best/worst rock biographies

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Karlen cast Lee R as a cartoon-character pretentious NY'er and implied he didn't know wtf he was doing in a recording studio. I think he must've pissed off the author w/ some parochial comments about Minneapolis or something. a jarring note in an otherwise balanced book. maybe karlen felt like he needed a bad guy.
sounded to me like BinT needed a control-freak producer!

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't read many rock biographies, but the best I've read is Mick Farren's Give The Anarchist A Cigarette and the worst (well, worst-written anyway) is Johnny Rogan's Morrissey & Marr : A Severed Alliance.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 5 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

is there any good Bio on David Bowie?

mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

'Strange Fascination' was pretty good.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Sanchez's "Up and Down with the Rolling Stones" is both highly amusing and tragic. The book offers zero insight into the music or creative process, but instead you get endless insider tales of debauchery and downfall, focusing mainly on Brian Jones, Keith Richard, Anita Pallenberg, and Marianne Faithfull. I think Keith once called it a "fiction" (and said he laughed his ass off reading it), but Sanchez was there for all of this, and what he has to say rings true. I picked it up for $2 used, and it's well worth seeking out.

James Young's Nico book -- how many different titles has this book been published under? -- variously known as "The End" and "The Last of the Bohemians" -- is yet another tragically hysterical firsthand account.

Ingeborg Schober's Amon Düül II bio, "Tanz der Lemminge" is really underrated. Nice interviews, some incredible anecdotes, and she wonderfully evokes all the socio-political goings-on of late 60s/early 70s West Germany. You'll have to know German in order to read this one, as it's never been translated into English, as far as I know. (I could be wrong.)

Worst bio? The Jim DeRogatis Lester Bangs book is fucking terrible. (Like anything else you'd expect from the pen of Jim DeRo.) Richard Meltzer's chapter on Bangs in "A Whore Just Like the Rest" is far more insightful, more cutting, more affectionate even.

I find the John Szwed Sun Ra bio to be tedious and boringly pedantic. Of course this is what you expect from an uptight academic. There's no humour in the writing whatsoever. Sure, there is a lot of useful info and all that, but Szwed embarrasses himself badly when he reveals himself to know fuck all about rock music. (He calls Can a "space rock" band inspired by the Arkestra. Huh?! Amon Düül II, whom he also laughingly calls "space rock", well, Szwed spells it Amon Dul, etc., etc.)

Just about everything by Diedrich Diedrichson (has any of his writing ever been translated into English?) is always good for something. Sometimes unintentionally funny, though.

Maybe this next one is both the best and the worst. A few years ago I picked up this amazing artifact for nothing at a flea market. It's a thick American magazine titled "John Lennon: 1940-1980", one of the many (certainly) quickie-cash-in "tributes" which immediately followed in the wake of Lennon's death. (This one is dated December 1980; these ghouls wasted NO time getting this piece of crap out on the shelves.) It has the absolute WORST writing I've ever read in my life. I keep it for this reason alone. It's full of mawkish, badly written smug remembrances by aging ex-hippies on the brink of yuppiedom, writing things like "I didn't listen to my beloved Beatles for a six-month period after Lennon said he was more popular than Jesus", and "'Strawberry Fields' sounded too weird to me at first. The Beatles had outdistanced us, thanks to a certain sweet smelling herb, but we caught up." Add badly reproduced color photos, more typos than you can shake a stick at, and we're talking CLASSIC.

kjoerup, Monday, 6 September 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The Jam: Our Story (Foxton/Buckler/Ogg) was just awful.

the todster (the todster), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure it counts, but I still find "The Dark Stuff" by Nick Kent pretty amusing.

Hell yes.

On the unintentional comedy scale, Angie Bowie's first(?) book is right up there.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Best - Mark manning's account of Zodiac Mindwarp. "Fucked By Rock."

maria b (maria b), Monday, 6 September 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I find the John Szwed Sun Ra bio to be tedious and boringly pedantic.

Shakey knowledge of krautrock aside, I really dug the biography - I didn't find it too tedious, and it was certainly packed with information.

djdee2005, Monday, 6 September 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

As I said, the Szwed book is a thorough account with a ton of info - very useful and intersting to learn these things. I appreciate that. Szwed's style is very dry, though. That's just my own tastes speaking. I prefer to see some fire, some personality interjected into the writing. (THAT is what makes Tosches' Jerry Lee Lewis and Dean Martin bios so great, I think.)

But it's not just krautrock -- Szwed falters horribly whenever he attempts to say anything about Ra's influence on rock. John Szwed obviously knows nothing about the subject. I wouldn't attempt to write anything about, say, jazz from 1920-1950 or C&W from any era, because I am confident that I really wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

kjoerup, Monday, 6 September 2004 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for Lexicon Devil, with special mention to the dubious and eye-watering nude picture of some terrifyingly well hung 14-year-old LA scene kid/rent boy that turns up halfway through

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure if it counts but Danny Sugarman's Wonderland Avenue is brilliant, and made me realise two things: Jim Morrison wasn't a total knob and Iggy Pop is pretty much as fucked up as I'd always guessed he was.

oats (oats), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

'The Wreckers Of Civilisation' and 'England's Hidden Reverse' have both had threads of their own, I think, but are great.

I'd actually give a decent shout to the Billy Bragg one, 'Still Suitable For Miners'. It's a bit too "he's a good bloke", but readable with it.

I think the Tony Bennett one that was bought for me several years is one of the worst I've read, although I've got a Bauhaus one (Dark Entries?) which is so fawning it's incredible.

Is there a decent Scott Walker one? I've only got 'A Deep Shade Of Blue', and feel there must be a better book about Scott out there.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 6 September 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'But it's not just krautrock -- Szwed falters horribly whenever he attempts to say anything about Ra's influence on rock. John Szwed obviously knows nothing about the subject. I wouldn't attempt to write anything about, say, jazz from 1920-1950 or C&W from any era, because I am confident that I really wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about.'

I can't recall him saying that much about rock music when I read it but he's really gd on jazz and relating it to developments in classical avant-garde.

I can see what you mean in respect to the dryness of the writing but the whole thing is so well researched -- he interviews as many associates/musicians as he can, and the story is so damn great and the guy is so fascinating that I found it a real quick and enjoyable read.

But anyway: what was ra's 'influence' on rock? I mean, maybe leading by an example -- as in setting up this commune of ppl to work together on improvisations and group sound; which, as far as i can tell, wz only adopted by some ppl in krautrock and maybe beefheart (but that could also be relaetd to a 60s countercultural mindset). Even his work as a whole is odd in relation to jazz too, i find.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe going into it with lowered expectations helped, but I was surprised how much I enjoyed "I'm With the Band" by Pamela des Barres.

Also, Miles Davis' autobiography is an entertaining and enlightening read. To give a little of the flavor of the book, I always think of a photo caption that read (quoting from memory) "This was our line-up at Birdland in 1949. Standing at left is Symphony Sid, another motherfucker I never could stand."

How's "Hip Priest", by the way?

sorry xpost, back to sun ra's influence on rock

Dr Benway (dr benway), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(uh, before I cite "Space Is The Place" like everyone else, Id just like to point out that the thread asked for ROCK bios. So there.)

Best (individual) - Chuck Berry: The Autobiography
Best (group) - Hammer Of The Gods: The Led Zeppelin Story (Steven Davis)

Worst - No One Here Gets Out Alive (Jerry Hopkins)

Hopkins' David Bowie & Jimi Hendrix biographies were just as poorly written as his Jim Morrison bio was, but at least those two were fairly compelling subjects, so the books retained some inherent interest. Never read his Elvis bio, and certainly don't intend to.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 6 September 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

it should be noted that danny "most embarrassing ex-groupie on earth" sugerman also had a hand in "no one here gets out alive."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 6 September 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone asked about Rolling Stones books...the best one I think is STP (Stones Touring Party) by Robert Greenfield, an account of their 1972 tour. Fantastic book.

I liked Shakey for the original interviews with Neil Young, but had a major problem with the author inserting himself into the narrative. It seemed to me that he wanted to sniff Neil Young's armpits and then tell him why they stank.

I call it biographer's disease (it has some resemblance to executor's disease, but that's another thread): thinking you're a genius because you're writing a book about one.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Best = The 2 Julian Cope ones, the Banshees one. The cope ones are fantastically entertaining, the banshees one (mark paytress IIRC?) is really nicely written, and is enthusiastic w/o being fannish.

Worst = the lemmy one. A terrible dissapointment. Just crass and stupid and boring.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Not a "rock bio," but I'll always cite PLEASE KILL ME by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain was being wildly entertaining.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone read the everett true book on the white stripes?

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

1) There's an Everett True book on the White Stripes?
2) Why am I not surprised?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it was reviewed in this month's mojo. got a very good review, actually. the reviewer seemed to love anything true has ever typed.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, Miles Davis' co-author Quincy Trouple plagarized significant portions of the autobiography from a biography called Milestones, and the book was more or less assembled by a team of editorial assistants at the publishers office. Davis' involvement with the 'writing' of it was minimal, as is often the case with co-authored books by celebrities...but it's still a great read, I agree.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 6 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ribowsky's Spector bio is good, I think. Tosches on JL Lewis, ditto. Timothy White's Beach Boys book is very well done.

Fong-Torres on Gram Parsons is pretty awful. Bobbie Ann Mason on Elvis isn't too good, and Guralnick on Elvis just makes the whole thing boring.

I still like David Henderson's old Hendrix bio, too.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hip Priest is OK but understandably thin on anything but quotes from music magazines and disgruntled ex-Fall types. Ends up being a bit dry and historical. Reading the Mick Middles/MES one which is better and has some good Smith passages, and an entertaining bit interviewing his mom.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 6 September 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It must be said that The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell is funny as a motherfucker.
I don't even listen to Marilyn Manson but I've read that book twice.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 6 September 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that manson autobiography was way more entertaining than it had any right to be.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Creation Records Story - My Magpie Eyes are Hungry for the Prize David kavanagh is the best music biog if it counts as a biog (although Englands Dreaming is pretty good in the same subgenre of pop history)

Revolution in the Head (Ian macdonald) awesome for the song detail if you are a beatles nut.

and for fun Fargo Rock city (biog of a mid west usa teenage metal freak and perfect summation of the hair metal years)

dunc, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Worst rock biography, but possibly most entertaining read: Three Dog Nightmare by Chuck Negron.

mike a, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Ray Charles' autobiography "Brother Ray" is a freakin' hoot. Lots about pussy, orgies, drugs. It's surprisingly vulgar!

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Comrade Rockstar" which I found in a charity shop today, looks interesting. It's about a 60's American Singer called Dean Reed who ended up becoming a huge star in the Eastern Bloc before drowning in an East Berlin Lake in 1986 in dubious circumstances.

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

the Manson book is good (well I think it's only "okay" but) because it's written by Neil Strauss, just warming up to write The Dirt

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Lydon's book on Ray is also a great read. For Stones books, I dig Greenfield and adore Stanley Booth's 'True Adventures.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

S. Booth's True Adventures is far and away the best Stones book; nothing else comes close.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Is there a newer thread I'm missing? I read these three while on vacation and recommend them all:

Patti Smith - Just Kids (2010)
Nick Kent - Apathy For The Devil: A Seventies Memoir (2010)
Andrew Earles - Husker Du: The Story of the Noise-Pop Pioneers Who Launched Modern Rock (2010)

Just finished slogging through Peter Doggett's There's A Riot Going On: Revolutionaries, Rock Stars, and the Rise and Fall of the '60s (2009), which was pretty much a depressing chore. My wife wants me to read the Tina Fey book. In the meantime, what's good from this list? Apparently the Ambrose book on Iggy is crap, but the Trynka book isn't available on Kindle. Hrm.

Jah Wobble - Memoirs Of A Geezer (2009)
Zoe Street Howe - Typical Girls? The Story Of The Slits (2009)
Tony Visconti - The Autobiography: Bowie, Bolan and the Brooklyn Boy (2007)
Paul Trynka - Iggy Pop: Open Up And Bleed (2007)
Joe Ambrose - Gimme Danger: The Story Of Iggy Pop (2009)
Keith Richards/James Fox - Life (2010)
Andrew Loog Oldham - Stoned (2000)
Cherry Vanilla - Lick Me: How I Became Cherry Vanilla (2010)
Legs McNeil - Cheetah Chrome: A Dead Boy's Tale (2010)
Rick Wakeman - Grumpy Old Star (2009)
Rick Wakeman - Further Adventures Of A Grumpy Old Star (2010)
George Berger - The Story Of Crass (2009)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 04:59 (fifteen years ago)

I guess no response cuz I didn't list these?

Sammy Hagar - Red: My Uncensored Life in Rock (2011)
Steven Tyler - Does the Noise in My Head Bother You?: A Rock 'n' Roll Memoir (2011)
Nikki Sixx - This Is Gonna Hurt: Music, Photography and Life Through the Distorted Lens of Nikki Sixx (2011)
Vince Neil & Mike Sager - Tattoos & Tequila: To Hell and Back with One of Rock's Most Notorious Frontmen (2010)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

Dean Wareham's memoir is pretty good.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

WORST: anything on the Grateful Dead. I'm actually a recent convert to their music, but the hero worship they inspire is pitiful.

As a recent convert myself, while I assume nothing objective has been published about them, is there anything at least not-cringeworthy?

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

The Keith Richards one starts out interesting, but quickly degenerates into, "and then I passed out here, and then I passed out here, etc." I read it back to back with an Iggy bio (not sure it's the one listed above) and it was kind of weird to see two people basically writing the same book except that one is passing out on a yaht in the Mediterranean and one is passing out in someone's living room.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

the last third of Life is pretty bad -- a lot of "i own property in connecticut, i hate mick jagger, i'm an old rich guy" kind of stuff. but there's enough in the 60s-70s to make it worthwhile.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, and The Fallen about all the ex-members of The Fall is pretty good in a few places, but really should have been a blog as there's not enough meat to make a full book...

dlp9001, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

Dylan's Chronicles

Brad C., Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Ribowsky's Spector bio is good, I think.

i read this years ago -- really excellent. there's a newer bio of spector that i think got good reviews, too.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

I have the Ribowsky bio, it's great

metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Just finished the latest Led Zep bio--it's excellent, especially if all you knew before was Hammer of the Gods

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 00:22 (fifteen years ago)

The Richards one hits his nadir when he goes off on the guy who stole his shepard's pie ingredients late in the book. I can't imagine why you would want the world knowing you are that much of a fool.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:42 (fifteen years ago)

hits "its" nadir

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

David Keenan's England's Hidden Reverse is wonderful, as is Simon Ford's Wreckers of Civilization. Not sure if those count as biographies exactly though.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

I read Hagar's book. I thought it was really entertaining. Don't expect Shakespeare.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

I started reading the Zeppelin one today. Every time I come across the name "Mickie Most" I want to throw that shit out the window.

how's life, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:05 (fourteen years ago)

Just finished one that's so boring (reviewed under embargo so can't name it) that it makes me wonder if I ever want to read a single-artist bio, as opposed to a memoir, again.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:53 (fourteen years ago)

Smoothed: The Epic of Rob Thomas

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

Puttin' On Duritz: The Counting Crows Story

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

Okay I can't top that.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

Just recently read Buddy Guy's forthcoming When I Left Home which contains a lot of interesting stories - unfortunately, it's written in Negro dialect. I'm not joking. Half the time it reads like a transcript of an old Amos 'n' Andy routine.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

kudos tyler. That's killer.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

haha, i feel like i stole it from someone, so kudos to that person I've forgotten.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Duff McKagan's memoir on G'N'R is pretty great!

Poliopolice, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

eight years pass...

RIP Johnny Rogan

I've never read any of his books, but he's contributed quite a bit to a lot of reissues I still own. Given the nature of those contributions, I get the impression he's one of the best researchers in rock history, performing the grueling, unsung work of compiling complete and accurate sessionographies and discographies while detailing every bit of minutiae that separates one mix or take from another as well as finding out why said recording was left in the vault.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:49 (five years ago)

Obituary, the Smiths anecdote is a bit surreal - I guess court proceedings for Joyce's lawsuit was open to the public.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:58 (five years ago)

I finished the first volume of the Byrds one a year or two ago. It’s a great work for reference for the reasons you give—it even covers bootlegs—but it was so exhausting in its detail that I won’t ever read it again; I’ll just dip into it when I need to check something or want to read about the period whatever LP I’m spinning came out in. Hard to believe he wrote another huge book on the solo members! I admire it a hell of a lot even if I have little desire to read pages and pages about Firefall or what various members did in the 1980s.

blatherskite, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:01 (five years ago)

His Ray Davies biography from a few years ago is good, but he gets hung up on certain things - he keeps mentioning (in a smarmy way) how miserly Ray is, because he doesn't buy rounds at the pub or something.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:12 (five years ago)

Oh, and the opening post in this thread is correct - Bebe Buell's book is the worst I've ever made myself finish. It was, however, useful as a compendium of the insulting names that Elvis Costello had for Prince.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:13 (five years ago)

!

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:15 (five years ago)

His Ray Davies biography from a few years ago is good, but he gets hung up on certain things - he keeps mentioning (in a smarmy way) how miserly Ray is, because he doesn't buy rounds at the pub or something.

I once worked with a guy who was in a band with one of Ray Davies' daughters and I know for a fact that that is true!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:17 (five years ago)

I'm sure it's true, is it worth mentioning over and over in a biography? (I don't go to pubs.)

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:18 (five years ago)

Not specifically the buying rounds in pubs bit but just him generally being a comically tight-fisted millionaire.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:25 (five years ago)

Hard to believe he wrote another huge book on the solo members!

it's only on the members who've died!

visiting, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:31 (five years ago)

Now that he's dead, Rogan will write biographies of the living members of the Byrds.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 21:33 (five years ago)

Not specifically the buying rounds in pubs bit but just him generally being a comically tight-fisted millionaire.

That's more funny when I think about the time he ran after that mugger who robbed his girlfriend - it always struck me as an impressively chivalrous act, but one can joke that he was after a tenner she owed him.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 22:26 (five years ago)

Good dot-connecting!

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:38 (five years ago)

I'm pretty sure Rogan underlines that connection in his book!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 22:45 (five years ago)

Ha, yes, just found that section.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:55 (five years ago)


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