Let's talk about Bill Withers.

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Blackstreet of course sampled 'Grandma's Hands' for 'No Diggity', but 'Ain't No Sunshine'??? Some chill out group did a pretty decenyt cover az year back or so... anyone remember THEIR name???

Jay K (Jay K), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

best version of Aint No Sunshine = Rahsaan Roland Kirk's

autovac (autovac), Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Bill Withers is classic beyond question for 'Lovely Day' and 'Lean on Me' alone.

And 'borrowing' records from your parents = k-classic.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Watts 103rd St Rhythm Band, whose own records I haven't heard (recommendations?)

i just picked up the record (25$) of Charles Wright and the 103rd st Rhythm Band's "Express Yourself" for a friend. it has the song made most famous by NWA on (duh) "Express Yourself." the album's cool but i don't think it's worth 25$. if it's available on used cd i'd look for it.

and i didn't realize they were the backing band on Still Bill. that's cool to know.

JasonD (JasonD), Saturday, 19 April 2003 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Just the Two of Us is so classic, I've heard a lot of great versions...listening to Rebirth Brass Band's right now in fact.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 19 April 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)

yes classic. will try and get those two recs you mention amateurist.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 20 April 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Still Bill is one of my favorites - he's just brilliant

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 20 April 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i think DMX covered "Ain't No Sunshine" for the sdtrk. to "Exit Wounds".

mosurock (mosurock), Sunday, 20 April 2003 22:26 (twenty-three years ago)

best version of Aint No Sunshine = Rahsaan Roland Kirk's

Wrong. Finest cover of "Ain't No Sunshine" is by Jack Natz's BLACKSNAKES.

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 20 April 2003 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

dude alex yr totally violating the nabisco dictum.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

*Shudders*

I just heard the sound of 20 ILx0rs being fired.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
how do you turn a duck into a soul singer?

put it in the microwave until its bill withers

del a robbo, Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
" I can't Write Left Handed" is blowing me away. i've practically had it on repeat for the last 3 days. WOW. (This is only slghtly ruined by the fact that Rick Astley stole the harmonies for his actually pretty good soul pastiche "cry for help"). The version i have seems to be a live version - is this the most commonly available version? anything more along these lines from his catalogue i should look out for? if you haven't heard this you really must. You will thank me, i assure you.

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Jill Scott did a mean version of "Use Me" when I saw her live in Manchester a couple of years back- and it was the opening tune. "Harlem" is a bit of a belter too, more of a foot-stompin'-soul type Bill - he did a bit of presenting for BBC Radio 2 last year on a series of soul retospective programmes.

neil tacus (tacit), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Twista & Anthony Hamilton made me want to buy lots of Bill Withers albums.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"I can't Write Left Handed" is blowing me away

yeah i was just going to bring this one up, too. i like the version on the live at carnegie hall album best. more/less relevant than ever?

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

what's Menagerie like then?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I always wanted to hear a version of "Use Me" sung by a woman... would change the implications of the song considerably, I think.

Also always loved "Who Is He (And What Is He To You?)," esp. Gladys Knight's spine-chilling version...

-- Douglas (il...), April 19th, 2003.

I don't know where it came from, but I've got a version of it by Fiona Apple that's pretty true to the original.

JC-L (JC-L), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm listening to ain't no sunshine right now. one of those songs that makes me want to put my head under a pillow.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, he's fine. "Lonely Town, Lonely Street" is amazing. "Another Day to Run" too. I had only remembered him from his hits and then went out and bought the reissue of "Still Bill." He makes it sound so effortless.

Joe Simon I like too--he recorded for Sound Stage 7 in Nashville. A bit more of a conventionally "good" singer but great.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

dude alex yr totally violating the nabisco dictum.

...and I'd do it again.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

live at carneige hall is a fantastic live album. even bill's jokes come off well.

splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf's the nabisco dictum?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill was a frequent guest on teevee variety shows back in the day, always relaxed and great. Saw him on one of those reruns of the Flip Wilson Show recently, doing "Lean On Me" with a live vocal over a pre-taped backing track. Whatayacallit when they do that -- strum-synch? Makes the drummer look ridiculous.

It's always a cool breeze to the earholes when "Soul Shadows" comes on during the drive-time Quiet Storm show.

briania (briania), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Woven Hand, side project of 16 Horsepower's singer David Eugene Edwards, recorded a great, haunting version of "Ain't No Sunshine". An even better version (or adaptation, named "Animalitos (aint no sunshine)") appears on his/their second album, Blush Music, the material of which he wrote for a ballet piece by the Ultima Vez dance co.

willem (willem), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed, the DEE version of 'Ain't No Sunshine' is superb. (And yes, the Blush Music version is better.)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the jackson 5 version of aint no sunshine.

splooge (thesplooge), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Live at the Carnegie Hall is his best record & one of my all time favourites. i love the between song banter on this one. If you didn't already know how great he was just from his studio work, listening to ...Carnegie Hall your heart swells to bursting with love for the man. When he says "alot of folks from all different nationalities and things come up to me and say... 'i dug my grandmother too'", as an intro to "Granda's hands", it brings a huge lump to my throat. the gently feminist intro to "let me in your life" is beautiful.

highlights, as vahid noted above, "I can't write left handed" - more relevant than ever now. the long held note on "she's go-o-o-o-o-o-one" in the track "hope she'll be happier" is probably even more astonishing than the one on "Lovely Day".

if you don't have this album you must buy it.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

for a man who claimed to be really shy as a youth, bill withers sure knew how to handle a crowd...those between-song raps on the CARNEGIE HALL album are as worthwhile as the songs themselves!

also seek out the soundtrack to SAVE THE CHILDREN (a 1973 concert movie of a Jesse Jackson/Operation PUSH rally from the year before)...bill starts out his portion of the album by saying something like: "ten years ago, if we saw THIS many black people in one place...even WE woulda been scared!" kinda makes up for the fact that he starts out "lean on me" wildly offkey

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 29 June 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Big interview in the last wax poetics, btw. bought it, haven't read it. Hey, Rev Hoodoo!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 29 June 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh damn i wish i had a copy of still bill with me right now.. i burned a copy without "stand by me," because it started suffering from the beggar's banquet::"sympathy for the devil" syndrome.. i think i prefer it to any marvin gaye or al green album (except for 'call me,' maybe). "who is he (and what is he to you)" is about the best track ever..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 29 June 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

whazzup stormy! withers is always good for a quip or two, even today, so youve got an incredible interview to look forward to, along with a mess of photos ive never seen before...

(you should also check out the DVD that comes with the recent reissue of JUST AS I AM...my man Bill is just going OFF in the modern-day interview segments!)

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 29 June 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking of JUST AS I AM (as I was up above)...that's another reason why Bill stands out from a typical soul singer of the time...the cover of that album was AN OUT-OF-FOCUS INSTAMATIC PHOTO OF BILL ON HIS LUNCH BREAK AT HIS DAY JOB INSTALLING AIRPLANE ENGINES! i mean, he's got his lunch pail in his hand and everything! it's not uncommon for a future superstar to hold on to his day job till the big bucks start rolling in, but Bill was practically FLAUNTING IT IN THE OPEN! "yeah, I still have my job at Boeing, so what?"

JUST AS I AM was actually reissued on Columbia in the eighties featuring an updated photo of a bearded Bill in a suit (my, how far we've come), but the new CD version (again on Columbia) restores the original day-job cover from '71!

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Thursday, 29 June 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason, that cover always reminded me of george mccrae's "rock your baby"

http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/14/5/8/355.jpg http://www.comicgenius.com/DiscoFever/disco_profiles/george_mccrae/images/rock.gif

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, 29 June 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Just downloaded 'Justments (74), and it's great. Wondering why no one is reissuing it.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Co-sign on JUSTMENTS. Totally underrated album. Although three of these songs ("The Same Love That Made Me Laugh," "Heartbreak Road," and the bitter-as-all-hell "You") were hit singles on the soul charts, none of them crossed over pop. This album didn't have the same momentum of his first two, but music-wise it still has the same high standards.

Then he changed labels and got more and more "quiet storm" as the years went on, and that's where I get off the train re: Withers. But damn if JUST AS I AM, STILL BILL, the live LP and JUSTMENTS weren't an incredible four-album run.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Monday, 30 October 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

There is also an amazing B side to be found on the 'You Got the Stuff' 12'', from er, sometime in the 70's...

It's a disco edit/extended mix that sounds like Bill Withers and Quincy Jones being chopped and blunted by Madlib and then fed through the Akufen machine for a futuristic cleaning.

Italo-disco/Cosmic DJs love this track - I have no idea who did this remix - but if it were 3600 minutes long it would still be too short.

greypejooze (Ryanssssss), Monday, 30 October 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

The way he held those long notes on "Lovely Day" was impressive.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

This thread caused me to buy Live At The Carnegie, which is great. Thank you thread.

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Bill Withers is great.
period.
his delivery is what gets me.

edde (edde), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I had a really good E moment to "Lovely day".

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

OMG just bought Carnegie Hall, and it really is beautiful. And as a rule I hate live albums... It's just so charming, and the band are so understated yet wildly funky. Grandma's Hands is genuinely affecting.

I just felt I wanted to share this.

Daniel Giraffe, Monday, 18 June 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

his drummer is teh shit! so subtle and funky. unbelievable. must get the carnegie hall.

much much love for horace andy's "ain't no sunshine."

andrew m., Monday, 18 June 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Live At Carnegie Hall is the greatest soul record there is. James Brown invented more, Otis Redding is the greater singer, Aretha Franklin could do a wider variety of things, Al Green was more magical. None came close to summing up a cultural moment the way Live At Carnegie Hall did. Bill Withers' world is the one we would all want to live in, and the fact that we don't is why soul died and was replaced by funk and then hip hop (which, of course, have their own virtues).

Kenny, Thursday, 19 July 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I just picked up a two-fer of his first couple, but I need to listen. Which is the story with a lot of music I own. : (

The Reverend, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Live At Carnegie Hall is the greatest soul record there is

^^^^^^

El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

hmmmmmm. I just have a studio effort.

curmudgeon, Friday, 12 October 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

No, you need that Carnegie Hall album. Seriously.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 October 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

^

The Reverend, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

^

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 12 October 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

on percussion, we got a lady

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:30 (six years ago)

very happy to learn Still Bill is on youtube

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2020 23:06 (six years ago)

Carmen McRae’s version of “Paint your pretty picture” is the only cover I know of that improves on Bill’s take

https://youtu.be/RknfFt06Uzs

Heez, Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:52 (six years ago)

Withers got a real royalty juice when S.O.U.L S.Y.S.T.E.M'S pop house cover on The Bodyguard soundtrack got some play

i legitimately love that record

r.i.p. to this great artist

dyl, Saturday, 4 April 2020 05:35 (six years ago)

xpost There's something else (very tangentially) cool about that Carmen McRae live album: it might be the first recorded appearance of Joey Baron on drums!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 April 2020 14:04 (six years ago)

Even chilly darkness has the brightest POLL: Bill Withers' STILL BILL

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:50 (six years ago)

i moved in to a cozy little trailer with someone i'm in love with a few months ago. we're both jobless since covid but we're lucky to have some savings so in between bouts of anxiety about income we've both slowed down a little bit - not much to do but care for each other.

anyway i played menagerie the morning i heard he'd died and we had coffee and listened to it. the second "lovely day" started i was giving j. meaningful glances and trying to keep from outright bawling. i hadn't actually listened to menagerie before so it was quite a treat -- even the two disco tracks are good. we got to "tender things" and i told j. that bill withers had died and i cried and j. told me that the song's spirit matched mine. a compliment i'll always remember.

i am a horse girl (map), Monday, 6 April 2020 02:37 (six years ago)

i wish i could really say what it is about bill withers that's so special. the familiarity with depression is a part of it. the ability to articulate so clearly what it is about sharing your life with another person that's so fulfilling is another part. and also a healthy, earth-bound sense of ones self in relation to another. a humility, a familiarity with limits. and just the crazy perfect songs, like they're natural fixtures in the world, like the world would be an absurd place by definition if they didn't exist.

i am a horse girl (map), Monday, 6 April 2020 02:51 (six years ago)

four weeks pass...

My brass band finally finished the tribute that we recorded after he passed, it took awhile to figure out recording in our separate homes and putting a video together:
https://www.facebook.com/mamadigdown/videos/3043741569039500/

All proceeds go to the New Orleans Brass Band Musicians Relief Fund:
https://digdown.bandcamp.com/track/just-the-two-of-us-2

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:43 (six years ago)

this is solid man, thanks!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:24 (six years ago)

thanks u!

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 19:09 (six years ago)

three years pass...

The second side of Justments is the best of chill withers

Heez, Sunday, 5 November 2023 20:38 (two years ago)

Such a fantastic record. Would like to play Railroad Man out somewhere people might dance to it.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:01 (two years ago)

i def would.

also 'justments is his best album.

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:25 (two years ago)

two years pass...

Via a post from Chris O'Leary: "the engineer Bill Halverson on the making of "Ain't No Sunshine," 1971 (from a Mix interview in 2012)."

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:vtqkh4q3vlh7rltd4tnaweh2/bafkreig3codqyfxdi2er2sqqri34kumkg2izjo4k7gtxp6pfipsxyx3yxe

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 March 2026 19:38 (two months ago)

awesome

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 29 March 2026 19:40 (two months ago)

been listening to 'still bill' the last week or two and goddamnit he is still bill

big boodith judith (m bison), Sunday, 29 March 2026 23:31 (two months ago)

this has recently become one of my favourite Bill jams. also, goddamn that Carnegie Hall LP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDIEHyqk0I4

an uncharacteristically irritated Mr. Rogers (stevie), Monday, 30 March 2026 10:19 (two months ago)

Don't know if it's the right place to post it but RIP James Gadson...you fucking ruled

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 3 April 2026 10:11 (two months ago)

I knew it was coming at some point, but I loved knowing he was still out there, damn. Best feeling 16th notes of all time.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 3 April 2026 15:11 (two months ago)

wow, what a feel that guy had.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 April 2026 19:30 (two months ago)

Just saw that. RIP:(

Galactic Poetaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 April 2026 19:50 (two months ago)

An awesome list of great songs Gadson played on

https://stereogum.com/2494641/legendary-session-drummer-james-gadson-dead-at-86/news

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 April 2026 20:21 (two months ago)

Wow, just a little over six years to the day Withers passed too.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 April 2026 20:46 (two months ago)


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