera 2026
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002x7bk
This episode will be available soon

djmartian, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:37 (three days ago)

Get ready for New Music

🚨 New Cure album update!

Robert Smith has confirmed in a new BBC Radio 6 interview that the next The Cure album is finished and ready to be delivered. He also hinted that a third album is still part of the plan.

After years of waiting for Songs of a Lost World, it looks like… pic.twitter.com/7QEGodT60C

— The Fanbase files (@dror_nahum) June 8, 2026

djmartian, Monday, 8 June 2026 18:54 (three days ago)

Yeah, not gonna fall for that just quite yet…

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 June 2026 18:59 (three days ago)

In Bob we trust.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 8 June 2026 19:41 (three days ago)

him saying it's ready for release is a little different than saying it's almost done, no?

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 8 June 2026 19:53 (three days ago)

I think he was saying the next record was already recorded back when SOALW came outside

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 8 June 2026 20:35 (three days ago)

'about to be delivered to universal' at least gives me some room for optimism that it might actually be happening

and yeah he'd previously talked about how they'd recorded two albums worth of material during the songs of a lost world sessions

ufo, Monday, 8 June 2026 21:11 (three days ago)

the fact that the last album was received with love instead of indifference might change the equation a bit

Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Monday, 8 June 2026 21:32 (three days ago)


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