Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

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Oh man, I've gotta third the props for the drums on "Hollywood Nights". Bravura performance.

Also, I got the chords wrong up there; I was trying to do it from memory. I had the I-IV-V in the wrong key; it's actually G-F-C. Same chords as "Sister Ray". Of course.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 23 May 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

medley!

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't mind mellencamp in small doses. but that's another topic.i'm not a big seger fan (i started a "defend the indefensible" about him a year ago, remember?). but i do like this song -- especially the slow part towards the end, where segar "wakes up to the sound of thunder," starts humming a "song from 1962," remembers the backseat romance of this song, and (as if to not dwell too long on it) notes that autumn is closing in. for some reason, it seems to sum up memories of that sorta thing pretty well esp. as one grows older -- think about it a while, then move on. and yeah, the music arrangement is pretty nice.

This just occured to me (your sentence about autumn closing in)

HUSKER DU'S CELEBRATED SUMMER = HOLLYWOOD NIGHTS OF 80S PUNK!!!!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...
We waited on the thundah.....WE WAITED ON THE THUNDAH!!!!!!!

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I must confess that I love this song in the corniest corner of my heart. "I used her, she used me, but neither one cared." So very true to my memory of youthful sex.

Then that backward-looking section at the end is just knife-twistingly real: it's clear that he has romantic feelings about the past, while at the same time acknowledging how unromantic the coupling was.

Because nostalgia often has little to do with the quality of the experiences, and a lot to do with our own shifts in feeling about ourselves. This is actually a pretty feckin wise point, and one that I don't think was ever made in song before "Night Moves."

I have similar love for "Main Street." Not "Hollywood Nights," though, for some reason. Too frenetic, with its fast tempo and hooting backup singers.

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Against The Wind

...which is basically an "it's tough to be a rockstar" song, I figured out years later. "Deadlines and commitments/What to leave in/What to leave out." I didn't understand that line at the time. Now I wonder how choosing a final track listing for an album is really worst than, "Makin' Thunderbirds" or the other Midwest labor jobs he sang about.

But too true about "Night Moves" and "nostalgia for an age yet to come" in so many Seger songs. And 1962 seemed like the distant past, when it was really only 15 years earlier. It would be like "hummin' a song from 1990" now.

mike a, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

'Night Moves' is a great album, probably his last. There was definite slippage on 'Stranger in Town,' which includes 'Old Time Rock and Roll,' WHICH I NEVER NEED TO HEAR AGAIN IN 99 LIFETIMES.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

But 'Night Moves' -- 'Rock and Roll Never Forgets,' 'Sunspot Baby' and 'Mary Lou'!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

but what about "hollywood nights" (a lovely guitar progression from which is currently looped in a country radio hit by somebody, but i haven't figured out who yet), "still the same," and "feel like a number," rickey? i agree *night moves* is better than *stranger in town,* but not *that* much better...the slippage is pretty slight!

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, you're right about that stuff. I like "Till It Shines," too. I can still remember the first time I heard "Still the Same," though it wasn't a dramatic moment or anything.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

But I do think that's where the cutoff comes. I still haven't found anything to like about 'Against the Wind.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

This far in the thread and no hate for "Like A Rock" yet?

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

>I still haven't found anything to like about 'Against the Wind.' <

'Fire Lake' isn't bad. (And 'Makin' Thunderbirds' on *the Distance*. though I haven't heard it in years, might well be better.) But either way, *Stranger in Town* is his last great album, not *Night Moves.*

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Huge, huge, huge fucking classic.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, "Makin' Thunderbirds" was all right. And that version of "Trying to Live My Life Without You" was OK, if basically unnecessary. But he did it to throw some coin its author's way after Glenn Frey ripped it off for "The Long Run," so that's cool.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Elvis t., there was some oblique "Like a Rock" hate, in the reference to truck commercials above.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

classic, obviously. And nobody's mentioned Turn the Page yet, which, although maybe corny, is likewise a supreme FM classic, and the best song ever about being a rocker on the road (maybe it's tied w/All the Way from Memphis, actually).

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
Somehow I always hated this song without paying much attention to it (like Alex in NYC I thought of it as corny proto-Mellencamp). But somehow I keep hearing it lately and it's got me, especially this verse:

We weren’t in love, oh no, far from it
We weren’t searchin’ for some pie in the sky summit
We were just young and restless and bored
Livin’ by the sword
And we’d steal away every chance we could
To the backroom, to the alley or the trusty woods
I used her, she used me
But neither one cared
We were gettin’ our share

The chorus still annoys me. I don't like the phrase "Night Moves" -- it just sounds dumb. But I think maybe I'm hitting the age when I start to really like mid 70s super-steady-beat medium-light rock.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

Summertime... Summertime

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

"Deadlines and commitments/What to leave in/What to leave out."

this is pretty much adult life summed up in a line.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I find Meat Loaf preferable.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

If you grew up in the Detroit area in the 60s/70s and listened to FM radio, you can't help having Seger's music practically encoded in yr DNA. Which makes it kind of easy to grow to hate much of it. But those albums up through Night Moves still mostly sound wonderfully wistful and saltily soulful--and, in the case of Ramblin Gamblin Man, surprisingly psychedelic and funky.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:31 (twenty years ago)

If you grew up in the Detroit area in the 60s/70s and listened to FM radio, you can't help having Seger's music practically encoded in yr DNA. Which makes it kind of easy to grow to hate much of it.

uh, quite the opposite actually. as one who fits that description .. it makes it easy to LOVE it. Because we already knew how great Bob's early stuff wuz. tho it is fun to laugh at Soofjam lovin pitchdorks who discover Bob's early stuff and make an about-face.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm not Pitchdork.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:38 (twenty years ago)

so good

yvette yreka (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:40 (twenty years ago)

ha .. wasn't talking about you Hurting! you are about the farthest thing from a pitchdork, considering the fact that you have pretty broad taste and actually have a firm grasp of african-american contributions to music. see you on the jazz threads, my friend!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:41 (twenty years ago)

haha, the "a" omitted from my last post rather undercut it.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:41 (twenty years ago)

my sister when she was really little used to hide in a cabinet and sing "Lock 'er up!" to the tune of "Like a Rock," then ubiquitous in Ford commercials.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

but thank you. flattered.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

uh, quite the opposite actually. as one who fits that description .. it makes it easy to LOVE it. Because we already knew how great Bob's early stuff wuz. tho it is fun to laugh at Soofjam lovin pitchdorks who discover Bob's early stuff and make an about-face.

Hmm... the scenario I describe also applies to a lot of Motown--some of which I still love, and a lot of which I can't stand anymore--or to which I've become numb--due to overexposure. And some Seger just hasn't aged that well ("Old Time Rock & Roll" I avoid for fear I will go on a killing spree if it comes within earshot). Anyway, YMMV, etc.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)

I actually also kind of like "Turn the Page." My friends have made fun of me for that.

Bob Seeger is the king of songs that I hear on the radio but don't know who they're by and think they're pretty good.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)

I like Seger; I'm always pleasently surprised by just how rockin' he was when it comes up. But for Night Moves, a bit by Drew and Mike (zoo crew morning show in Detroit) has me unable to hear the right lyrics. Whenever Bob says "Night Moves," I hear "Nice Boobs."

js (honestengine), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)

I have to say it's "deeply resonant" because when I was like 12 or 13, this song represented what I thought being a teenager was going to be like

it was deeply resonant for me for the opposite reason -- it represented what i wished being a teenager was going to be like but which i knew it could never be, not for me anyway. it was kind of like reading the letters to penthouse.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)

I used her, she used me
But neither one cared

that use of "one" always bothered me, and still does. it's a really awkward line.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that's awkward at all. So he's, like, objectively analyzing this earlier version of himself. man.

i just think, you know, Seger was a real good craftsman -- wudn't no genius, his inspirations were fairly obvious. but the songs are great. And his vocals are great. and there are tons of great little moments throughout his catalog .. from "k-k-k-k-katmadu" to the high-hats on "Hollywood Nights". And "Travellin Man"/"Beautiful Loser" from the live album is such an awesome performance. I just hate all the fucking hedged-bets when people bring him up. There are many great songs.

but you know, this year Prog is Not a Four Letter Word, five years from now, Mellencamp is Not a Ten letter Word...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 13 January 2006 06:05 (twenty years ago)

But Mellencamp really annoys the shit out of me. He sounds like he learned about being a teenager from a class he took or something.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 06:14 (twenty years ago)

Well, he can't very well sing about how fucking boring Indiana was all the time, can he?

(Were there any great punk/'70s bands from Indiana? Detroit and Ohio had their share, and Chicago obviously had a scene, but I can't think of a damn thing from Indiana outside of John Cougar.)

js (honestengine), Friday, 13 January 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

I like the nameless characters in "Night Moves" much more for not saying the corny, stilted shit that Jack and Diane say.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

Barely relevant, but I'm drunk: I had friends in San Diego who told me that sometimes as special promotional event they open up the San Diego Zoo at night so people can check out the nocturnal animals. They call these speicial events, appropriately enough, "Night Zoo". They had a friend who worked at the zoo on these events and as he'd toddle off to go to work he'd wistfully sing to them to the tune of Bob Seger's MOR classic "I'm workin' at the Night Zoo" . . . that is all . . .

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 13 January 2006 10:18 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000CQM4T2.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:17 (twenty years ago)

That's awesome.

http://www.pentaclerecords.net/covenstead/bob_seger_live_bullet.jpg

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 February 2006 03:22 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
It seems as if MBV lifted the idea for Loveless' cover from Live Bullet.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

There's something about this song which sucks mightily and gets on my nerves. I can't explain it.

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Sunday, 8 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

okay, so when we were all desperately hungover last week, my friends and i drove around listening to 'Night Moves' at full blast, and it kinda made me feel incredibly good.

but what is the song from 1962?

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Friday, 23 October 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

(i feel like i just became a little straighter by admitting that)

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Friday, 23 October 2009 02:50 (sixteen years ago)

Wondered about that song from '62 for a long time, too

"autumn closing in" is a great romantic line.

Mark, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

I really like this song, but I also can't hear it without laughing at it.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:19 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but it's that kind of laughter that is more laughing at the sentimentality because..well, it's kind of easy to identify with? it's like laughing at yourself for being a sentimental shit bag. i feel the same way when i hear Thunder Road, which i also know all the lyrics to.

anyway.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)

Who wants to wear those gypsy leathers????

akm, Friday, 23 October 2009 04:23 (sixteen years ago)

(Were there any great punk/'70s bands from Indiana? Detroit and Ohio had their share, and Chicago obviously had a scene, but I can't think of a damn thing from Indiana outside of John Cougar.)

don't get me started...

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 23 October 2009 04:26 (sixteen years ago)

Mr. Seger if you're nasty

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 April 2022 01:56 (four years ago)

nostalgia often has little to do with the quality of the experiences, and a lot to do with our own shifts in feeling about ourselves. This is actually a pretty feckin wise point, and one that I don't think was ever made in song before "Night Moves."

I'd say this is the point of "People Take Pictures of Each Other" by the Kinks, written eight years earlier.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 April 2022 02:25 (four years ago)

...and "Picture Book".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 April 2022 02:28 (four years ago)

The worst thing that happened to OTR&R was Risky Business.

― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 April 2022 00:23 (three hours ago) link

idk, if you've ever seen the Stone Mountain laser show...

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 18 April 2022 04:08 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Woikin on a night move

calstars, Saturday, 1 March 2025 20:06 (one year ago)

Hardly renowned

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Saturday, 1 March 2025 20:35 (one year ago)

Started hummin a song from nineteen sixty-two

at your swervice (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 March 2025 23:05 (one year ago)

It happens

calstars, Saturday, 1 March 2025 23:22 (one year ago)

Trusty woods

bbq, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 19:52 (one year ago)

order of preference:

1. back room
2. trusty woods
3. alley

henry s, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:05 (one year ago)

way up firm and high

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:09 (one year ago)

1. young
2 restless
3 bored
4 livin by the sword

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:15 (one year ago)

Pie-in-the-sky summit? Far from it.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:17 (one year ago)

i thought it was sonnet?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:40 (one year ago)

Woke last night to the sound of thunder

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:46 (one year ago)

one of the few songs I know that make me swear I can smell the beer-soaked wood of a dive bar when I hear it (meant as a high compliment)

henry s, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 20:51 (one year ago)

otm!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 March 2025 22:38 (one year ago)

I was recently thinking about this song, in conjunction with Eddie Money's "Take Me Home Tonight", and how they both implicitly refer to "Be My Baby"; and about the phenomenon of songs that are kinda low-key referencing an earlier song without mentioning it - as opposed to songs that are *musically" straight-up borrowing from an earlier work, the way the Beach Boys ("Don't Worry Baby") or the Beatles ("What You're Doing" offered their own "Be My Baby" homages.

(And of course the Ronettes' song was in fact from *1963*, shame on you, Bob!)

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 00:49 (one year ago)

About 25 or so years ago, when I was living somewhere else, one night we kept hearing the downstairs neighbor playing "Night Moves" on repeat. At some point we realized his back door was wide open, too, and the apartment was dark, so after some discussion with the other neighbors we called the police. They found him passed out with a bong, Seger still on repeat.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 01:07 (one year ago)

^^Alternate opening to You're Next

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 01:18 (one year ago)

There is a tagger in the south side of my town putting up “trusty woods” and it gives me so much joy

bbq, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 08:34 (one year ago)

One of my all time fave songs. JiC's neighbor - legend.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 March 2025 10:04 (one year ago)

this thread gives me so much joy.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 March 2025 10:58 (one year ago)

Never realized Josh at one time was neighbors with Matthew McCaughnahey.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 March 2025 13:18 (one year ago)


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