the killers - are they killer?

The Killers bigger than Marion?
BRMC 'bigger' than JMC? (for a while)

Both bands are not undeserving, but are still 'lite' versions of the originals (although I don't know 'marion' enough to say they weren't 'lite')

They even beat early Marion stuff in my book, though I'm glad I'm not the only one who spotted the connection.

Global nuwave poprock, local media habits, my mom, me, & u

Hovering around 20 in the UK album charts is a drab pop-punky nu-wave band from Las Vegas named the Killers. . Apparently I need to crawl out from beneath the rock I live under, bcz I know this only bcz my mom sent me (as in: an envelope with a stamp on it, how quaint) (also, I was hoping it was a check) a clipping from the Des Moines Register’s style section from early July about them.

I grew up with the guitar player, Dave, in a small Iowa town. I wasn’t friends with him, but I knew him. He was quiet, and big into Smashing Pumpkins. You’d never know it from his current band but he could TOTALLY SHRED, too, such a shame. I went off to college and the last I heard he was jobbing in a Christian grunge band out of Newton. And now there he is with Strokes hair, a sportcoat, and tennis bracelets. They grow up so fast!

The online article has of course been ecto-trapped in the Register’s pay vaults, which is too bad, cos besides the obligatory local-boy-make-good angle I’d like for you all to see the hint of the contempt that the Des Moines media holds for Pella, the town I’m from. It’s not wholly accurate to describe Pella as an insular, conservative, religious community of Dutch Protestants, cos Dave and I are from there and are not that, but it’s fair enough. Pella is tacky and touristy as well (Register "critic" Kyle Munson sagely noted “omg, so is Vegas, weird!”), known state-wide for riding a theme-park version of its 19th cent. Dutch immigrant history to the bank every year. So poor nascent rockstar Dave had to answer eye-rollers like whether he’s ever worn wooden shoes and what his favorite pastries are. Well DUH of course he did; in grade school marching in the Tulip Time parades is MANDATORY. And Dave diplomatically mentions something from both the town’s bakeries, same as everyone else would. Don’t you media people know anything? More to the point, do you think that by broadcasting your dislike for this odd, churchy, nasty little burg you’ll somehow make living in fucking Des Moines any better? Get over it! (cue you: “yes geoff get over it”)

Now, if any other publication on earth had thought to ask a musician on his/her preferences in wooden footwear or pastry it would be a sorta-funny dadaist jab (and megawierd coincidence in Dave’s case, since he’d actually have an answer). But for the Register it’s just pro-forma and sad. See, I could win a Pulitzer or go to jail for planting an unsolicited kiss on Barack Obama (both are in the works, mind), and the Register would be on the phone asking a “Pella boy” about the klompen and the pofertjes.

Anyway I listened to a few clips on the Killers’ website and they suck. Good luck Dave!

Marion being an influence on anybody hurts my brain. And I don't even mind Marion much.

now that's funny.

having always found morrissey and merritt highly overrated i am pleased to hear of their being implicated in this horrible, horrible alterna-fiasco. it's hard for me to believe some of the praise isn't people joking around. this is probably the worst shit i have ever heard in my life and i'm not kidding.
the way he says "potential" or whatever in that video is full-on fucking hilarious.

Oftentimes, I'm willing to forgive otherwise dreadful ticks in songs that make me tap my foot without thinking about it. Let go of your anger!

as another Dutch Protestant from the Southwest i'm afraid it simply will not be possible in this case. this is a transparent masquerade of a band, and though seeded in probably legitimate desperation, i will not personally be able get past the basic (and super-unsuccessful) ludicrousness of the approach.
i bet i like tons of stuff it will otherwise get lumped in with, but that always happens.
hey i also did happen to mention it's very, very funny... and meant it.

Yes, isn't that peculiar? I've got several examples of this sort of thing happening to myself, but can't explain why.

i have to write about these guys this weekend. they're okay. they get played a lot at work. they stike me as the manifestation of a cardinal music industry rule.

the first the Killers NME front cover

p.s. "somebody told me" reeks of suck.

on the More In The Monitor blog they pointed out that the guys don't move around much live. Disappointing, as I was hoping they did more Duran-style sashay-age or something.

Two years ago, I thought that KRMTX "Ice Hatchets" single was really good. I just put it on recently, though, and thought, "What's the point?" I realize that they have a "darker" aesthetic, but there's nothing musically present in KRMTX that sets them apart from, say, Franz Ferdinand. And Franz Ferdinand write better songs, play better, have a better sound, and have a singer that you can actually hear/understand. The thing is, I think, that some of youse think that the new crop of successful and popular nu wavers are dumbing something down. So, what, Franz Ferdinand are dumbing down the Chromatics? The Yeah Yeah Yeahs are dumbing down Glass Candy and the Shattered Theater? The Killers are dumbing down Gogogoairheart? Now, maybe youse guys aren't really into the Chromatics, Glass Candy and the Shattered Theater, and Gogogoairheart, but I'd guess that you don't feel so vehemently opposed to them as you do to the Killers and Frank Ferdinand.

My point is that THERE WAS NOTHING TO DUMB DOWN IN THAT MUSIC IN THE FIRST PLACE. There is no CONTENT in the music of those bands that is missing in bands like the Killers or Franz Ferdinand. In fact, a band like the Killers seem to be GOOFING on the lack of content in this genre with their ridiculous lyrics and the guy's ridiculous singing (which is what I was getting at with that "Believe Me, Natalie" thread).

Also: it's only "fucking Dawson's Creek music" because these bands have better production value.

PEACE-OUT!

T.

-- Tim Ellison (timejeanne...), January 10th, 2005.

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I simply can't believe that even indie critics would accept this sub teen movie crap as something good, and beyond good, as something cool!!!!!

Do people have any standards whatsoever?

“When I was writing these songs, I was thinking of things like Sherwood Anderson’s book Winesburg, Ohio or that book Pastures of Heaven [by John Steinbeck],” Flowers says, “where’s it’s all these short stories that take place in this one setting. For some reason, I had the audacity to try it myself. Once I realized they were going to take place here and they were going to be true stories, everything just really fell in our laps.”

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, August 3, 2021

dear god in heaven Flower Boy's thinking of narrative.

Just wait for his first full novel, And The Dude Saw The Sky

Enjoy some rock

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— Stereogum (@stereogum) August 13, 2021

i don't think flowers' new found focus on narrative really does anything at all for this album but it's solidly their second best behind the last, just for consistency & the strength of the arrangements

Wow at this album. This is basically the electric "Nebraska" Springsteen never brought to fruition, updated for the times. Drugs, withering small town alienation, losing your religion, etc. I have no idea who listens to the Killers, but I wonder what they'll make of this.

Me, I find it astounding and galvanizing that a band I'd been indifferent to for most of their career should release an album I've really liked two years in a row.

(Not saying this is nearly as good as "Nebraska," I should stress - that's a unique masterpiece of a one-off - but this album is some heavy stuff, at least to my ears, however on the nose so much of it is.)

it really seems that having producers who can help them to really flesh out their arrangements has made a huge difference

this album is awesome, i love "cody" so much

astonished that flowers' attempts to get into granular storytelling do not weigh this album down one bit (not that he's ditched the broad, bombastic thing, those eagles still have "glory-painted wings")

also think this is better than imploding the mirage :O

I'm not ready to deliver a judgment, but there are moments like "Terrible Thing" where the Nebraska tropes -- the echo, perfectly arranged harmonica -- try to deepen narratives that don't exist except as Springsteeisms.

Every predictable image is so damn perfectly paced.

Holy shit, yeah, this is fantastic. Even better than I'd hoped and definitely even better than Mirage. So many great moments - really digging "Cody", "In the Car Outside" and "Runaway Horses" most on first blush, but it's all pretty great.

the obvious springsteen songs i can easily lose as they do nothing more than springsteen did, the upbeat Triffids/Big Country stuff is great.

Triffids/Big Country stuff is great.

Which songs were these?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdeRkr6dLs

decent single

Enjoying this but boy, that's a blatant Erasure riff they drop in

gosh yeah.
given the bronski beat riff that brandon used for his solo debut,
and now this,
i think it's clear that he/the band just need to go the whole hog and make an 80s synth album to get it out of their system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JdPeMQoAU

seems like they are indeed making an 80s synth album. this one's a pretty good new order pastiche, just with heavy autotune for whatever reason

Do these guys do anything original?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH2P73cwZMk

lol they made a "born slippy .nuxx"

Too bad they don´t do ipod ads anymore, this would have been a no-brainer for that

Too bad they don´t do ipod ads anymore, this would have been a no-brainer for that

Heard a Christmas song while I was shopping that sounded like someone parodying very early Springsteen, and was curious enough to look it up. Of course it turns out to be the Killers, "A Great Big Sled."

xxxp lol fatboy slim made a brightside nuxx

https://old.reddit.com/r/glastonbury_festival/comments/1lptydy/fatboy_slim_born_slippybrightside_mix/

Lol, that's so painful as an acapella.

Actually really enjoyed Norman breaking down some of his old tracks on YouTube recently while someone else recreated them in Ableton.